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diaspora

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I agree, but I guess that's where BioWare was trying to pander to hot babe love interest. No going back now, even if the fandom proved they're very comfortable wanting to bang more unusual alien designs.

Turians remain my favourite design in the series. There's a brilliant sensibility to their aesthetic; it's interesting, believable, and animates in a way that gives them a range of expression that aren't just a cheap copy of humans.

Vetra romance-able pls
 

DevilDog

Member
Asari are fine in Mass Effect. Sci fi is niche as it is, I can tolerate some pandering to lure in some more people.

As someone wise once said ''came for the boobs, stayed for the story''
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Man, ME2 character design was amazing..
And then, Vega.

Real talk; I have a soft spot for Vega. I rolled my eyes hard during pre-release media as he seemed like such obvious focus tested pandering to the bro crowd, but throughout the game I found him pretty well characterized. His personality isn't particularly obnoxious, he has a decent backstory with legitimate reason to be tense with Shepard to begin with, and he offers a more grounded, sobering perspective into Alliance military. Something that Ashley and Kaiden don't really provide.

A bit boring maybe. And definitely not particularly memorable in design. But in all honesty I found him totally inoffensive and welcome in the third game.

Vetra romance-able pls

BioWare cruelty; she's only into Krogan.
 

Sou Da

Member
Real talk; I have a soft spot for Vega. I rolled my eyes hard during pre-release media as he seemed like such obvious focus tested pandering to the bro crowd, but throughout the game I found him pretty well characterized. His personality isn't particularly obnoxious, he has a decent backstory with legitimate reason to be tense with Shepard to begin with, and he offers a more grounded, sobering perspective into Alliance military. Something that Ashley and Kaiden don't really provide.

A bit boring maybe. And definitely not particularly memorable in design. But in all honesty I found him totally inoffensive and welcome in the third game.

Agreed. Though I do find him memorable in how HUGE he looked in armor.
 

Big Nikus

Member
Real talk; I have a soft spot for Vega. I rolled my eyes hard during pre-release media as he seemed like such obvious focus tested pandering to the bro crowd, but throughout the game I found him pretty well characterized. His personality isn't particularly obnoxious, he has a decent backstory with legitimate reason to be tense with Shepard to begin with, and he offers a more grounded, sobering perspective into Alliance military. Something that Ashley and Kaiden don't really provide.

A bit boring maybe. And definitely not particularly memorable in design. But in all honesty I found him totally inoffensive and welcome in the third game.

I'm gonna play ME3 in english for the first time so maybe I'll like him more. His french dub was terrible so that may have played a part in my appreciation of his character (otherwise Mass Effect had one of the best dub ever, and I usually hate french dubs...).
Design wise I thought he was really out of place though, like he's been pulled from another game where ultra buff is the norm. He's the only human who's the size of a Krogan, it's kinda jarring.

Also, I watched the anime the other day, Paragon Lost, starring Vega as the main character. Well he was completely different from the game. Different attitude, different personnality. If BioWare continues with cross media stuff, I hope they'll manage it better. The Karpyshyn books were the only good stuff outside of the games (and still, I think Karpyshyn is way too gory in his descriptions, there are some scenes that kids should absolutely not read, wtf Drew).

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Was Vega's story in Paragon Lost?
Yeah. There are some good ideas near the end but damn it was boring. Marine action stuff for an hour and a half, with terrible animation and some bad voice acting.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Agreed. Though I do find him memorable in how HUGE he looked in armor.

True that.

I just need to be a Krogan in the bedroom, baby.

Asari on the streets, Krogan in the sheets.

Was Vega's story in Paragon Lost?

Yep, and he does mention it to Shepard during their goofily animated fistcuffs after first arriving on the Normandy. Long story short, during the events of Mass Effect 2 he was working as part of a squad to save abducted colonists from the Collectors. During the mission they secured essential data that could be used to address the Collector threat (and I think linked them to Reapers), but it couldn't be retrieved in time without sacrificing the colonist extraction. He chose the former, losing the colonists and extracting the data, but shortly after returning the data Shepard's crew wiped out the Collectors, essentially making his choice redundant.

His bitter about it, for good reason. And I guess in retrospect that was foreshadowing for just how much your choices mattered in Mass Effect 3.
 

Patryn

Member
I'm also a Vega supporter. I really liked his perspective, and in my last run actually took him with me a bunch for his dialogue and insights.

He's basically a much, much better version of the character Ashley wanted to be in ME1: the grunt with their boots in the mud.
 

Big Nikus

Member
it couldn't be retrieved in time without sacrificing the colonist extraction. He chose the former, losing the colonists and extracting the data

I liked that part. Basically we see him making the Paragon choice, we see how it pans out, and then "oh wait, reload save", and he picks the Renegade option. So really, Paragon lost.
 
On the topic of character design a bunch of your squad in Mass Effect: Andromeda so far is looking to betray the clean, symmetrical designs that the Mass Effect series has done so well.

Drack is the worst offender with the dumb bones around his armour. He'd look great without them and already has the cool facial spikes to set himself apart from other Krogan. I realllllllllllly hope we get some kind of alternate costume that gives him normal looking gear.

I want more nuance like Mordin's missing Salarian head-fringe and Wrex's facial scar and less wankery like Jack's tattoos and Zaeed's weird half and half armour.
 

diaspora

Member
The Andromeda Initiative website has some awesome art. Anyway to retrieve the background pictures from the website?

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Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
Vega should've been bangable.

Edit: Apparently he was in Citadel... And after watching the video... yikes. FemShep got creepy.

Lol, I never bothered looking into this before thinking there was nothing to do with him.

Yikes like you said. Shepard like a starving beast!
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
Real talk; I have a soft spot for Vega. I rolled my eyes hard during pre-release media as he seemed like such obvious focus tested pandering to the bro crowd, but throughout the game I found him pretty well characterized. His personality isn't particularly obnoxious, he has a decent backstory with legitimate reason to be tense with Shepard to begin with, and he offers a more grounded, sobering perspective into Alliance military. Something that Ashley and Kaiden don't really provide.

A bit boring maybe. And definitely not particularly memorable in design. But in all honesty I found him totally inoffensive and welcome in the third game..

I watched Paragon Lost before I played the game, so my perspective of Vega was changed in the matter of a couple hours, as during pre-release build-up I was 100% against his inclusion as he seemed boring, generic and 'dude-broish' (although that's now a obsolete term).

His in-game tussle with Shepard in the docking bay was really well done, brought out the feels from the film.

If anyone hasn't watched the anime film yet, it's worth it I reckon, pretty good bit of story.
 

Ridesh

Banned
The lack of substantial footage is starting to annoy me, the game desperately needs a well done story trailer.

Next week maybe?
 

X-Frame

Member
Some of my favorite pre-release trailers were the showcases of the revamped 5 classes before ME2.

Those 1:30 minutes trailers got me super hyped for ME2, and this was before I had even started ME1.
 

Ralemont

not me
Vega is great. There are times when I feel his story beats echoed ME1-2 Garrus a bit too much but overall I don't think they could have done his type of character any better. By the time he and Ashley hooked up in the Citadel DLC I was like "get it boi"
 
The lack of substantial footage is starting to annoy me, the game desperately needs a well done story trailer.

Next week maybe?
Starting towards the end of the month and into next month. They're doing a deep dive with IGN next month, expect media/info every other day or so.
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
Starting towards the end of the month and into next month. They're doing a deep dive with IGN next month, expect media/info every other day or so.

Can't wait for this, if for no other reason than to shush heavy naysayers a bit....the silence feeds them like a Chocobo at lunch time.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
-"They have barely show anything. The game will surely get delayed to this summer or even November."
Said increasingly pessimist gamer for the 7th time.
 
I guess apparently the game was officially rated (MA 15+) in Australia for:

Moderate impact adult themes
Moderate impact language
Moderate impact drug use
Moderate impact nudity

Strong impact violence
Strong impact sex scenes

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I guess apparently the game was officially rated (MA 15+) in Australia for:

Moderate impact adult themes
Moderate impact language
Moderate impact drug use
Moderate impact nudity

Strong impact violence
Strong impact sex scenes

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You left out the best part:

[b]Moderate impact nudity[/b]

This ain't no ME trilogy.
 

Patryn

Member
Can I just admit that I've always hated the focus people have on sex and nudity when it comes to Mass Effect games?

Always comes off creepy to me.

Honestly I'd be perfectly happy if the game had absolutely no sex scenes.
 

Yeul

Member
Can I just admit that I've always hated the focus people have on sex and nudity when it comes to Mass Effect games?

Always comes off creepy to me.

Honestly I'd be perfectly happy if the game had absolutely no sex scenes.

Yeah and I'm on tumblr so it's worse. I like the relationships and stuff but they definitely lean into it a lot which is whatever, it sells games I guess. I just want to rip my hair out when people abuse devs over video game romances.
 
Can I just admit that I've always hated the focus people have on sex and nudity when it comes to Mass Effect games?

Always comes off creepy to me.

Honestly I'd be perfectly happy if the game had absolutely no sex scenes.

What, you didn't like stuff like the Quarian sweat topic on the BSN?

But yeah I agree. I'm already seeing more of the "I can't wait to fuck the Turian!" type stuff on Tumblr, for example, and it comes across as weird when we don't even know the characters (plus the intensity/obsession with sex in general).
 

DevilDog

Member
Can I just admit that I've always hated the focus people have on sex and nudity when it comes to Mass Effect games?

Always comes off creepy to me.

Honestly I'd be perfectly happy if the game had absolutely no sex scenes.

Agreed. And when devs actually retweeting this stuff is embarassing. Talk about it with your friends but not publicly.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Red sand Hanar orgy here we come.

Can I just admit that I've always hated the focus people have on sex and nudity when it comes to Mass Effect games?

Always comes off creepy to me.

Honestly I'd be perfectly happy if the game had absolutely no sex scenes.

I feel pretty similar to be honest, but liken it to a BioWare problem rather than the simple fact there's sex and nudity in the game. Waifu/shipping culture in general come across as oddly possessive and creepy. Romances can comfortably be a part of any engaging narrative arc, but sometimes BioWare's feel excessively pandering and fail to develop in an organic way.

They're getting better with Mass Effect though, I think, mainly due to stronger character dynamics. Inquisition has some utterly atrocious romance dialogue, with some lines seemingly penned by someone who's never actually had romantic relations.

I do wish the romance arcs were a bit more complicated though, and if it were me writing them I'd make some characters just totally unwilling to commit to a relationship even if you've slept with them. Character writing in interactive games, especially RPGs, is always at its strongest to me when the NPCs don't exist entirely to serve the player. Romance in games unfortunately is so much that; you basically get to pick from your harem who you want and if you click the right dialogue you're guaranteed to get them.

Add in some heartbreak with a dash of tragedy. Don't always give the player exactly what they want. Get them dumped. Have them chase dead ends. Imbue characters with the illusion of autonomy and individuality.
 
Can I just admit that I've always hated the focus people have on sex and nudity when it comes to Mass Effect games?

Always comes off creepy to me.

Honestly I'd be perfectly happy if the game had absolutely no sex scenes.
Not sure I understand what's creepy about liking sex.

You can absolutely play the games as if there's no sex though you know that already ;)

Agreed. And when devs actually retweeting this stuff is embarassing. Talk about it with your friends but not publicly.
Didn't realize we were living in Saudi Arabia lol.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I wanna fuck everyone on the Tempest; no exceptions. I want to fuck my entire crew; the squadmates, the pilot, the engineers, the nameless NPCs, everyone. I want to have it happen early and the entire game is emotionally passive aggressive and awkward.
 
I wanna fuck everyone on the Tempest; no exceptions. I want to fuck my entire crew; the squadmates, the pilot, the engineers, the nameless NPCs, everyone. I want to have it happen early and the entire game is emotionally passive aggressive and awkward.

Ship-wide announcement. "Everyone please form an orderly line to the Captain's quarters."
 

Yeul

Member
There's nothing wrong with liking sex, I think it's more what EatChildren said about shipping culture or like I mentioned earlier how people abuse devs when they don't write a romance to their specifications. I see so many instances of people planning to romance a character before they even know anything about the character and once they find out they can't romance them, the abuse starts. Tbh if you plan your entire romance before you get your hands on the game you deserve to be disappointed, but that's an issue I see more on Tumblr (or on BSN, but that's not officially around anymore).

Regarding romances, I guess according to devs there will be flings/people not interested in anything other than hooking up so that should satisfy some people's play style. And yeah, DA:I had some weird romance moments, though I never romanced anyone other than Solas and just watched the others in YouTube videos. Solas's romance was so good and you do get dumped and you have no choice. There isn't a sex scene but the romance is so strong that you don't need it. If they write more romances that way, that'd be great. It was an improvement in terms of complexity of emotions.
 
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