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Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Kind of. If you're an ardent F2P player that never ever ever pulls on Sugofests, then he's necessary as he's the best F2P Driven booster in the game. Thing is though, Driven is basically not a coherent class unless you've got the devils luck on the few pulls you do, or are already P2P to some extent to begin with. If you do pulls, then Caesar Clown is easily superior to Shiki as a Driven booster(2 turns vs. 1 turn of 1.75x to Driven units), making him replaceable. Shiki's orb manipulation aspect can be overlooked because Driven has a very large number of orb manipulators/matchers, like the Kid + Pica combo mentioned on this page.

I still figure he's worth having as one-of either way, though.

While I wouldn't say Shiki is necessary to have, he does serve different functions from Caeser and he's absolutely worth farming for Driven teams.

Shiki has a lower cooldown, which allows him to combo with maxed Legend Doffy for quicker runs when you only need one turn of burst. And having both orb manipulation and class boost in one character frees up utility slots on your team.

He also acts as a good STR slasher orb manipulator and self booster, which is kind of rare.

Thanks for the thoughts. Seems like he'll be used if I have him and skill him up, but if i don't, chances are I could make it work in some other way.
 

EMT0

Banned
Thanks for the thoughts. Seems like he'll be used if I have him and skill him up, but if i don't, chances are I could make it work in some other way.

Yep. One scenario that doesn't necessarily need skillups is a Fujitora team; my friend with Fuji has a new account that's about as old as mine and he plans to get one copy of Shiki and call it a day, his logic being that Fuji will be able to tank as long as it takes even at base cooldown(30).
 

RedBoot

Member
Quick note: I've seen a lot of guides that say Oars only does his 200k attack once, and that if you block it with SWS Zoro you can then safely go back to whatever infinite damage reduction loop you're using. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. He will continue using the 200k attack every time he gets a turn under 20%. So either make sure you can burst him down properly after getting him low enough.

(There might be a loop using SWS Zoro, Inazuma, GP Usopp, and Alvida that keeps you alive for a good 10ish turns after getting him below 20%, since you can survive his deathblow after using SWS or Inazuma, but you'd need everyone skill-maxed).
 

Majukun

Member
completed all the gates..luckily i have a reliable team for both ace and coby,i might end up maxing both..even though they say ace is not that useful
 

RedBoot

Member
For some reason, Log Brook was harder for me than Coby or Tashigi afterwards. Ended up cheesing him with a Double Garp plus PSY Marco team. You can clear a lot of stuff if you have like fifteen turns. :p

Trying to decide if I should get Ace or Beckman done today, only really have the stamina for one. That Buggy stage looks annoying.
 

Hana-Bi

Member
Man I really hate WB as a captain. Oars stage was terrible because I couldn't relaible clear stage 1 and when I did I enraged the giant only to get blown away from a powered up turtle...
 

Kyou

Member
For some reason, Log Brook was harder for me than Coby or Tashigi afterwards. Ended up cheesing him with a Double Garp plus PSY Marco team. You can clear a lot of stuff if you have like fifteen turns. :p

Trying to decide if I should get Ace or Beckman done today, only really have the stamina for one. That Buggy stage looks annoying.
I'm saving Ben for this weekend but Ace isn't very hard if you use a guide. Most bosses are just about out lasting bullshit

The Oars Jr fight might be one of my favorites in the game.
 

RedBoot

Member
LOL, absolutely forgot tonight was a sugo. I'm ahead of where I want to be on gems, so I did one pull. Mr. 5, as per usual. I'm almost positive around 4 of my last 10 pulls, spread over probably 4 sugos, have been Mr. 5. I don't think he's been boosted on any of them.

Managed to clear the Ace colos before the closing. Sengoku team seems fairly reliable for him (and I just realized I can use Log Nami over Noland, which should make it better), so I guess I'll farm Ace. After having to run G3 on Colo Kid, I think I've accepted that having a "100% reliable" team for Chaos Colo is going to be rare anyway. Not sure how useful Colo Ace will be in the long run, but I generally find a use for most damage reduction characters somewhere.
 

Shackzam

Member
Pulled a Bartolomeo. Not sure how to feel about it.

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Tidd

Member
I'm weak. TOO weak. But the red glowing tavern symbol is too strong for me.
So I did two multis.

1st multi: Pretty meh, Don Sai was the only new character.
2nd multi: First poster: RED!!!


yay, worst legend but awesome sub and I need to run raid Boa even more. (I believe I predicted this, right? Yes, I did.)
I don't think that I will max her today. I'm halfway done and one run just takes too much time. See you next time, Boa.
And 22323times after that because I will pull Legend Boa in a future sugo

Whatever. I did one more pull. Just a single one and got this:


BEST LEGEND IN THE GAME!!!!

Guess I have to farm Coby. :)
That's a great way to end my birthday. <3

Fun fact: I pulled the same types of legends as the two who are boosted....
 

MiTYH

Member
Pulled twice. Giolla (new) and...

LEGEND SHANKS!!!!!

A new legend yahoooo! I need to do research on how best to use him. Doesn't seem like the beeesssst but a legend is a legend and I'm stoked. Plus I have 10 books saved from my ocd farming so we will see how that goes next week


Edit: duh he's now my strongest psy sub for Inthawk teams!!!
 
I'm weak. TOO weak. But the red glowing tavern symbol is too strong for me.
So I did two multis.

1st multi: Pretty meh, Don Sai was the only new character.
2nd multi: First poster: RED!!!



yay, worst legend but awesome sub and I need to run raid Boa even more. (I believe I predicted this, right? Yes, I did.)


Whatever. I did one more pull. Just a single one and got this:



BEST LEGEND IN THE GAME!!!!

Guess I have to farm Coby. :)
That's a great way to end my birthday. <3

Fun fact: I pulled the same types of legends as the two who are boosted....
Congrats man, as said before not gonna pull using gem for Shiki and Testro
I have way too little Legend Marco so had to go with this team instead of my regular one, at least I have Eneru in abundance.
Pulled twice. Giolla (new) and...

LEGEND SHANKS!!!!!

A new legend yahoooo! I need to do research on how best to use him. Doesn't seem like the beeesssst but a legend is a legend and I'm stoked. Plus I have 10 books saved from my ocd farming so we will see how that goes next week


Edit: duh he's now my strongest psy sub for Inthawk teams!!!
Shank is awesome for Restraunt le crap farming, if you have a psy orb booster like impact Usopp, Aokiji, Zephyr, other INT raids and is one that I use regularly for certain FN to speed things up with Grand Testro and count Bulter recently lol.
 

Kyou

Member
you guys ever have those weird "Oh duh" moments in this game?

After using the same team for Shiki for so long I finally realized "Oh, I don't need Sugar, I can just use my second Enel special to finish him off.." So I replaced her with Boa and it's waaaaaay easier. The delay helps a ton with the third stage.
 

Adeptrain

Member
Congrats to MiTYH and Tidd for their shiny red posters!

Also, happy belated birthday to Tidd! Glad one piece gave you a gift!

Finally, anyone else skipping this sugo? I have zero spare gems to even do a single pull :/
 

MANUELF

Banned
Congrats to MiTYH and Tidd for their shiny red posters!

Also, happy belated birthday to Tidd! Glad one piece gave you a gift!

Finally, anyone else skipping this sugo? I have zero spare gems to even do a single pull :/
Is a Double Enel, Leopard Lucci, Thatch, GPU and Kaku able to beat Shiki on 60 stamina?
 
Is a Double Enel, Leopard Lucci, Thatch, GPU and Kaku able to beat Shiki on 60 stamina?
Probably not as you might not have enough damage to burst him down and assuming you're thinking of tanking couple of hits from him he'll probably wear your health down and Eneru special will lower your health with Shiki's attack pattern being this it'll likely not work:
Stage Five
Boss Type ATK HP Starting Cooldown Additional Effects
Shiki Str 7008 (1 turn) 4.65 Million 1 listed below:

Shiki's attack pattern/effects, first life:
Pre-emptive: Swaps one of your bottom two units with your captain
Turn 1: Attacks for Half of your health and swaps your captain with one of your middle two units
Turn 2: Attacks for 7008 and clears all debuffs, puts up an immunity shield for two turns
Turn 3: Attacks for 7008 and swaps captain for one of your middle two units
Turn 4: Attacks for 8192 and reduces the cooldown of all your units on the right side by 1 turn
Turn 5+: Repeats Turns 1-4

After you kill him, Shiki will then respawn and do the following:

Shiki's attack pattern/effect, second life:
Revives for 30 HP
Puts up tons of Defence, for 4 turns, making it extremely hard to do actual damage
Buff own attack to 21,024, for 4 turns

Ways to take him out after he revives, are,

Use Ark Maxim special
Use Sugar special
Use Raid Enel's special (does 20,000 fixed damage)
Tank a 21,000 hit and take him out in 2 turns with Combo hits
Use v1 Sanji's special
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceTC/comments/4pn23i/golden_lion_shiki_60_stamina_raid_guide/
See if you can find any inspiration/team builds from this thread
 

Kyou

Member
Is a Double Enel, Leopard Lucci, Thatch, GPU and Kaku able to beat Shiki on 60 stamina?

At a glance I... kinda doubt it. My team is Double Enel, Leopard Lucci, Legend Doffy, Raid Mihawk and Legend Boa and even all that kinda barely does enough damage.

Mihawk is a much better asset to bring in than GP Usopp. It'll make the first four stages a lot tougher but that HP cut is crucial
 
I'm weak. TOO weak. But the red glowing tavern symbol is too strong for me.
So I did two multis.

1st multi: Pretty meh, Don Sai was the only new character.
2nd multi: First poster: RED!!!



yay, worst legend but awesome sub and I need to run raid Boa even more. (I believe I predicted this, right? Yes, I did.)


Whatever. I did one more pull. Just a single one and got this:



BEST LEGEND IN THE GAME!!!!

Guess I have to farm Coby. :)
That's a great way to end my birthday. <3

Fun fact: I pulled the same types of legends as the two who are boosted....

You convinced me to do a multi-pull. I pulled a Sabo. Not the greatest legend but I'm okay with it. You cursed me with your bad juju that would make me pull a legend that requires farming a raid to socket.

Nice get with the Fuji though. I'll trade you!
 

MANUELF

Banned
I have no idea honestly. I'm completely skipping shiki. I got my one copy from the 40stam last time and I'm done with him :/

Probably not as you might not have enough damage to burst him down and assuming you're thinking of tanking couple of hits from him he'll probably wear your health down and Eneru special will lower your health with Shiki's attack pattern being this it'll likely not work:

See if you can find any inspiration/team builds from this thread

At a glance I... kinda doubt it. My team is Double Enel, Leopard Lucci, Legend Doffy, Raid Mihawk and Legend Boa and even all that kinda barely does enough damage.

Mihawk is a much better asset to bring in than GP Usopp. It'll make the first four stages a lot tougher but that HP cut is crucial
Yeah I cant since my units arent max level so I guess my copy will be enough

Edit: If I had either Leo or Gladius I could try him even underleveled but without them I dont see how
 

Kyou

Member
Congrats! I got Z and G done, but I need like 12 skill ups on Shiki. Trying to decide how many I want to grind this time since he's coming back during 2x skill up. I'm thinking... 30-ish should be good?
 
Outside of Legends, I think that Leo is my most wanted RR right now. However, I'm saving up for either the Anniversary or a really good Gold Only banner, so no pulls until then.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Congrats! I got Z and G done, but I need like 12 skill ups on Shiki. Trying to decide how many I want to grind this time since he's coming back during 2x skill up. I'm thinking... 30-ish should be good?

Thanks! The only reason I didn't wait was because I had 1 level left.

I'd say 30 is good since you already have some levels. It'll take the edge off of farming during the Special Up event.


EDIT: Happy birthday, Tidd!
 

Hana-Bi

Member
I'm weak. TOO weak. But the red glowing tavern symbol is too strong for me.
So I did two multis.

1st multi: Pretty meh, Don Sai was the only new character.
2nd multi: First poster: RED!!!



yay, worst legend but awesome sub and I need to run raid Boa even more. (I believe I predicted this, right? Yes, I did.)


Whatever. I did one more pull. Just a single one and got this:



BEST LEGEND IN THE GAME!!!!

Guess I have to farm Coby. :)
That's a great way to end my birthday. <3

Fun fact: I pulled the same types of legends as the two who are boosted....

Damn nice. And happy birthday Fuji is really the best legend and also my most wanted. Pulled also way more than I should and at least I got two new units (no legends). Finally SW Franky (perfect if I ever pull a SW Ace) and Abdullah and Jeet...
 

EMT0

Banned
You convinced me to do a multi-pull. I pulled a Sabo. Not the greatest legend but I'm okay with it. You cursed me with your bad juju that would make me pull a legend that requires farming a raid to socket.

Nice get with the Fuji though. I'll trade you!

Your being convinced convinced me to go and try my luck for either 3D2Y Sanji or SW Franky. I got tons of dupes, but Abdullah and Jeet and Don Sai were received. I am...neutral? Neutral on this. Would have been dope, but I'll take them as a consolation price.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Oh wow super evolutions announced for Japan

get ready for those 7 star characters

Huh. I wonder what the pre-reqs would be for evolutions like that. It might be a great way to buff certain Legends.

Doesn't Dokkan have an awakening mechanic? How does that work?
 

lucypirates

Unconfirmed Member
Got my account back. Much thanks to my fellow OPTC friend who took care of it the last few months.

I basically need to relearn how to play this game.

Also grats to the lucky pulls above!
 

Hana-Bi

Member
Puh, double Enel is really a great team if you mess up your run. My first Shiki run today: stalled until Sunny special is ready on stage 1, didn't care about what those dudes on stage 2 do so I just hit some guys in the back. Was despaired for 5 turns and then got binded for 5 turns... Luckily I could use my Sunny special to get the fuck out of this situation and could clear the rest of the stages without problem... Yeah, I should look in a guide once more before going blind in a raid like Shiki. :)
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Got my account back. Much thanks to my fellow OPTC friend who took care of it the last few months.

I basically need to relearn how to play this game.

Also grats to the lucky pulls above!

Welcome back! I remember you being very helpful when I first started. You made it back just in time. A lot of exciting things are happening, and some of them are disappearing soon.
 

Shackzam

Member
Fuck yeah I beat whitebeards forest and almost maxed out my moby dick, but I still have a curse on level 9 of ships taking forever for me.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Would love to pull at least once - but i need those gems, they might announce a Doffy or Kuma Raid soon and my no. 1 focus is to get them max skilled while expanding my box limit.

From now on everytime i have the urge to pull i just expand my box...so yeah i just expanded to 700 slots by using 10 Stones who likely would have resulted in Coby and Story Zoro pulls lol.
BEST LEGEND IN THE GAME!!!!
Happy Birthday man and congrats on those 2 Legend pulls...very nice !!!
Pulled twice. Giolla (new) and...

LEGEND SHANKS!!!!!
Congrats - Shanks is a beast, dont have him but teaming up with him is always fun...PSY orbs....everywhere and all the time xD
Yay! I only had 1 special level left, so I fed copies over 5.

That's two movie raidbosses down. All that's left is Tesoro, who will be around during the 2X Special Up Event.
Grats....im looking to farm one copy of him just for my box before he goes away. Will need to start looking for G3 teams or something i can run for the 40stam Difficulty.

What team did you use ?
Got my account back. Much thanks to my fellow OPTC friend who took care of it the last few months.

I basically need to relearn how to play this game.

Also grats to the lucky pulls above!

:eek:

Welcome Back....and shoot me an invite once you set again heh !!
 

bobohoro

Member
Did my single pull and got base SW Luffy. Not bad.
Shame he won't be that good until his SB comes out in...well, that might take some time.

But with him, SW Franky and Kumadori, I actually have all the basic pieces for a nice STR team.

Also did 60 stamina Shiki. Wasn't that bad, needed to gem once because I only got 1 blue orb in about 6 turns on Shiki. But yeah, won't be able to farm him, stage 1 could periodically mess me up with CDs and I have no way to guarantee the 3 blue orbs needed to burst Shiki down reliably. And runs would take a long time with base skill Enel.

Oh well, he'll be a nice STR slasher beatstick I guess. Might even use one of my three meats on him.

And happy birthday as well as congrats for the legend to everyone that falls into one or both of those categories.
 
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