But apparently Platinum couldn't deliver what MS wanted because MS was setting intentionally impossible milestones to work around the contract
The exact same thing happened with Phantom Dust.
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But apparently Platinum couldn't deliver what MS wanted because MS was setting intentionally impossible milestones to work around the contract
The exact same thing happened with Phantom Dust.
ElBoxyBrown
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Are you talking about what happened to Human Head and Prey 2?
You are right, but at same time it put a bad reputation at PG to make big budget game.
abstract alien
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Not surprised by this, as the game didn't really look that composed honestly. Guess we will have to wait for the inevitable Switch exclusive from Platinum, but I'm ok with that. Maybe Sony can find a "repurposed" version of what Scalebound was aiming for with the team.
Especially when we all know nothing gets deleted from the internet I especially when you try to force it.
Especially when we all know nothing gets deleted from the internet I especially when you try to force it.
They probably thought they were getting Vanquish, and ended up with
Sorry but theres no sympathy here for that. I mean, if they wanted vanquish or something vanquish esque, they should have just said that to them as part of the publishing deal.
No? We don't have numbers. Sorry, we can't feed your senseless sales war machine.
Blackleg-sanji1
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You can't be serious. Are they really
Waldo Lydecker
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A giant enemy crab.
Why would you want to confuse people? The game is dead.
There is no reason to leave marketing materials up for a product that isn't going to be sold.
SomedayTheFire
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Platinum pay their employees from the money Microsoft put in. How is that low risk?
What I'm curious on is if stuff like the online co-op was in Platinum's initial pitch or something MS basically forced them to shoehorn in.
Could be a case where Platinum realized they couldn't deliver on their initial pitch, asked MS if they could scale things back a bit and MS refused to budge at all.
Could be a case where Platinum realized they couldn't deliver on their initial pitch, asked MS if they could scale things back a bit and MS refused to budge at all.
Is that why I was the first person to speak out about its cancellation publicly before both Kotaku and Eurogamer?
Ok I can name call based on their past history just fine.
And you are defending them because...
What's wrong with slow?
I don't think it looks ugly or boring. you're piloting a fucking dragon
RiccochetJ
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That gif comes from the E3 presentation that had quite a negative response from a decent number of people around here.
I should check to see if the people who were shitting on the presentation at the time are now completely outraged at the cancellation.
SomedayTheFire
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Lair was cool
Trying to carve their own niche because they don't feel like they can compete with Sony on the big SP games front?
I'm a bit sad as a long-time Xbox fan who's liked a lot of their SP stuff, but I can see this being overall fairly positive for the brand... if they manage to make it work. I don't know. This generation made me wonder if there is room for all of these platform holders competing against each other. I don't question that there is room for multiple platforms all filling different needs though. I'm just a bit sad that I seemingly won't be the target audience for them anymore... and I personally feel anxious about their probability of success because I don't necessarily think they've been that good in the MP space either for a while, but that could just be my lack of following that space.
I guess I may never get my dream Halo reinvention in the way God of War did.
Most of that demo was them shooting arrows slowly at one of the worst bosses Platinum have ever shown.
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Crazy that people are taking sides.
We have no idea what the fuck happened. We can only work with what we see, and if the argument is that the game isnt marketable, then that does seem like a fair point.
We have no idea what the fuck happened. We can only work with what we see, and if the argument is that the game isnt marketable, then that does seem like a fair point.
Its beside the point now but one of my issues was the game is that you appeared to be riding on a glorified helicopter rather than a dragon. Very mundane looking when riding a dragon should be an epic exhilarating experience.
Thats not true, Don left in 2013, Gears franchise was bought in 2014 and Coalition was setup.
This is a bullshit, MS contributed massively to what gaming is today especially online and console OS, and they continue to. They saved Titanfall from being cancelled earlier this gen and have done a whole lot of good, just look at BC - the implementation is a template for all others to follow and evidence to gamers that charging to stream games you own or pay a fee to unlock games you own is unacceptable. Put with the pitch fork down and wait for info to come through please.
They need room to breathe.
Look at how fabulous Bayonetta 2 was. That was Platinum totally off the leash.
For all the negative perceptions of Scalebound people had, we don't know how much of that was under MS's direction.
yeah I think that's the one. anyway point is that publishers do whatever they want to. considering ms track record it wouldn't surprise me if they changed milestones, requested changes to the game and so on.
"creative clashes" =/= impossible milestones (game had already been delayed by a year...)
And no, we don't know exactly what happened with Phantom Dust so no "exact same thing" nonsense.
And don't act like MS is some terrible beast. Moon Studios and StudioMDHR have been vocal about how MS has been good to them. Are they perfect? Hell no. There are two sides to every argument. Let's wait and hear the details first
I never said that ever. In fact, I was THE person who came out and said those leaked concept were fake.
tiredheadcrab
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Have you seen how many other projects they were developing while doing this game? Impossible milestones probably because they didnt have enough people working on the game. So yeah maybe because the studio couldnt handle its priorities well for a large title like Scalebound.
badcrumble
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It's not standard practice to do this and it's weird that you're pretending it's normal.
They've always been guns for hire. The risk here is PlatinumGalmes now ending up with a huge chunk of their people without a project, and in turn a lack of funds to employ these people due to the game's cancellation. Scalebound seems to have been a huge project for their standards. Under normal circumstances I would imagine they'd try to have a project lined up as development finishes up, which isn't nearly as likely now
For a studio like PG this could be really bad
jizzlobber
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Looks to me like this project was simply going on way to long, it's been in the pipeline for yolks and probably wasn't nearing completion... Their patience ran out? Can it to stop the bleeding?
Mass_Pincup
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The Coalition is just the new name of Black Tusk studio which was founded under Mattrick.
They had a game which got announced and later on canceled when MS bought the Gears franchise and ended it to them.
you mentioned some other dark "game industry news" coming this week...this about platinum too?
It was below Judgment on US and sold pretty bad on the UK, was one of the flops of the year in Spain and isn't even charting across France or many other countries.
I will say Gears of War 4 is a major failure compared to previous main entries.
Gears of War 4 will be lucky to sell LF what Gears 3 did first week.
https://www.google.pt/amp/s/www.vg2...-in-first-week/amp/?client=ms-android-htc-rev
SomedayTheFire
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Zipline studios was founded in 2010. It is now called The Coalition.
Blackleg-sanji1
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This isn't a normal thing at all buddy
they never announced any games
Seems strange to me too.
True. All I remember is CGI of an unannounced game that looked like a shooter. Then it quietly got cancelled for them to work on gears.
oneofthose
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Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
remember
I can't say i cared about Scalebound because i have way too many games to care about this year as it is on PS4 alone including Nier Automata by Platinum.
But the fact of the matter is that MS losing this is a blow to their first party library this year, and its a blow to Platinum's cred as well as their future prospects regarding what they are going to do with all of those developers working on the project.
Its practically a lose lose situation for both parties, and i can't see that as anything more than a very depressing situation.
But the fact of the matter is that MS losing this is a blow to their first party library this year, and its a blow to Platinum's cred as well as their future prospects regarding what they are going to do with all of those developers working on the project.
Its practically a lose lose situation for both parties, and i can't see that as anything more than a very depressing situation.
digoutyoursoul
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Why would they have the project greenlit and spend such a period in development only to do that?
esmith08734
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Microsoft is really banking on Halo, Gears and Forza, huh?
Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
It still hurts.
Yeah there was definitely a change in focus. Still surprised at how much they were counting on Kinect at launch though. It was all preceded by many months of Wii ceding the monthly sales lead to Xbox 360, Wii U not succeeding, and a drop in handheld software sales as the casual audience went to mobile.
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