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North American Nintendo Switch Lineup
- Thread starter Cheebo
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Better than the 19 month wait for Kart on Wii U...
jabberwocker
Banned
Well to be fair though thiS has been on vita for a couple years.. poor vita.
I mostly agree with you. I don't think you can apply the same standards to a console launching mid-gen though. I'd expect more from a mid-gen launch. Consoles don't launch in a vacuum.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
I really don't understand the 'But the PS4 launched with no games' argument.
If we're in a vacuum of simply comparing launch titles, then sure, it's relevant.
But in the greater scope of the market, and trying to get people to buy the new Nintendo console, you can't do analysis in a vacuum and expect the consumer to take it seriously. Yes, PS4 had a relatively low 1st part situation at launch. However, it also had a helluva lot of next-gen hype, and enough decent-to-good 3rd party support (arguably) to appeal to the mass consumer.
Outside of Zelda, who is the Switch targeting with its launch window titles?
Maybe VC stuff, but we've heard literally nothing about that....and given that Ninty's online infrastructure isn't going to be done until this fall....
Waiting 2+ months for a port of an old game with the new feature being a battle mode?
When having it right away would definitely provide a decently-sized bigger punch to the system launch?
I mean, sure it's better, but it's still not good.
If we're in a vacuum of simply comparing launch titles, then sure, it's relevant.
But in the greater scope of the market, and trying to get people to buy the new Nintendo console, you can't do analysis in a vacuum and expect the consumer to take it seriously. Yes, PS4 had a relatively low 1st part situation at launch. However, it also had a helluva lot of next-gen hype, and enough decent-to-good 3rd party support (arguably) to appeal to the mass consumer.
Outside of Zelda, who is the Switch targeting with its launch window titles?
Maybe VC stuff, but we've heard literally nothing about that....and given that Ninty's online infrastructure isn't going to be done until this fall....
Waiting 2+ months for a port of an old game with the new feature being a battle mode?
When having it right away would definitely provide a decently-sized bigger punch to the system launch?
I mean, sure it's better, but it's still not good.
IDontBeatGames
Member
This is what I don't get it. I'm pretty sure if Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was a launch title along side
Zelda/Super Bomberman R/Arms/Snipperclips/1-2 Switch and supposedly Disgaea 5 (which I don't know if that's confirmed yet), it wouldn't be THAT bad.
[EDIT] It makes no sense how a 2 year port can't be a Day 1 game. Skyrim I get considering how much has to be downgraded for it to run smoothly etc, but like Mario Kart? c'mon man.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
You really think this thing can run those games when it's running Zelda, a Wii U up port at 900p 30fps? I have some bad news for you...
I thought the PS4 launch day was fantastic. I was playing those games for months.
AC: Black Flag was a GOTY contender (came 4th for me).
Resogun was the indie game of the year and free with PS+, which basically justified the cost of the service for a year from day 1.
Battlefield 4 was fantastic, as the new console allowed for 64 player online at the same time, something I hadn't experienced before.
Fifa 14 was a very good game, and the leap in visual fidelity was certainly noticeable and worthwhile.
Flower was a port, but a port of a great little game.
Killzone Shadow Fall was a graphical showcase with great multiplayer (and a shockingly poor single play campaign, sure.)
That's 6 games I enjoyed, right there on launch day. I got hundreds and hundreds of hours out of those games. And many of them justified the purchase of new tech with new, better visuals and features (like the aforementioned 64 player mode).
Switch has Zelda, which I can play on Wii U. Therefore it has nothing exclusive of interest for me. Also, it doesn't have that 'Wow! New graphical standard!' sensation to carry mediocre games like most new consoles do. How anyone can compare the two launches is beyond me.
AC: Black Flag was a GOTY contender (came 4th for me).
Resogun was the indie game of the year and free with PS+, which basically justified the cost of the service for a year from day 1.
Battlefield 4 was fantastic, as the new console allowed for 64 player online at the same time, something I hadn't experienced before.
Fifa 14 was a very good game, and the leap in visual fidelity was certainly noticeable and worthwhile.
Flower was a port, but a port of a great little game.
Killzone Shadow Fall was a graphical showcase with great multiplayer (and a shockingly poor single play campaign, sure.)
That's 6 games I enjoyed, right there on launch day. I got hundreds and hundreds of hours out of those games. And many of them justified the purchase of new tech with new, better visuals and features (like the aforementioned 64 player mode).
Switch has Zelda, which I can play on Wii U. Therefore it has nothing exclusive of interest for me. Also, it doesn't have that 'Wow! New graphical standard!' sensation to carry mediocre games like most new consoles do. How anyone can compare the two launches is beyond me.
I don't think sony "courts" with devs, they're very similar to Nintendo in that regards. Sony ahd the exact same thing happening to Switch with Vita. Sony did all they could but third party refused to make games for the system. Why? Handhelds are toys. This is the opinion of most of the western third parties. Sony tried to change their minds by making a badass FPS for the system but it failed to change the minds.
Do you really think Sony acted differently for their two consoles? I don't think so, Sony isn't a company that enjoys losing money. Handhelds are cursed. There was nothing they could do about Vita. DS sold more than 150 million units and barely got western support while overflooding with Japanese games. But now we're living in an age where only things that matter are FPSs, CRPGs and sandbox game. If you don't have them, you're bound to fail.
Didn't we get Modern Warfare games on Wii? You could do wonders with downporting, as long as someone paying for it.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Factually incorrect. Here is Vita (surprisingly strong) launch lineup. Count the Day-1 third party games:
Vita had STRONG 3rd party support at launch, but then that all ended, when the Vita sold like an overpriced turd, and eventually 3rd parties fled. Sony courted them just like PS4, and all its past systems, because they understand their importance. The sales of Vita just couldn't justify continued support. The premise of your argument is simply wrong.
As for the Modern Warfare port, wasn't that several years into the Wii selling crazy well, which made 3rd parties want to put in extra work to make the port function on worse hardware? That too, led to disappointing returns, so 3rd parties stopped putting in extra work.
The ps4 had plenty of games over 1.5 years, just most of them the best versions of large multi platform games many of them system sellers for buyers looking to transition to next gen. The switch does not have the third party support in its 1st year to even come close to the ps4.
Straight Edge
Member
Does C stand for console?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
I wonder what the hell everyone was playing then, because I could have sworn there were well over 100 games on the ps4 within the first year alone.
God damn, folks. Take your blinders off. We are looking at a console with literally less than 25 games announced for its entire first year, and less than ten in the launch window. That's fucking abysmal.
Crazy Diamond
Member
What the Breath of the Wild trailer taught me was that having Zelda can cover up a lot of mistakes. The overall lineup actually looks solid though. Shin Megami Tensei, Xenoblade and Fire Emblem all speak for themselves. No matter the capacity, whether they be spinoff, mainline, or something else entirely, when you see those names, you can expect a good outing from them. The new game from the Bravely Default developers really stands out as well. I'm in for Zelda day one, and think we'll see more of the rumored games like Smash Bros. and the Mario RPG start to show up around E3. Even if not though, I'm still more than happy with the games they showed off last night. The games, the most important part of a system, were there. And the price is right for me, just what I expected. The only thing they really have to do for me at this point is find a way, even if that means by way of a miracle, to convince me that I should pay for their online service.
Clearly and what I don't understand is what the fuck else have they been doing? How do you go from having dedicated console and dedicated handheld teams transferring to one platform and still not have your shit together with releases especially since they haven't been doing much else for a while now? It's like they just gave up.
Living the Dream
Member
The scary thing is, they announced that they delayed the system to have more games at launch.
I guess their original plan was to release it last holiday season with bomber man and 1 2 switch as the system sellers......It more so sounds like they delayed the launch so they could have A game at launch.
As much as I want it now, I don't see why they don't at least wait until April so they could have Mario Kart with it. They don't even have a strong multiplayer title at launch with a system that's controller can break in half.
If they really are going full force on combining their console and handheld markets though, then I just hope this gets as strong as their handhelds do. I remember the 3DS's launch being oretty awful but look at it's library now. Hell look at any of their handheld's library.
If they really are going full force on combining their console and handheld markets though, then I just hope this gets as strong as their handhelds do. I remember the 3DS's launch being oretty awful but look at it's library now. Hell look at any of their handheld's library.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
Sonicmania, shovel Knight's new campaign, fast racer neo sequel close to launch apparently. I think switch year one will be fine. By april, it'll be fine games wise.
moltonasty
Member
I thought i read somewhere that zelda would be 1080p on switch by launch.
moltonasty
Member
Yeah this is truly baffling
Looking at what Nintendo have to offer so far, I'm not expecting much more than 2 new games at e3 - likely retros title and pikmin 4 (Mario will be their big title)
I honestly hope they announce things like Kid Icarus and Luigis Mansion 2 Remaster to just put something on the calendar even if it's just more ports.
I honestly hope they announce things like Kid Icarus and Luigis Mansion 2 Remaster to just put something on the calendar even if it's just more ports.
DangerMouse
Member
My guess is that many of those devs are probably about to hit the HD wall.
Yeah, that's a ridiculous price for that game.
I'm really surprised they didn't trot out some of the expected indie/Kickstarter stuff like Stardew Valley, Axiom Verge, Bloodstained, Yooka-Laylee, etc.
It wouldn't make much of a difference since I can get most of that on my PS4 right now, but it would've filled out their lineup.
It wouldn't make much of a difference since I can get most of that on my PS4 right now, but it would've filled out their lineup.
ForsakenLotus
Member
I feel so childish but every time I see Splatoon 2 it looks like a penis.
Lady Siara
Member
Looks like Nintendo is targeting the Vita audience now. Interesting choice.
mullet2000
Member
So, Puyo Puyo is or isn't a launch game? Confused here.
ioriyagami
Member
Hey Nintendo:
If Wii Sports would not have been included with every Wii, both Wii Sports and the Wii would not have been so popular.
Include 1-2-Switch with every Switch or prepare to fail. You need people to play that game in order for it to become viral, and very few people are going to buy it because...well, who would buy that?
If Wii Sports would not have been included with every Wii, both Wii Sports and the Wii would not have been so popular.
Include 1-2-Switch with every Switch or prepare to fail. You need people to play that game in order for it to become viral, and very few people are going to buy it because...well, who would buy that?
ForsakenLotus
Member
I know launch lineups are tough, but Nintendo delayed the Switch so it wouldn't have droughts...it seems like they should have delayed it until the summer because those early months look mighty lean.
wild wild rice
Member
If launch day had one strong title besides Zelda, it wouldn't look so rough.
But really, by the end of the year there are 4-5 games that I really want to play. About the same as PS4. Would it be nice to have more? Sure, but I'm not getting bent out of shape over it like I initially was.
I just really hope some of those rumors, particularly BG&E2, are true.
But really, by the end of the year there are 4-5 games that I really want to play. About the same as PS4. Would it be nice to have more? Sure, but I'm not getting bent out of shape over it like I initially was.
I just really hope some of those rumors, particularly BG&E2, are true.
I bet your point about the investor part is true in march Nintendo's fiscal year ends i bet they want a bit of launch profit to crack the revenue up a bit or make the loss a little bit less.
I bet during holiday they will do a price cut and pack Zelda and other games in.
And yeah i regret getting ps4 at launch should have got it when bloodborne launched would have saved me a few bucks anyway i love my ps4 now got a bunch of fantastic games on it.
Damn...
And at least 3 of those PS4 games are F2P.
Yea....the Switch launch line up looks kinda bad.
I loved getting a ps4 at launch, it was right before the Canadian dollar tanked and everything went up lol.
Agent_Carnage
Member
I think the WII U launch game were better only by a tad as Zelda helps Switch a bit but that isnt exclusive to Switch.
Here is the entire Launch Day of WII U Ill note which ones I bought.
Assassin's Creed III
Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition ( Pretty fun port I enjoyed it)
Ben 10: Omniverse
Call of Duty: Black Ops II ( It was COD Nuff said)
Chasing Aurora
Darksiders II
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
ESPN Sports Connection
FIFA Soccer 13
Funky Barn
Game Party Champions
Just Dance 4
Little Inferno
Madden NFL 13
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition ( Good port of a meh game)
Mighty Switch Force! Hyper Drive Edition
Nano Assault Neo
NBA 2K13
New Super Mario Bros. U (Great Mario Game)
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Rented it not bad)
Nintendo Land
Rabbids Land
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Sing Party
Skylanders: Giants
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (Great Kart Racer in absences of Mario Kart)
Tank! Tank! Tank!
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition ( Hell Yea)
Transformers: Prime The Game
Trine 2: Director's Cut
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
Wipeout 3
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
ZombiU (Meh Interesting concept but bland game)
Much better line up as it game games of vast genres.
Here is the entire Launch Day of WII U Ill note which ones I bought.
Assassin's Creed III
Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition ( Pretty fun port I enjoyed it)
Ben 10: Omniverse
Call of Duty: Black Ops II ( It was COD Nuff said)
Chasing Aurora
Darksiders II
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
ESPN Sports Connection
FIFA Soccer 13
Funky Barn
Game Party Champions
Just Dance 4
Little Inferno
Madden NFL 13
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition ( Good port of a meh game)
Mighty Switch Force! Hyper Drive Edition
Nano Assault Neo
NBA 2K13
New Super Mario Bros. U (Great Mario Game)
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Rented it not bad)
Nintendo Land
Rabbids Land
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Sing Party
Skylanders: Giants
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (Great Kart Racer in absences of Mario Kart)
Tank! Tank! Tank!
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition ( Hell Yea)
Transformers: Prime The Game
Trine 2: Director's Cut
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
Wipeout 3
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
ZombiU (Meh Interesting concept but bland game)
Much better line up as it game games of vast genres.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I want to go digital only but I'm skeptical.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
What the fk did I just read? It's amazing that people still have this mindset even though PS4 had plenty of games in its first year.
Regardless, I don't understand why Nintendo has to release Switch in March though. Why not wait until the Holidays and bundle it with Mario, Zelda, Splatoon 2, MK8 Deluxe? I bet it would sell a bunch.
Lionel Richie
Member
What the PS4 launched with is completely irrelevant outside of list warz. Nintendo is coming from a failed console and they are trying a huge gamble and third party devs are not going to risk shit without seeing first if it's a hit. So yeah, it's going to be mostly Nintendo games for a while and I'm not sure how anyone expected otherwise. Perhaps more importantly in this comparison considering this, all of the PS4 exclusive titles it launched with sucked ass except Resogun. At least Nintendo has Zelda.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
The point was to show a poster who claimed the other consoles had no games similar to the switch how wrong he is.
Also, why are you focused on exclusives, which Zelda is not? The switch has very few games that you can play on it, full stop. There is no good reason to single out exclusives when discussing launch titles unless your goal is to try and make the Switch look slightly less like the absolute dumpster fire it is.
Scratch that. Dumpster fires are actually more interesting than the launch lineup of the Switch.
Classic_Gs
Member
Man that is a THIN first year. Debating whether to keep my Switch preorder.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
It's not big 3rd parties I am scratching my head over.
It's where are all of the indie games? In theory even at its power level it's modern architecture should mean it easily runs a lot of the common engines.
So why not try and get more indies on board to help fill the gap?
Why not be like hey we talked to the Stardew Valley guys and helped them get it running on the Switch. You know or Darkest Dungeon, Enter the Gungan, Hyper Light Drifter ect ect...
It's where are all of the indie games? In theory even at its power level it's modern architecture should mean it easily runs a lot of the common engines.
So why not try and get more indies on board to help fill the gap?
Why not be like hey we talked to the Stardew Valley guys and helped them get it running on the Switch. You know or Darkest Dungeon, Enter the Gungan, Hyper Light Drifter ect ect...
Lionel Richie
Member
Because I was talking about how wary third party devs are going to be before (if they ever do) they jump on a new Nintendo console after the Wii U happened. I'm focusing on exclusives for that reason, because unless you have way wrong expectations about this console then you know that for the time being exclusives are pretty much what you're getting for a start. If it breaks well, you're going to see bigger third party support later.
It's about expectation here really. What did you expect? Every publisher ever racing to put their games on the Switch? Or quality (IMO) Nintendo games for now with more to come at E3?