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[Razgriz-Specter]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

 

[PhantomX1313]

Belive me Reeves didnt wanted to do Affleck script or demanded significant changes to it. He's cool if he didnt get this and isnt going anywhere, Apes franchise credit is big enough

 

[Dali]

Why you scared?


Wait until the sequel and his new sidekick

Wtf? That doesn't even look that old. Yiu expect sonething like that to be a product of tge 70s

Using the ambiguously gay duo type jokes as a blueprint I can easily envision panels where a bunch of white heroines are trying to get Jim to take them to dinner or something and he says "you know my black ass can't go with you." The next panel pulls out and you see he's walking his black donkey.

 

[Slayven]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

Shiiiiitttt if that happens I am taking a break from comic related threads.

Spoiler

I am lying.

 

[Slayven]

Wtf? That doesn't even look that old. Yiu expect sonething like that to be a product of tge 70s Using the ambiguously gay duo type jokes as a blueprint I can easily envision panels where a bunch of white heroines are trying to get Jim to take them to dinner or something and he says "you know my black ass can't go with you." The next panel pulls out and you see he's walking his black donkey.

Buck Wild aka Buck Lightening aka Buck Voodoo aka Buck Goliath aka Jim Crow is a parody of black superheroes in the 70s. RIP the god McDuffie

 

[Ocarina_117]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

Really don't believe that.

Batfleck was by far and away the greatest thing about BvS

Spoiler

and even suicide squad.

 

[Infinite Stars]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

Can we just skip to the documentary about the universe, with a montage of all this batshit stuff to Osborn's Crazy Train?

"WE'RE GOING OFF THE RAILS ON A CRAZY TRAIN"

 

[Elchele]

Imagine a Batman made by Fede Álvarez. That would be insanely good

 

[SatoAilDarko]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

Could they actually recast Bruce after his starring roles in BvS and JL? I guess the something similar happened with Edward Norton to Ruffalo but that was one movie.

 

[kingslunk]

I'll direct it. Someone get me in contact with a studio exec. I'll out do Nolans batmans.

 

[Kusagari]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

LOL at WB. Them saying it's mutual is obviously them throwing a fit he wants out.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Could they actually recast Bruce after his starring roles in BvS and JL? I guess the something similar happened with Edward Norton to Ruffalo but that was one movie.

I think its too big for that compared to Hulk.

I guess solo Batman could be 20+year prequels with a different actor and down the line recast current day Batman would work.
(I wouldn't complain if they just gave it to Caviezel though)

 

[Slayven]

Maybe they should take a note from Fox and do a an R rated Cassandra Cain movie

 

[SatoAilDarko]

I think its too big for that compared to Hulk.

I guess solo Batman could be 20+year prequels with a different actor and down the line recast current day Batman would work.
(I wouldn't complain if they just gave it to Caviezel though)

Could they actually avoid having Batman in Justice League movies not to mention Harley and the Joker in other current movies? Dickbats is a smart way to get a new Batman but I don't think WB would be okay with not having Bruce Wayne be Batman.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Maybe they should take a note from Fox and do a an R rated Cassandra Cain movie

Nah. They will just fall back and give Snyder his wet dream of doing an R rated Dark Knight Returns film instead of shoehorning in parts of it into the next DCEU film.

 

[MisterHero]

Nah. They will just fall back and give Snyder his wet dream of doing an R rated Dark Knight Returns film instead of shoehorning in parts of it into the next DCEU film.

Hey if adapting DKR3 is the only way to get Kandor then so be it

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Can we have that Superman Returns sequel now?

 

[Dali]

Can we have that Superman Returns sequel now?

Starring the 12 year old son of superman as he gets into mischief and solves mysteries with his reliable wonder pup, Shep.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Maybe they should take a note from Fox and do a an R rated Cassandra Cain movie

Give Cassandra back to Marvel.

 

[inky]

Can we have that Superman Returns sequel now?

Now we are talking.

 

[BadAss2961]

Can we have that Superman Returns sequel now?

No.

I'd rather have a Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern sequel.

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

Spider-man actually fits the formula though, and Keaton as the villain seems to have actual balls. So while it'll be noted and committeed to death like the others, it should be okay save for the tacked on Iron Man shit.

With Black Panther there's so much potential for them to do it right I'm expecting something that started out as a fine film, but got dragged down as the MCU required bullshit was tacked onto it. So while the cast and director have been great, that doesn't give it freedom from the MCU.

One thing we can't forget about some of these movies is that without the MCU and their "Assembly line" connectivity, we wouldn't have a Marvel Studios, or a Marvel Studios produced Spider-man, and certainly probably NEVER would have gotten a Black Panther movie at all.

Same with Wonder Woman. Movie probably never would have gotten greenlit as a solo project, for better or for worse (I hope it turns out well), had the MCU not triggered WB/DC's "mee-too" mentality.

Because Marvel did their own thing it allowed them the creative license to all but guarantee blockbuster success for many projects that probably never would have gotten major studio funding and budgets had they stood on their own, nor would have they had enough HYPE to generate enough audience interest pretty much not only guarantee a sequel, but fund the next 2 films made as well.

So while some may want to blame the Marvel machine just for existing, they should also thank them for giving WB/DC the push it needs to finally venture past big budgets and marketing for only Batman with the occasion attempt at Superman when it comes to Big Named characters in their vast and fully available catalog of characters.

Now if only WB/DC had copied Marvel on the most important part of this from the start, and laid out an actual plan of story progression, and maybe involved some people that had read more than a single run of a comic to help bring them bring these characters to the Big Screen, which a head honcho that actually KNOWS all the comics and stories to spear head the operation, they could have beat Marvel at their own game.... actually now that I think about it, they should have started this game long before Marvel ever got around to it..

 

[Bronx-Man]

I feel like it's inevitable that this thing is getting rebooted. I just wonder if Justice League or Aquaman will be the last movie in this universe.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Could they actually avoid having Batman in Justice League movies not to mention Harley and the Joker in other current movies? Dickbats is a smart way to get a new Batman but I don't think WB would be okay with not having Bruce Wayne be Batman.

Lets say:
JL1 he is in
Gotham City Sirens is Batgirl & Nightwing or Birds of Prey, at most stuntBatman maybe with a modulated voice.
Batman prequel
JL2 = Flashpoint or Atlantis and you don't really need Batman, Flashpoint would perfectly set up a new Bruce Wayne.
Next movie = new Bruce

At worst plug the hell out of the recast Batman in Sirens,
still think you do a prequel at that point to break it up
And new Batman in JL2


Or emergency option,
Flash 2018 is Flashpoint,(JL 1.5) reset a few things like Batman.
Batman 2019
Justice League 2 2019

 

[shira]

WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

You either get immortalized by Betty in a copyright violation viral youtube or you live long enough for WB to say we don't want you

#whynotboth
#ripdceu

 

[Slayven]

I don't like talking marvel in a dc thread and vis versue. But anyone calling a universe that has Ego The Living Planet in a tentpole movie cookiecutter, gets all the side eye.

 

[Mortimer Brewster]

Now if only WB/DC had copied Marvel on the most important part of this from the start, and laid out an actual plan of story progression, and maybe involved some people that had read more than a single run of a comic to help bring them bring these characters to the Big Screen, which a head honcho that actually KNOWS all the comics and stories to spear head the operation, they could have beat Marvel at their own game.... actually now that I think about it, they should have started this game long before Marvel ever got around to it..

Now now, Zachary Snyder has read the comics. The problem is he operates on the basis that every adaptation needs to worship at the nihilistic grim dark alter of Frank Miller or Alan Moore.

 

[Slayven]

Now now, Zachary Snyder has read the comics. The problem is he operates on the basis that every adaptation needs to worship of the nihilistic grim dark alter of Frank Miller or Alan Moore.

The man talked about Batman getting prison raped with a straight face.

 

[Mortimer Brewster]

The man talked about Batman getting prison raped with a straight face.

And that wouldn't be something Miller or Moore would do?

 

[Manmademan]

How do you write a Batman movie with all the other DCCU stuff going on? Justice League is pitting Batman in world-scale conflicts that obviously take priority over city-level ones.

That's a huge challenge!

Marvel has its street level heroes on Netflix handling lower tier conflicts there for a reason.

 

[IconGrist]

The man talked about Batman getting prison raped with a straight face.

Now, now Slayven. We talked about this...

 

[Kusagari]

Miller would definitely be fine with Batman getting prison raped.

 

[Slayven]

And that wouldn't be something Miller or Moore would do?

Moore i can't see that. Ennis in a bad mood and Millar on a Tuesday maybe.

Miller, who knows?

 

[Schlorgan]

The man talked about Batman getting prison raped with a straight face.

From what I've heard about Don't Breath, maybe that'll happen in the Fede Alvarez Batman film.

 

[LionPride]

From what I've heard about Don't Breath, maybe that'll happen in the Fede Alvarez Batman film.

With closeups of a jar of semen the entire time

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

lol Campea

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

One thing we can't forget about some of these movies is that without the MCU and their "Assembly line" connectivity, we wouldn't have a Marvel Studios, or a Marvel Studios produced Spider-man, and certainly probably NEVER would have gotten a Black Panther movie at all.

Same with Wonder Woman. Movie probably never would have gotten greenlit as a solo project, for better or for worse (I hope it turns out well), had the MCU not triggered WB/DC's "mee-too" mentality.

Because Marvel did their own thing it allowed them the creative license to all but guarantee blockbuster success for many projects that probably never would have gotten major studio funding and budgets had they stood on their own, nor would have they had enough HYPE to generate enough audience interest pretty much not only guarantee a sequel, but fund the next 2 films made as well.

So while some may want to blame the Marvel machine just for existing, they should also thank them for giving WB/DC the push it needs to finally venture past big budgets and marketing for only Batman with the occasion attempt at Superman when it comes to Big Named characters in their vast and fully available catalog of characters.

Now if only WB/DC had copied Marvel on the most important part of this from the start, and laid out an actual plan of story progression, and maybe involved some people that had read more than a single run of a comic to help bring them bring these characters to the Big Screen, which a head honcho that actually KNOWS all the comics and stories to spear head the operation, they could have beat Marvel at their own game.... actually now that I think about it, they should have started this game long before Marvel ever got around to it..

WB doesn't need to even look at Marvel.
Just take a glance at their animated stuff

something along those lines but a tad more serious would have easily worked following Man of Steel.

 

[Kusagari]

With closeups of a jar of semen the entire time

Cast Stephen Lang as a gay Lex Luthor.

 

[Manmademan]

WB doesn't need to even look at Marvel.
Just take a glance at their animated stuff

something along those lines but a tad more serious would have easily worked following Man of Steel.

they could also even mine their print stuff to see what has worked and what hasn't, which is *surprise* what Marvel has been doing, and what Fox has begun to do with Deadpool and Logan.

Batman v. Superman was a mess BECAUSE it ignored what has actually resonated with fans in favor of what Zack Snyder thinks is edgy.

 

[GabeTheGrouch76]

If the DCEU was doing Black Panther he would have a vibrinum grill and be on a quest for revenge against the jive turkeys that cut his BET signal.

THIS IS MY BODYGUARD. BITCH GOT MY BACK. I WOULD ADVISE NOT BEING MOVED BY HER. HER VENGEANCE WILL CONSUME THE SOULS OF HER VICTIMS.

 

[Fancyarcher]

Sheesh, some of the people on this thread need to chill down. Blaming Marvel for why the DCEU is seemingly falling apart isn't exactly gonna work you know.

Just get Paul Verhoeven to direct it.

Verhoeven is done with Hollywood for good at this point. He's probably never directing another blockbuster again.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Batman v. Superman was a mess BECAUSE it ignored what has actually resonated with fans in favor of what Zack Snyder thinks is edgy.

Exactly.

 

[Schlorgan]

With closeups of a jar of semen the entire time

Snyder just starts every negotiating meeting with "So, how would you feel about Batman getting raped in the movie?"

 

[GAMEPROFF]

From what I've heard about Don't Breath, maybe that'll happen in the Fede Alvarez Batman film.

Most disturbing scene in a long time

 

[Praetorpwj]

WB doesn't need to even look at Marvel.
Just take a glance at their animated stuff

something along those lines but a tad more serious would have easily worked following Man of Steel.

Great film but god does that cover suck. Cringe every time I see it.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Great film but god does that cover suck. Cringe every time I see it.

I know lol. should have just posted

 

[Busty]

*shrugs shoulders*

This smacks of the new head of production at Warners, Toby Emmerich who is known for keeping a control on costs while at New Line, making a stand and showing the town what his new regime will be all about. And what better way to do that but with his first big deal while in charge.

I suspect he wants to make an example of Matt Reeves (or, more accurately, his agents) and show that under his watch WB will perhaps not be as free spending, when it comes to talent, in future.

Or none of those things.

Either way they are 100% making this film.

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

WB doesn't need to even look at Marvel.
Just take a glance at their animated stuff
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/332?cb=20110131232108

something along those lines but a tad more serious would have easily worked following Man of Steel.

That's actually what I was getting at in the last line I posted. "now that I think about it, they (DC) should have started this game long before Marvel ever got around to it.."
I deleted a comment about looking at the long standing DCAU as inspiration when bringing a cinematic universe to the Big Screen, as I felt i was starting to move away from my original point, and didn't want to get to carried away in one post.

But considering the stories from around the time of Green Lantern, about how the comic writers and people involved w/ animation were not allowed to be involved because they didn't know anything about big screen movies (paraphrasing from memory), I guess they really just needed someone to demonstrate how to execute.

 

[Alienous]

LOL Campea just on the lastest Collider video reiterated what he said before about Ben wanting out but added,
he got another call saying its mutual and WB doesn't want him playing Batman as well.

I don't believe it but holy fuck if that was true somehow.

They're probably tired of his moaning about quality stopping them from printing money.

 

[Slayven]

THIS IS MY BODYGUARD. BITCH GOT MY BACK. I WOULD ADVISE NOT BEING MOVED BY HER. HER VENGEANCE WILL CONSUME THE SOULS OF HER VICTIMS.

Thats good, that is damn good