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NPD - FFXV experienced the best console launch month in franchise history

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Muscle Wizard

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DirgeExtinction said:
A lot of complaints I've read about Gears 4 was that it was more of the same. Though, to be fair, a lot of praise was essentially the same argument.

FFXV, on the other hand, changed quite a lot of the typical FF formula.
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On top of that, there really was an over-saturation of shooters this year, with Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2, and CoD IW and MWR competing against Gears 4 as well as people deciding to keep playing Overwatch.

FFXV was a big budget JRPG, which there aren't a lot of on Xbox One.
 
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gundamkyoukai

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Muscle Wizard said:
On top of that, there really was an over-saturation of shooters this year, with Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2, and CoD IW and MWR competing against Gears 4 as well as people deciding to keep playing Overwatch.

FFXV was a big budget JRPG, which there aren't a lot of on Xbox One.
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There is like 2 or 3 big budget JRPGs be it XB1 , PC or PS4 .
 
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DarkLordMalik

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Illucio said:
Good short term sales and bad lifelong sales?
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Why bad lifelong sales? It is going to have good legs since they will keep releasing free content patches that add more to the game and they also have a Season Pass with DLCs that will be released throughout the year. Finally they might end up releasing a GOTY edition with all DLC and also a PC port in early 2018.

When all is said and done, FFXV should be able to easily clear 8+ million in shipped-digital.
 
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Socivol

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DarkLordMalik said:
I am happy to hear that the game did well. It is on its pace to be the top 3 best selling FF behind VII and X. Impressive all things considered.

I am also glad we are finally going to see a brand new FF :D
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It makes me happy it did well too. My favorite PS4 game and one of my favorite Final Fantasies (would be #1 if that story was tighter).
 
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Yabberwocky

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DirgeExtinction said:
A lot of complaints I've read about Gears 4 was that it was more of the same. Though, to be fair, a lot of praise was essentially the same argument.

FFXV, on the other hand, changed quite a lot of the typical FF formula.
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Muscle Wizard said:
On top of that, there really was an over-saturation of shooters this year, with Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2, and CoD IW and MWR competing against Gears 4 as well as people deciding to keep playing Overwatch.

FFXV was a big budget JRPG, which there aren't a lot of on Xbox One.
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Yeah, it certainly was something different! FFXV also offered a really unique, immersive road trip experience, like I've never really seen in a lot of games before. I know there was European influence in places, with a Japanese aesthetic on top, but I guess there is also a core roadtrip aspect to the game that does feel very Americana.
 
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theofficefan99

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This is nothing but good news. If anything this might mean a push towards ARPG combat, but that's about it. Every mainline FF is so different from one another it's ridiculous. XVI will probably be something vastly different from XV.
 
IAmAnAgnostic

IAmAnAgnostic

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This was actually my first Final Fantasy, and I imagine this was the case for many people.

I wasn't sure exactly what to expect going in, but I ended up enjoying my time. I like the unique and weird atmosphere it has going on, and there actually is quite a lot of content in the game, I have been especially surprised with the large amount of enemies.

Playing the game it is of course obvious that it is rushed on many areas, but apparently the actual game we know today began development three years ago? In that case I find the end result very impressive. In the second half especially it becomes painfully clear massive chunks of the game didn't make it in time! (and I haven't even followed the development, but you can tell very easily)

I can only hope they patch in or add in as DLC much more content.
 
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duckroll

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On a different tangent, what do we think this might mean for FFXII HD? The game style and aesthetic of FFXII is more popular in the west now than ever before. Stuff like Vagrant Story and FFXII felt ahead of their time for the western console audience. With FFXV selling successfully, could FFXII HD end up doing far better than expectations?
 
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DarkLordMalik

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duckroll said:
On a different tangent, what do we think this might mean for FFXII HD? The game style and aesthetic of FFXII is more popular in the west now than ever before. Stuff like Vagrant Story and FFXII felt ahead of their time for the western console audience. With FFXV selling successfully, could FFXII HD end up doing far better than expectations?
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Nope. It won't come close to the sales of the X remaster, which were around 500k or so in NPD. X remaster sold better than Lightning Returns.

I expect XII HD to sell the same as Type-0 HD, which means somewhere between 200 to 300k.
 
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crashnburn

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Wonderful news. Despite its glaring flaws I loved the game immensely. First Platinum I've gotten (outside the piss easy Walking Dead Season 1).

If Squenix takes FFXV as a blue print for successors, I see a wealth of areas they could greatly improve and expand assuming they have a better unified vision from the start.
 
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Mcdohl

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duckroll said:
On a different tangent, what do we think this might mean for FFXII HD? The game style and aesthetic of FFXII is more popular in the west now than ever before. Stuff like Vagrant Story and FFXII felt ahead of their time for the western console audience. With FFXV selling successfully, could FFXII HD end up doing far better than expectations?
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I doubt it because:
  • Vaan, and the fact that his arc is among the first impression you get of the game (right after the prologue) is probably a giga turn off for the western masses
  • It's a 10 year old game
  • Battle system is not action enough for the current western masses
  • SE will not invest as much in its marketing. SE did a bunch of crazy shit for XV like Uber collab, an Uncovered event, etc.

XII HD is for the fans, for people who already know what they are getting into
 
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Rymuth

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As a long time FF-fan, this game disappointed me. Too much faffing about that ultimately made the narrative suffer for it. I've written my thoughts in detail on several occasions.

BUT

I really like current SquareEnix under Matsuda. I'm in love with Final Fantasy again (thanks, XIV) and I love JRPGs. So I am very happy with these results. Congrats to Tabata and his team and may the game continue selling.

Next up~ Persona 5!
 
Rambone

Rambone

Member
I absolutely adore this game. Probably GOTY for me honestly. It has been such a long time that I've sat down and completed a game from start to finish. Still enjoying the game post ending.
 
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Metrotab

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Everything I've seen about this game impressed me a lot. Feels like a game that I would really enjoy. Hopefully they come with a shiny PC port down the road, I really want to play it.

Otherwise, this might just be the game I will buy a console for.
 
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Raylan

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Can't find anything in the OP or the GIbiz article, so:
Any informations about the FFXV split between the PS4 and XBO?
 
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GreenMakoEyes

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duckroll said:
On a different tangent, what do we think this might mean for FFXII HD? The game style and aesthetic of FFXII is more popular in the west now than ever before. Stuff like Vagrant Story and FFXII felt ahead of their time for the western console audience. With FFXV selling successfully, could FFXII HD end up doing far better than expectations?
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I don't think so. Actually I think FFXII HD will come short of most expectations sales-wise. It won't reach numbers FFX HD did. FFX is a special gem in people's heart.
 
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ForkNetwork

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kswiston said:
20-30% of 1.5M physical copies is a pretty large number of copies, and well worth a port.

20% of 200k copies probably isn't.
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I see it more as laying the foundation for better sales of KH3, because otherwise KH3 will probably bomb and bomb hard. I do understand your point, its just a shame Square isnt even giving the Xbox crowd a chance.
 
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Faustek

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Rather have full priced expansions.
It's not like the game doesn't have two huge areas locked away. I want them.

Anyway, cool.
 
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Gurish

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So obviously the game is a tremendous success that exceeded everyone's expectations, but what made it sell so well? is it because it was an open world and open world is the hottest thing this gen (just like how cinematic shooters were last gen) or is it because FF is just a really strong brand still?

In short, what are the main reasons for such an unexpectedly huge success in a pretty declining genre do you think?
 
Infinite_Daremo

Infinite_Daremo

Member
I loved the game. Im just the fishing skill shy of the platinum and im just gonna leave it until they make NG+ worthwhile. Even a level reset would be nice enough.
 
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gundamkyoukai

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Gurish said:
So obviously the game is a tremendous success that exceeded everyone's expectations, but what made it sell so well? is it because it was an open world and open world is the hottest thing this gen (just like how cinematic shooters were last gen) or is it because FF is just a really strong brand still?

In short, what are the main reasons for such an unexpectedly huge success in a pretty declining genre do you think?
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I can think of a few reasons .
FF brand seem to be stronger than what people thought .
People were really looking forward to a new mainline game ( not counting FFXIV)
Good reviews and marketing plus being open world \ action base help in the west .
Also i don't think the genre was declining since FFXIII sold more than FFXII people were just tired of FFXIII .

Side note if FFVIIR get done right it going to be huge .
 
Castef

Castef

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ForkNetwork said:
I see it more as laying the foundation for better sales of KH3, because otherwise KH3 will probably bomb and bomb hard. I do understand your point, its just a shame Square isnt even giving the Xbox crowd a chance.
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In general, by releasing your games to a different audience you... enlarge yours. What I mean is: by continuously releasing games on other platforms you make the audience of those platforms progressively acquainted to your games/IP. You are actually farming new users without being tied to a single hardware manufacturer and this is only good for you, as a software house. It also rises your negotiation power with Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

Asking "So, what's the split" hoping to get "bad" news for a single manufacturer is just plain, plain stupid (and I know most of the people who make that questions have a specific... "idea" in their mind).
 
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Pachimari

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Final Fantasy XV is a legit great game, so the success is well deserved. Anyone saying it's not deserved is fucking deluded.
 
Perfo

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I'm so happy for them, now I hope they can keep selling on long terms too. And also that they take this recent success into their next big title without waiting year and years and wasting all these efforts.
 
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BossDarkseid

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geordiemp said:
Bought it on Ps4, not played it yet, awaiting the PRO patch.

Any news ?
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It has Pro support, i think? But not the 1080p/targeting 60fps patch. Which feels like it will never come, I feel like they regret mentioning that, but they're patching it fairly regularly so we'll probably find its a footnote of a patch in a month or two.
 
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Orcastar

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Completely underserved. The game is garbage and one of the worst mainline Final Fantasy games ever, right up there with XIII.
 
Castef

Castef

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Angel_DvA said:
I wish it was a Persona 5 thread, a better game that will have limited success because it isn't called Final Fantasy.
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This does not make much sense as a rant.

Final Fantasy sells so well in the west also because Square Enix promoted and pushed the game in the west. Something Atlus/Sega never did extensively with Persona. You gather what you planted.
 
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