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[Frumix]

You can kill Connla with one party normally, why do you need a melee LB3 for that lol

 

[wamberz1]

You can kill Connla with one party normally, why do you need a melee LB3 for that lol

For when the other dps aren't paying attention/are dead and there is only 3 of you
Pugs are fun times

 

[Haly]

You can kill Connla with one party normally, why do you need a melee LB3 for that lol

DPS too busy trying to burn down Scathath before Connla wipes us ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[aceface]

Scathath is harder for me than diabolo. I have trouble keeping track of what mechanic is going on since they just rapid fire one after another.

Plus Diablos he kills himself after you get him down to like 40%.

Tough decision tonight, romantic Valentines evening with the wife or GAF Dun scaith. Romantic evening with the wife at Dun Scaith maybe? Red if we're not there tonight blame Chocolate.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Romantic evening with Scathach stepping on me because the MT died

 

[Haly]

Romantic evening with Scathach stepping on me

 

[Redx508]

Plus Diablos he kills himself after you get him down to like 40%.

Tough decision tonight, romantic Valentines evening with the wife or GAF Dun scaith. Romantic evening with the wife at Dun Scaith maybe? Red if we're not there tonight blame Chocolate.

lol

 

[ebil]

I am so hyped for fan fest after catching up in the story. What are the odds that we get the full CGI intro this time?

Low. We're still missing one half of 3.5 and they won't risk spoiling the plot.

 

[The Last Wizard]

DPS needed for roulette again. What a time to be alive.

 

[katagai]

Was watching the latest Demo Derby on Giant Bomb, and during the FFXI segment, I noticed someone who looked familiar:

 

[Frumix]

Was watching the latest Demo Derby on Giant Bomb, and during the FFXI segment, I noticed someone who looked familiar:

He never had hair

 

[Meowster]

I might buy that Before the Fall soundtrack. Woo, that music.

 

[Squishy3]

Was watching the latest Demo Derby on Giant Bomb, and during the FFXI segment, I noticed someone who looked familiar:

You can see him in the Puppetmaster reveal video too.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2006/03/10/ffxi-online-x360-puppetmaster-announcement-video-off-screen

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Interesting Monk thread on reddit right now.

Talks about Monk's place in raids, limitations and 3.0 skills.

 

[Squishy3]

Looking at that thread (and of course Monk's TP problems in general due to GL3) maybe they should change tornado kick so it gets purifications effect? Maybe drop it to 200 TP instead since it'll do damage and drop the potency since it now also gives you TP. This way you still lose something since you drop GL, but you're not losing as much as not doing anything while you use meditation, in addition to giving a OGCD ability to line up during your CD usage.

missed positional potency buff would be welcome too because it'd mean stupid PF monks wouldn't place feet-aoes where they don't belong because muh positionals

 

[Edzi]

Question for you guys: I got this game (just the base game, no expansions) as part of a Humble Bundle like a year ago and I played a bit during my free month (was in the early Dragoon quests if I remember correctly), but I stopped because I didn't have much time and the game was starting to get kinda grindy. Recently though, I've kind of been craving a grindy game with some social elements, so I can just hop on sometimes while I'm listening to a podcast or something. Do you guys think the game is worth it for someone like me who probably won't have as much time as the average MMO player to invest in the game? Are the more "casual" or social elements worth the price of admission, especially this late into the game's life?

 

[Stone Ocean]

Looking at that thread (and of course Monk's TP problems in general due to GL3) maybe they should change tornado kick so it gets purifications effect? Maybe drop it to 200 TP instead since it'll do damage and drop the potency since it now also gives you TP. This way you still lose something since you drop GL, but you're not losing as much as not doing anything while you use meditation, in addition to giving a OGCD ability to line up during your CD usage.

missed positional potency buff would be welcome too because it'd mean stupid PF monks wouldn't place feet-aoes where they don't belong because muh positionals

It's so weird how DRG and NIN get more leeway in their combos between positionals and TP while MNK gets jack shit.

I have no clue how to fix MNK besides removing INT down from Delirium so they offer at least something unique to raids.

Question for you guys: I got this game (just the base game, no expansions) as part of a Humble Bundle like a year ago and I played a bit during my free month (was in the early Dragoon quests if I remember correctly), but I stopped because I didn't have much time and the game was starting to get kinda grindy. Recently though, I've kind of been craving a kinda grindy game with some social elements, so I can just hop on sometimes while I'm listening to a podcast or something. Do you guys think the game is worth it for someone like me who probably won't have as much time as the avg MMO player to invest in the game? Are the more "casual" or social elements worth the price of admission?

You could argue that the casual stuff is the most fleshed out part of the game, between storylines and other things.

 

[Lunafreya Nox Fleuret]

Yeah, Monk is insanely fun but does have some glaring issues like Purification which is a terrible terrible skill. Monk is still like the most fun dps class in this game though. It keeps you on the edge of your seat and constantly moving. I know it is frustrating at times but it is fun, imo. I don't play Monk in raids though so I can't really comment on that front.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Yeah, Monk is insanely fun but does have some glaring issues like Purification which is a terrible terrible skill. Monk is still like the most fun dps class in this game though. It keeps you on the edge of your seat and constantly moving. I know it is frustrating at times but it is fun, imo. I don't play Monk in raids though so I can't really comment on that front.

idk, 300 extra TP is pretty nice. If you're not using Purification in the correct situation you're a bad MNK, and not sure if there are many fights that require you to actually stop DPSing to charge it up. Purification is fine.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Question for you guys: I got this game (just the base game, no expansions) as part of a Humble Bundle like a year ago and I played a bit during my free month (was in the early Dragoon quests if I remember correctly), but I stopped because I didn't have much time and the game was starting to get kinda grindy. Recently though, I've kind of been craving a grindy game with some social elements, so I can just hop on sometimes while I'm listening to a podcast or something. Do you guys think the game is worth it for someone like me who probably won't have as much time as the average MMO player to invest in the game? Are the more "casual" or social elements worth the price of admission, especially this late into the game's life?

The casual elements of the game are fantastic. Theres some amazing stuff for the more hardcore people, but I'd argue the best elements of the game are in the main storyline which gets better and better as you progress, especially towards the end and after 2.0 and only continues to improve.

And honestly at this point a lot of the side stuff that was considered hardcore is a lot more accessible now. You can easily run through the crystal tower and at least two of the HW 24 man raids fairly easily and even stuff like normal alexander.

 

[Stone Ocean]

idk, 300 extra TP is pretty nice. If you're not using Purification in the correct situation you're a bad MNK, and not sure if there are many fights that require you to actually stop DPSing to charge it up. Purification is fine.

Purification is a joke in any fight that isn't A9S. If you have enough downtime to charge 5 chakra then you'll naturally regen TP, if you need to charge it mid fight because you ran out of TP and Invigorate is on CD then your DPS is already fucked beyond repair and getting Purification will just make it worse.

 

[Edzi]

It's so weird how DRG and NIN get more leeway in their combos between positionals and TP while MNK gets jack shit.

I have no clue how to fix MNK besides removing INT down from Delirium so they offer at least something unique to raids.

You could argue that the casual stuff is the most fleshed out part of the game, between storylines and other things.

The casual elements of the game are fantastic. Theres some amazing stuff for the more hardcore people, but I'd argue the best elements of the game are in the main storyline which gets better and better as you progress, especially towards the end and after 2.0 and only continues to improve.

And honestly at this point a lot of the side stuff that was considered hardcore is a lot more accessible now. You can easily run through the crystal tower and at least two of the HW 24 man raids fairly easily and even stuff like normal alexander.

Cool, thanks, I guess it might actually be worth picking up to at least finish the main questlines. I'm guessing Heavensward is also basically required playing at this point to get the full "casual" experience?

 

[kagamin]

Cool, thanks, I guess it might actually be worth picking up to at least finish the main questlines. I'm guessing Heavensward is also basically required playing at this point to get the full "casual" experience?

Heavensward has the better story content to be honest, if you're in for that.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Purification is a joke in any fight that isn't A9S. If you have enough downtime to charge 5 chakra then you'll naturally regen TP, if you need to charge it mid fight because you ran out of TP and Invigorate is on CD then your DPS is already fucked beyond repair and getting Purification will just make it worse.

That's why you charge it during downtime and save it for when you need TP and invig is on cool down. You at worst miss out on one forbidden chakra, or you just use that when you know you absolutely won't need TP before the next downtime or the fight ends. It's really not rocket science.

 

[Stone Ocean]

That's why you charge it during downtime and save it for when you need TP and invig is on cool down. You at worst miss out on one forbidden chakra, or you just use that when you know you absolutely won't need TP before the next downtime or the fight ends. It's really not rocket science.

I can't think of a single fight where natural downtime regen isn't enough to carry you between Invigorate casts and even then it's better to just ask your BRD or MCH to TP song for a few seconds than to waste your biggest piece of burst. At best Purification gives you a way to regen TP after death if Invigorate is on CD, but then you just waste 5 seconds doing no damage.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

I can't think of a single fight where natural downtime regen isn't enough to carry you betweem Invigorate casts and even then it's better to just ask your BRD or MCH to TP song for a few seconds than to waste your biggest piece of burst.

If by biggest piece of burst you mean a 5k damage ability you get once or twice a fight, then sure? It's negligible tbh. I actually think Purification is the better ability of the two.

 

[Haly]

Downtime is pain.

"Time to Trick Attack/Kassatsu!"

"Oh, it's a roleplaying segment. Well, there goes that cooldown."

 

[Stone Ocean]

If by biggest piece of burst you mean a 5k damage ability you get once or twice a fight, then sure? It's negligible tbh. I actually think Purification is the better ability of the two.

They're both shit. And if your Forbidden Chakras are doing 5k then you're doing something wrong. *monkey noises*

 

[PhillipCostigan]

They're both shit. And if your Forbidden Chakras are doing 5k then you're doing something wrong.

?????? Bud I'm a career MNK I know what I'm doing lol. Unless it crits it doesn't do all that much.

 

[iammeiam]

They're both shit. And if your Forbidden Chakras are doing 5k then you're doing something wrong.

So my group's monk has a top 50 parse in A11S.

He hits about 5k on non-crits in it.

so um

You can fish to combine with group synergy as best you can but 5k is not 'something wrong' territory

 

[PhillipCostigan]

lol

 

[scy]

I can't think of a single fight where natural downtime regen isn't enough to carry you between Invigorate casts and even then it's better to just ask your BRD or MCH to TP song for a few seconds than to waste your biggest piece of burst.

As I said, if you're needing Purification anywhere outside of A9S your Invigorate timing needs work.

If you're needing Purification in A9S, stop padding the adds that hard and don't take 6 minutes to kill the thing? And I'm not sure you can really go in one post of noting their TP woes and then this post comment there's enough natural downtime. Our Monk asks for Goad pretty often, though he's a greedy fuck with uptime so, yes, the TP deficit is kind of a thing, albeit one that's easy to handle.

And let's back it up a bit. If the solution is "just ask for TP Regen to be played (at the cost of your damage)" then that's basically the entire problem in itself. Monk is a selfish DPS class. They will push more than the other melee but will do so by costing the raid their damage. Even if they had no TP problems, which really are such a non-issue that nobody actually cares about this in practice, they'd still be costing total DPS by taking a slot from either a DRG or NIN. Even if they outDPS'd all of their utility contributions to a raid, it would still mean the entire raid looks worse to prop up a Monk.

That's why nobody really likes having them. They add nothing and detract from other's performance to not even be the best option.

 

[Stone Ocean]

For some reason I thought he was talking about crits. Guess I'm just retarded.

If you're needing Purification in A9S, stop padding the adds that hard and don't take 6 minutes to kill the thing? And I'm not sure you can really go in one post of noting their TP woes and then this post comment there's enough natural downtime. Our Monk asks for Goad pretty often, though he's a greedy fuck with uptime so, yes, the TP deficit is kind of a thing, albeit one that's easy to handle.

I only used it in progression and didn't really pad them, just one Rockbreaker with EF+HF was enough to make my TP get really fucky by the time Faust went down. On the downtime thing, I was talking about downtimes that allow you to charge 5 stacks in one go, if you have time to charge that then you won't need Purification.

 

[Big Brett]

Just resubbed, I've never been too high leveled but I'm excited to explore and hang on the game!

 

[draw4wild]

Am I missing something with PotD? I've been trying to do 1-10 solo and I just can't beat the lvl 10 boss at lvl 18/19 with aetherpool around +3/4. I know it will get easier as i reset it since the aetherpol stats remain but am I supposed to do it in a group the first time? Or the fact I'm doing it as ninja holding me back? Can I join a random 1-10 group in duty finder and do it if I'm still learning the mechanics of PotD, or is that frowned upon?

 

[Stone Ocean]

Am I missing something with PotD? I've been trying to do 1-10 solo and I just can't beat the lvl 10 boss at lvl 18/19 with aetherpool around +3/4. I know it will get easier as i reset it since the aetherpol stats remain but am I supposed to do it in a group the first time? Or the fact I'm doing it as ninja holding me back? Can I join a random 1-10 group in duty finder and do it if I'm still learning the mechanics of PotD, or is that frowned upon?

You're supposed to do them with a party the first time around, yeah. You'll have a hard time soloing them without capped aetherpool gear, just join a matched party and roll with it.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

What do people think of this point?

When other classes had TP problems (or even when they didn't), they were boosted in patches. Monk's TP has never been adjusted. Instead, monk spent one of its abilities on it, and it costs damage to use, and it has a 2 minute timer. Yes, that timer has been an issue sometimes.
Despite this ability, monk still has the worst TP, and 2nd worst when they use purification.

I think it's interesting that they devoted a whole ability to regaining some TP instead of adjusting TP values to the point where they could have maybe put something cooler there instead.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Honestly I dunno whats the point of TP existing to begin with

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Honestly I dunno whats the point of TP existing to begin with

Isn't TP something that was built up then consume for special attacks in previous games? I could be remembering that wrong.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Isn't TP something that was built up then consume for special attacks in previous games? I could be remembering that wrong.

Yeah, that's how it worked in XI from what I've read.

 

[firehawk12]

Just wondering, if I did the PS3 to PS4 upgrade of FF14... how do I buy Heavensward? On PSN it says I don't own the PS4 version of FF14 (since I technically never bought it), so I'm not sure how to get it while it's still on sale.

 

[Lonestar]

Just wondering, if I did the PS3 to PS4 upgrade of FF14... how do I buy Heavensward? On PSN it says I don't own the PS4 version of FF14 (since I technically never bought it), so I'm not sure how to get it while it's still on sale.

I do believe that Heavensward is coming with a purchase of Stormblood. Think that was listed.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

I do believe that Heavensward is coming with a purchase of Stormblood. Think that was listed.

I don't think you'll get access to Heavensward until Stormblood comes out if you do that though.

 

[ebil]

I liked the era of literally being able to afk to make myself a sandwich while building TP as a FF11 DRG.

 

[Haly]

Honestly I dunno whats the point of TP existing to begin with

So they could waste my bar space with Goad.

 

[Redx508]

Update on the Guildwork addon

 

[human onion]

Hey! I bought this game recently for a break from GW2. I'm still in the trial period now, but I'd like to join the GAF free company when I get the chance. Don't know how long I'll sub for, but I'd like to try getting into another MMO and I hear this one's good.

 

[rubius01]

Update on Guildwork

What the hell is Guildwork?

 

[Shrennin]

yea summoners are good.

here's a video on getting started

FFXIV New Player Guide Getting Started Leveling, Tips and Tricks for new Players

if you're not sure about something feel free to ask here or ingame

That video was really helpful. I like how there's an XP benefit for food. It means I'll actually have use for it now unlike most other games.

already mentioned this link on the thread many times, but here it is again
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Guide:Progression and Level Locked Content
highly recommend you follow this guide even for your 1st character

I'm using this guide, and I'm gonna work on the hunting logs tomorrow. Although I was level 5 before I got the hunting logs because I couldn't find one specific enemy and I got sidetracked by side quests lol

 

[Redx508]

What the hell is Guildwork?

the website and addon for xiv