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[Pooya]

It's a great kids movie.

Personally, it's the only prequel movie that I liked. I'm not sure how to explain it, it's the only one that could create that sense of adventure for me. The others were literally all over the place, TPM follows your main group and it's just fun, I really like the party aspect, think like Fellowship of the Ring. That's one thing I like about Star Wars that 2 and 3 didn't have.

 

[Javaman]

The only part that bugged me was how Padme and Anakin never bothered to free his mom for like 8 years. I mean WTF. It would have been pocket change from the couch for Padme.

 

[D1renegade]

I really don't have a problem with The Phantom Menace outside of Jar Jar at times...

And it's nowhere near as damaging to the lore/characters of the OT as TFA is.

 

[Glass Shark]

It's the best overall movie in the PT, Duel of the Fates is good, and the podracing sequence is well done. That's pretty much the best I can say for the movie.

 

[Bishop89]

I really don't have a problem with The Phantom Menace outside of Jar Jar at times...

And it's nowhere near as damaging to the lore/characters of the OT as TFA is.

Yeh the only thing which is off about TPM is jar jar, and even then the older I get the less of a problem I have with him.

Hated him when I was in my teens, indifferent about him now.

 

[Jumeira]

I think it's valid to criticise the fight for looking overly choreographed and having no emotion behind it, thus making it boring. But I agree that'll that video is stupid and shouldn't be used as a valid critique.

There was plenty of emotion in Obi after seeing his master slain, same with Anakin vs Obi.

 

[Slaythe]

I like Attack of the Clones :/ .

I feel like the adventure in it is pretty cool and there isn't a lot of movies that do it as well. It might not excuse all its other flaws for most people but it does for me.

The only part that bugged me was how Padme and Anakin never bothered to free his mom for like 8 years. I mean WTF. It would have been pocket change from the couch for Padme.

She was freed and married.

Anakin was told not to have ties with her, Padme probably saw she was living a new life happily.

 

[RevenWolf]

Not all battles must be emotional struggles. I think it was cool to see how Jedi's normally countered threats

For Luke his battle was a battle against everything he's come to hate and blame.

It was Tuesday afternoon for Qui-Gon. Just Jedi business.

Both scenarios work for me in the cool scale.

I can't disagree hard enough for this. I have no issue with good fast choreography, but the fight in TPM was not a good fight. There was no sense of lethality, no stakes, battles are ALL about emotional struggles, they're about surviving, TPM didn't give off that feeling to me.

A good comparison I like is look at The Raid: Redemption final fight scene, it's also incredibly fast, but there's emotion in every blow, the fighters get tired, there's an eb and flow of momentum as each side is pushed to the limit.

I felt ROTS did a much better job ( way too long imo) but it at least felt more like a fight.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm really looking forward to the Backstroke of the West styled fandub of the other Prequel films. They will be greatly improved with new dialogue.

 

[RevenWolf]

I'm really looking forward to the Backstroke of the West styled fandub of the other Prequel films. They will be greatly improved with new dialogue.

I would legitimately buy a blu ray version of those haha.

 

[Not]

I always actually kind of enjoy it right until Jar Jar speaks for the first time.

"THEY MUST BE DEAD BY NOW. DESTROY WHAT'S LEFT OF THEM."

tho

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I watched it a bunch of times as a kid

I think this tends to be the common denominator among people who enjoyed the Prequels.

Do we have anyone here that was older than say...16 when the prequels came out that enjoyed the prequels?

I feel like that's a short list.

 

[Crossing Eden]

i hate when people post this fucking video.

guess what? fights in the original trilogy dont fare any better when slowed down (even more than they already are) and analyzed.

It's funny how much more lethal the animated fights look by comparison. Or the fight in TFA. The lightsaber fight in TFA was just fucking visceral and didn't feel anywhere near as choreographed as the other fights in the series.

 

[RevenWolf]

I always actually kind of enjoy it right until Jar Jar speaks for the first time.

"THEY MUST BE DEAD BY NOW. DESTROY WHAT'S LEFT OF THEM."

tho

Well I mean janitors do get off at 3, overtime pay is expensive!

 

[brandonh83]

I thought TFA met things somewhere in the middle, the fighting is fast like in the prequels but has a lot more weight to it. Pretty much perfect.

That fight was so damn good. You could feel that Abrams was like well I'm only doing one of these so gonna nail it.

Unfortunately where it was a remake of ANH we'd already seen this fight back in 77

 

[Bog]

I like Attack of the Clones :/

I'm with you, except I won't even :/ it. I'll own that shit. I watched it recently and liked it more than I did back in 02.

 

[brandonh83]

I'm with you, except I won't even :/ it. I'll own that shit. I watched it recently and liked it more than I did back in 02.

I think it's a lot better than TPM. I liked the story, the investigation subplot, and atmosphere more. It still had bad performances and writing like in TPM but if it makes sense I enjoyed the general "shell" of AOTC a lot more. Amidst the love story and rough dialogue I thought Anakin's journey was pretty good and even emotional; the stuff with his mom was very well done to me. That funeral scene was pretty heavy IMO.

Lucas is just good with Tatooine stuff, his shots and general atmosphere is so fantastic during that middle part of the film. AOTC has some rough lows but more highs to me than TPM.

 

[Count Dookkake]

I think this tends to be the common denominator among people who enjoyed the Prequels.

Do we have anyone here that was older than say...16 when the prequels came out that enjoyed the prequels?

I feel like that's a short list.

PT started when I was 23 and I think AotC is the best SW.

 

[brandonh83]

I was 16 when TPM came out. Skipped school to see it. Mom was pissed.

 

[n0razi]

I liked Darth Maul and Qui Gon... everything else was shit

 

[Adam429]

I liked it better than The New Hope Awakens.

 

[brandonh83]

I liked it better than The New Hope Awakens.

Then you are lost!

 

[dreamcastfan]

Let's try spinning, that's a good trick! Whoooaaaaa!

 

[pizzaparty]

I like Arby's, so I know how you feel OP.

 

[watership]

Prequels? It was all blue screen and CG!

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...e-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/

 

[airmangataosenai]

You're not alone OP. I find it thoroughly rewatchable in a way I doubt I will ever feel the same about Rogue One.

 

[Fj0823]

You're not alone OP. I find it thoroughly rewatchable in a way I doubt I will ever feel the same about Rogue One.

Hey, the last half of Rogue One is non stop goodness

The first half...yeah, kinda bland

It's funny how much more lethal the animated fights look by comparison. Or the fight in TFA. The lightsaber fight in TFA was just fucking visceral and didn't feel anywhere near as choreographed as the other fights in the series.

Now we're talking!. Animated Star Wars has been so good the last few years.

Some fights are just great

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Hey, the last half of Rogue One is non stop goodness

The first half...yeah, kinda bland

I'd rewatch TPM over Rogue One for the soundtrack alone.

And of course it lacks the feel of adventure. Rogue One is the Star Wars I thought I wanted but...

I will say that it was great to have actual space battles again.

 

[AdventureRacing]

I think this tends to be the common denominator among people who enjoyed the Prequels.

Do we have anyone here that was older than say...16 when the prequels came out that enjoyed the prequels?

I feel like that's a short list.

Can we also get a list of people in this thread who were older than 16 when the OT came out for a fair comparison.

 

[CloudyTuba]

I don't. I've found most people in denial or don't care enough like it because it's darker.

Just because you disagree that doesnt mean they're in denial or too apathetic to have a real opinion. That's a real shit attitude.

And you're letting your own opinion skew your perception of "majority." The majority do in fact consider 3 the best of the prequels. Plenty of folk disagree with that assessment but that is still the opinion you will most commonly find in almost every single star wars rating topic on the internet.
Almost every star wars topic, if long enough, devolves into a rating match anyway so all you have to do is go view any long SW OT on neogaf to see the results. Youll find more squabbling about whether 1 or 2 deserves last place than people trying to make an argument for first.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Can we also get a list of people in this thread who were older than 16 when the OT came out for a fair comparison.

I think that would be a good comparison.

I'm pretty confident that the overwhelming majority of people who liked and enjoy the prequels were either (a) children or (b) watching their first Star Wars film. That's not a slight; it's an observation. As kids, our expectations are different and generally we have nothing else to compare it to. It just is what it is and if it's fun as a kid it's good enough.

There are plenty of movies that I thought were amazing as a kid that were absolutely not. But they get to sit in the "nostalga" section of my memory because I liked them as a kid. I'm sure many of those movies would just get eye rolls from anyone older at the time.

For me those are movies like Who Framed Rodger Rabbit, The Rocketeer, Iron Eagle, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, the TMNT movies, The Jetsons movie, The Last Starfighter. Shit like that. None of those are good films, but I loved them as a child. For others, it's the Star Wars prequels and the Power Rangers. So I can very much empathize with them because it's the same sort of shit for a different age range of movie watchers despite them eternally being such trash I've buried their memories entirely as if they don't even exist.

 

[Bishop89]

I wouldn't necessarily say age has much to do with it.

I had watched the OT plenty of times as a kid prior to seeing TPM and other prequels and have enjoyed every single one.

I'm sure lots of other kids did too

 

[AdventureRacing]

I think that would be a good comparison.

I'm pretty confident that the overwhelming majority of people who liked and enjoy the prequels were either (a) children or (b) watching their first Star Wars film. That's not a slight; it's an observation. As kids, our expectations are different and generally we have nothing else to compare it to. It just is what it is and if it's fun as a kid it's good enough.

There are plenty of movies that I thought were amazing as a kid that were absolutely not. But they get to sit in the "nostalga" section of my memory because I liked them as a kid. I'm sure many of those movies would just get eye rolls from anyone older at the time.

For me those are movies like Who Framed Rodger Rabbit, The Rocketeer, Iron Eagle, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, the TMNT movies, The Jetsons movie, The Last Starfighter. Shit like that. None of those are good films, but I loved them as a child. For others, it's the Star Wars prequels and the Power Rangers. So I can very much empathize with them because it's the same sort of shit for a different age range of movie watchers despite them eternally being such trash I've buried their memories entirely as if they don't even exist.

I realise this is the case. The robin hood example is quite apt, i just watched it the other day and was shocked how poorly it had aged. I'm just not a huge fan of that distinction because the vast majority of posters on this forum (like 95% or more) would have been kids when watching the OT.

I also think it's hard to quantify nostalgia and when it applies. Does that mean that anyone who saw a movie before they were an adult is incapable of judging its quality objectively? I feel like it also just serves to stifle discussion. Basically if you sawamovie before you were an adult it's like your opinion is automatically disqualified.So long as you can explain why you like a certain thing should it really matter if you first saw it as a child or not?

For the record in this discussion i was 14 when the PM released. I wouldn't say i'm a huge fan but i do enjoy the prequels and in all honesty i think i enjoy them more as an adult than i did when i was younger.

 

[Redd]

I like Arby's, so I know how you feel OP.

No bro. Arby's market fresh sandwiches are legit good.

 

[Oersted]

Pod racing, Liam Neeson and Darth Maul make it very enjoyable. It's my favourite of the prequels and I think it's better than TFA too.

Pod racing is a pissbreak.

 

[kunonabi]

I wouldn't necessarily say age has much to do with it.

I had watched the OT plenty of times as a kid prior to seeing TPM and other prequels and have enjoyed every single one.

I'm sure lots of other kids did too

yeah, i was gigantic star wars nerd growing up. read all the books, technical manuals, watched anh and empire at least twice a week, loved the games, bought all kinds of merchandise, etc. so it wasnt like the prequels were my first exposure by any stretch.

 

[Timu]

I think it's a lot better than TPM. I liked the story, the investigation subplot, and atmosphere more. It still had bad performances and writing like in TPM but if it makes sense I enjoyed the general "shell" of AOTC a lot more. Amidst the love story and rough dialogue I thought Anakin's journey was pretty good and even emotional; the stuff with his mom was very well done to me. That funeral scene was pretty heavy IMO.

Lucas is just good with Tatooine stuff, his shots and general atmosphere is so fantastic during that middle part of the film. AOTC has some rough lows but more highs to me than TPM.

Attack of the Clones was boring besides some scenes here and there and then the finale, which was kinda rushed in a way. And on repeats the movie is hard to sit through.

 

[brandonh83]

Attack of the Clones was boring besides some scenes here and there and then the finale, which was kinda rushed in a way. And on repeats the movie is hard to sit through.

Eh I didn't find it boring, I'm a fan of the sorta slow and contemplative pace. Everything was more interesting to me than in TPM.

Though I know better than to directly argue. The prequels are very devisive, I see people preferring TPM to ROTS and I don't get it to the point where I'm like alright, subjectivity.

 

[Bishop89]

Honestly the only thing I hate about AOTC is that bit in the middle with Anakin / padme on naboo. Otherwise the whole rest of the movie is entertaining.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Palpatine put in work against 2 grade A enemies while looking like he didn't give a single shit the entire time.
Episode 3 really didn't show him off well in either fight despite how well he made out.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Honestly the only thing I hate about AOTC is that bit in the middle with Anakin / padme on naboo. Otherwise the whole rest of the movie is entertaining.

That's a big "bit". Don't forget the droid factory too. Hammiest shit ever.

 

[Dhruv_hanom]

Palpatine put in work against 2 grade A enemies while looking like he didn't give a single shit the entire time.
Episode 3 really didn't show him off well in either fight despite how well he made out.

Still kinda disappointed that they gave palpy lightsabers. He's so powerful, he should be above the use of conventional jedi/sith weapons, same goes for yoda

It's funny how much more lethal the animated fights look by comparison. Or the fight in TFA. The lightsaber fight in TFA was just fucking visceral and didn't feel anywhere near as choreographed as the other fights in the series.

I didn't enjoy the fight in TFA, especially Rey meditating mid saber lock. That really took me out of the fight. The fight overall felt for a lack of a better term "sloppy", which might be something they were going for since none of them were trained masters.

 

[PeskyToaster]

The prequels are okay to me but I can't shake the feeling of overwhelming disappointment because they botched the fall of the most iconic villain in film so badly. They could have and should have been so much better. Eventually I think someone could go back and do it right. I know that's like a cliche dork Star Wars fan thing to say but whatever, the story deserves to be told better. I guess I should add that the prequels botched a lot of lore as well in their attempt to show the backstory of every little OT character. People whine endlessly about fan service in TFA and Rogue One then jack off to originality in the PT while it has kid Boba Fett, his dad, Anakin building C3PO, two pretty laughable Yoda fights, young Jabba the Hutt, and Chewbacca fighting with Yoda on Kashyyk to name a few, Shit was much more egregious than Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazan showing up for half a second.

TFA is already way better than the prequels especially in terms of lightsaber fights. We really need to see the whole trilogy to judge though. TFAs execution on a story level is also worlds smarter. They establish a connection with familiar elements of the OT and then diverge from them. Like Kylo Ren and Vader are set up for the audiences to be like "oh they are the same" but by the end of the film they have made really different choices, setting themselves on different paths. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Eventually I think someone could go back and do it right. I know that's like a cliche dork Star Wars fan thing to say but whatever, the story deserves to be told better.

I'd take animated movies by Filoni that keep the basics but tweaks literally everything else.
So essentially the mass audience isn't getting messed with yet for the hardcore fans that care(either love or late) they can completely fix a good amount of technical problems

Kinda a fan edit I guess but it isn't butchering a movie to put it together like those are.

 

[Fj0823]

Filoni proves time and time again that he deserves a shot at a Star Wars movie.

The man just gets it, all of it.

You can point the episodes of Rebels he's heavily involved in, they're usually on another level.

Maybe he's only comfortable doing animation?

 

[Dhruv_hanom]

Filoni proves time and time again that he deserves a shot at a Star Wars movie.

The man just gets it, all of it.

You can point the episodes of Rebels he's heavily involved in, they're usually on another level.

My dream movie would be "501st: A Star Wars Story" directed by Filoni and starring Morrison.

I'd honestly want him to do a Darth Revan movie, or anything set in the old republic. Isn't he also a big fan of that era?

 

[PeskyToaster]

The problem I have with the Old Republic as currently depicted (in BioWare stuff) is that it's supposed to be a thousand years or something before the main timeline but all the tech is pretty much the same. Maybe they've peaked or something but I dunno, we've come a long way in a thousand years so what have the Star Wars guys been doing?

 

[Crossing Eden]

I didn't enjoy the fight in TFA, especially Rey meditating mid saber lock. That really took me out of the fight. The fight overall felt for a lack of a better term "sloppy", which might be something they were going for since none of them were trained masters.

Yea that's sort of the point. It's raw. Even after Rey starts to let the force guide her actions. In that first gif I posted you can see how it was sorta like she was fighting a wall since she was despite trying to get killing blows constantly being parried and pushed back while Kylo exhausts himself.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Maybe he's only comfortable doing animation?

He has said he'd love the chance at a movie some day.

Honestly if Star Wars ever has a live action tv series he should definitely be involved.

 

[Javaman]

I like Attack of the Clones :/ .

I feel like the adventure in it is pretty cool and there isn't a lot of movies that do it as well. It might not excuse all its other flaws for most people but it does for me.



She was freed and married.

Anakin was told not to have ties with her, Padme probably saw she was living a new life happily.

He didn't know that until he came back to talk to her in ep 2, many years after he left. He only found out about that by tracking down Watto. He should have saved her immediately at the end of the first film or before the 2nd movie started.