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Legend of Zelda Mafia |OT| A Lynch to the Past

Sorian

Banned
Firm disagree. I meant both parts of that statement.

You're fine to imagine I just haven't voted yet then. I don't particularly care.

No, you have voted, a junky one but still a vote, you can pretend votes during day 1 don't matter but that is factually untrue.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
I don't think day one is worthless and I hate when people say that.

I am saying that it's worthless at this particular moment for me. I think day one requires more time and effort to have any pay out. I'll give this game the time needed tomorrow evening and Monday. I'm mainly checking in since people were already getting up in arms about inactivity from me in this game lol
 
I don't think day one is worthless and I hate when people say that.

I am saying that it's worthless at this particular moment for me. I think day one requires more time and effort to have any pay out. I'll give this game the time needed tomorrow evening and Monday. I'm mainly checking in since people were already getting up in arms about inactivity from me in this game lol

How dare you have a life outside of mafia.

lynch this man on principle.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
No, you have voted, a junky one but still a vote, you can pretend votes during day 1 don't matter but that is factually untrue.

Actually the value prescribed to a vote is inherently linked to its intent. Except if it contributes to majority, influences a wagon, or is the final vote of the day.

I say my vote on Cabot has no real meaning and that I don't intent to have a vote that's real for some time. Therefore that vote really doesn't matter.

But keep throwing factually incorrect about matters of opinion. It makes you fun to play against. Zzz
 

CCS

Banned
Day One is worth it, but mostly looking back to help judge later actions. At the moment, slightly hard to see the woods for the trees.
 

Sorian

Banned
Actually the value prescribed to a vote is inherently linked to its intent. Except if it contributes to majority, influences a wagon, or is the final vote of the day.

I say my vote on Cabot has no real meaning and that I don't intent to have a vote that's real for some time. Therefore that vote really doesn't matter.

But keep throwing factually incorrect about matters of opinion. It makes you fun to play against. Zzz

What does the bolded mean here?

I'm fine with it because I find both of your play styles overly centralizing for games (more so sorian) and haven't really had anything sticking out it me enough to override that thus far.

See above about final votes. I'll vote how I please until the end of day one which is all that matters when you get down to it for the first day.

If the bolded is just about the whatever cabot vote then sure but that seems to clearly say that day one votes don't matter except for the eod one. It's also just awkward in that it presumes that you do what you want for voting until eod and then you have to vote how someone else wants.
 

Sorian

Banned
How do you know I'm not on your side?

The sarcasm seemed to imply that the issue was that he was busy with a friend today and that was it, not really about sides, just more that I didn't want anyone pushing that faulty line from the get go because no one said it was the issue except Kawl. He had a prod vote or two, I'm aware of that but this all reeks of making an appearance for the sake of it, he's obviously telling the truth but I don't know why it would matter, he could have just waited instead of showing up to cast shade that he can't even justify.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
Yea I overstated my opinion as fact a bit there. Pot kettle black. I don't particularly find votes meaningful unless one of the three things I listed above is happening which is almost never the case until the final few hours of day one.
 

Sorian

Banned
Yea I overstated my opinion as fact a bit there. Pot kettle black. I don't particularly find votes meaningful unless one of the three things I listed above is happening which is almost never the case until the final few hours of day one.

I straight tried to bus a teammate two day phases in a row without ever creating a wagon so gonna call foul.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
I literally stated above that this is almost entirely just checking in lol. The issue was not having posted, which was a side effect of being busy. Yea it was two votes or whatever, but yes I wouldn't put it past the game to push that into man kawl is always active what the hell is he doing. And I don't particularly give a shit about the "issue" which your pushing. I prefer to get to play more mafia than just one day. So I'm coming in dropping a post with barebones shit reads, and then say those are strong enough for me to override my go to lynch day one which are people's who's play styles I find detrimental. This will probably change when I have actual time to play the game. Sue me.
 

acohrs

Member
Will you two just kiss already

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Sorian

Banned
But you're the strongest voice here rn...

And if I were to kill anyone else who could challenge me then it's an easy coast to victory. Someone already corrected Bronx but it's silly to assume that I'm town just because I'm loud and not slanking in the background.
 

acohrs

Member
And if I were to kill anyone else who could challenge me then it's an easy coast to victory. Someone already corrected Bronx but it's silly to assume that I'm town just because I'm loud and not slanking in the background.

But there have already been a few rumbles about how aggressive you're being scum. A case could probably be made for either side for you rn
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
And if I were to kill anyone else who could challenge me then it's an easy coast to victory. Someone already corrected Bronx but it's silly to assume that I'm town just because I'm loud and not slanking in the background.
Wait, so are you admitting you're scum or not?
 

Sorian

Banned
Wait, so are you admitting you're scum or not?

Seriously? To answer the question, it's completely within my wheelhouse, just like this could easily be my town game as well. The point was being so trusting over something that I can fake was an error.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Seriously? To answer the question, it's completely within my wheelhouse, just like this could easily be my town game as well. The point was being so trusting over something that I can fake was an error.
It's like my good pal Stone Cold Steve Buscemi once said, "DTA: Don't Trust Anyone".
 

Ty4on

Member
Hi
I was tired today, but might get something done later tonight. Might as well post some thoughs I've had:

Sophia started off a little weird, but her reasoning for her read of me was ok
Sorian is initially looking uncertain, townie
Franconp is a bit hard to get a read of, but seems kinda like Persona so far
Melonrabbit is pushy, neutral leaning town
AbsolutBro made a big post with lot's of nothing, scummy
Natiko is very different from what I remember of Persona, neutral
CzarTim started out strong, townie
Splinter slightly townie, attack on Sophia felt genuine
Acohrs reminds me of Pop, unsure what to make of that
Kyanrute I kinda like this observation:
Ty is posting way less than I imagined.

he must have a good role
But it's not that townie
Kawl_USC doesn't strike me either way so far
Nin1000 feels a little different
Bronx-Man mostly feels the same

The rest are pretty much null. CCS is, I dunno. Similar to Pop, but less townie?
 

CCS

Banned
Why would you like an observation that makes you skeptical? Is that to avoid looking defensive or just being sarcastic?

When there is a river in front you, sometimes you must ford it even if the current is strong.
 

Sophia

Member
I come back from playing Star Wars, and Sorian and Kawl have gotten into a lovers quarrel.

Huh.

Dunno what to make of that.
 

franconp

Member
Natiko is very different from what I remember of Persona, neutral

Why do you think Natiko is neutral? You say he seems very different from Persona (I also think he is being more aggressive) but there he was neutral. So there we have a contradiction.
 

Ty4on

Member
really, why?

Because it's true and he was the first to point it out. It makes it look like he's thinking about the game instead of just following the talking points.
Why do you think Natiko is neutral? You say he seems very different from Persona (I also think he is being more aggressive) but there he was neutral. So there we have a contradiction.

I don't think he's neutral, it's a neutral read IE neither town nor scum.
I don't really neutral read anyone (you don't count Ouro)
 

franconp

Member
Because it's true and he was the first to point it out. It makes it look like he's thinking about the game instead of just following the talking points.


I don't think he's neutral, it's a neutral read IE neither town nor scum.
I don't really neutral read anyone (you don't count Ouro)

Ok. It was just the use of the word. It can lead to confusion.
 

Natiko

Banned
I would hope I'm able to come across a bit different than my first game since I stuck my foot in my mouth right out of the gate in Persona.
 

Sophia

Member
Actually the value prescribed to a vote is inherently linked to its intent. Except if it contributes to majority, influences a wagon, or is the final vote of the day.

I say my vote on Cabot has no real meaning and that I don't intent to have a vote that's real for some time. Therefore that vote really doesn't matter.

But keep throwing factually incorrect about matters of opinion. It makes you fun to play against. Zzz

The biggest issue I have with this is, if you had no real meaning, I'm not sure why you felt obligated to have a vote out. Just muddles the vote count later. : \

Also, related, but does Sorian seem more aggressive then usual? Trying to get an idea of what's normal behavior for him and what isn't.

I don't keep up on weeaboo games, what was Persona like?

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I would hope I'm able to come across a bit different than my first game since I stuck my foot in my mouth right out of the gate in Persona.

You are definitely playing different, but I can't tell anything about your alignment from it, so...
 

Kawl_USC

Member
So that I could vote for Cabot? I mean that's the reward in itself good thing those prod votes and rng votes aren't muddying up the vote count.

And nah sorian is a normal amount of aggressive
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
The biggest issue I have with this is, if you had no real meaning, I'm not sure why you felt obligated to have a vote out. Just muddles the vote count later. : \

Also, related, but does Sorian seem more aggressive then usual? Trying to get an idea of what's normal behavior for him and what isn't.

Definitely aggressive but I've got no idea if this is normal for him. In fact, I think this is the first time we've actually played together.
 

Sophia

Member
So that I could vote for Cabot? I mean that's the reward in itself good thing those prod votes and rng votes aren't muddying up the vote count.

And nah sorian is a normal amount of aggressive

I just don't see the point of a prod vote when cabot was responding like 45 minutes before it. If you wanted to address him, just do it. Voting for him and directly contradicting what you just said in your own post was weird.

*shrugs*
 

Kawl_USC

Member
I just don't see the point of a prod vote when cabot was responding like 45 minutes before it. If you wanted to address him, just do it. Voting for him and directly contradicting what you just said in your own post was weird.

*shrugs*
No I was being sarcastic about your point of the vote record being muddied by my nonsense vote on Cabot while there have been plenty of prod and rng votes (less so on the rng). My vote on cabbie was not a prod, it was a personal satisfaction thing.
 
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