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Nintendo needs to let Pikmin go.

The Horror the horror

The Horror the horror

Banned
I was looking at the 3DS release schedule, and I noticed Pikmin on the list which I had completely forgotten about. I'm shaking my damned head.

What's up with Nintendo and this franchise?

Two Pikmin games on the Gamecube that sold moderately well on the virtue of the franchise's novelty, then their re-releases on the Wii with motion control (lukewarm sales), and finally the Wii U release in 2013 that was supposed to be the console's first big release that didn't do squat for the platform.

My point is, had these sales happened to any other Nintendo franchise, it would have ended up in frozen stasis like Ice Climbers for 20 years. Just like what happened to Starfox, F-Zero, and what's happening right now with Metroid.

Nintendo has tried to force this series down their fans' throats for 15 years with re-releases, amiibos, little Pikmin plushies, all hoping it would catch fire like Pokemon or something but it isn't happening, Miyamoto. There's no reason why a series like Metroid, a more beloved and commercially successful franchise, is in coma while this flop of a series continues to hog up R&D resources and space. For their sake, I hope they don't release a title for the Switch hoping it's going to move units.
 
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The Lamp

Member
It's not my fault not enough people understand the glory of Pikmin. It's one of Miyamoto's best pet projects.

I demand Pikmin Switch.
 
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NotLiquid

Member
Pikmin is Miyamoto's baby. He's not going to let Nintendo drop the franchise as long as he's there.

That and we've had, what, 3 mainline entries in the last decade and a half? They're barely doing anything with it as is. How's that forcing it down our throat?
 
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OrbitalBeard

Member
You're acting is if the series hasn't been a moderate success for Nintendo and you would be wrong. It's obviously done well enough for the company to feel the need to continue investing in the IP. There have also only been three entries in around 15 and a half years. I'm really not seeing the issue here .
 
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Jonneh3003

Banned
Not every game is a system seller, Nintendo's first party games add value to the system and some exist just to be great (like Nintendo funding Bayonetta 2). The 3DS spin-off is exactly that, a spin-off. No need for Pikmin to go anywhere.

Plus didn't Pikmin 3 sell over a million copies?
 
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James Scott

Banned
Miyamoto, which is kind of important over there, really likes the franchise so he probably has a lot of say in it. I also imagine they're not too expensive to make.

That sidescrolling one that looks kind of bad and should be on mobile is probably the most questionable thing, though.
 
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RecRoulette

Member
There's no reason why a series like Metroid, a more beloved and commercially successful franchise, is in coma while this flop of a series continues to hog up R&D resources and space. For their sake, I hope they don't release a title for the Switch hoping it's going to move units.
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In a coma? They released a new Metroid last year?
 
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Zemm

Member
I'd rather have another Pikmin game than a Metroid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We can always have both though?
 
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Dystify

Member
One of my favorite series with a really great charm. Don't think any of them sold bad for Nintendo standards.

OrbitalBeard said:
You're acting is if the series hasn't been a moderate success for Nintendo and you would be wrong. It's obviously done well enough for the company to feel the need to continue investing in the IP.
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Well enough that there are two new games coming out in the franchise. :p
 
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Maximo

Member
The Horror the horror said:
I was looking at the 3DS release schedule, and I noticed Pikmin on the list which I had completely forgotten about. I'm shaking my damned head.

What's up with Nintendo and this franchise?

Two Pikmin games on the Gamecube that sold moderately well on the virtue of the franchise's novelty, then their re-releases on the Wii with motion control (lukewarm sales), and finally the Wii U release in 2013 that was supposed to be the console's first big release that didn't do squat for the platform.

My point is, had these sales happened to any other Nintendo franchise, it would have ended up in frozen stasis like Ice Climbers for 20 years. Just like what happened to Starfox, F-Zero, and what's happening right now with Metroid.

Nintendo has tried to force this series down their fans' throats for 15 years with re-releases, amiibos, little Pikmin plushies, all hoping it would catch fire like Pokemon or something but it isn't happening, Miyamoto. There's no reason why a series like Metroid, a more beloved and commercially successful franchise, is in coma while this flop of a series continues to hog up R&D resources and space. For their sake, I hope they don't release a title for the Switch hoping it's going to move units.
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RK128

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I disagree OP; Nintendo should let new installments in ALL of their IP happen, even if they don't set the world on fire.

Pikmin is Miyamoto's pet project series and is working on a fourth game (which entered development already, with no platform listed). A Switch Pikmin game IS happening, as is the 3DS Pikmin from the New Yoshi's Island team.

I would love Metroid, F-Zero, Mother and Star Tropics to get new installments but it shouldn't be at the expense of quality software not being made. Every franchise deserves a chance and Pikmin is one of those franchises.
 
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Makonero

Member
We need to let Metroid go. A few moderately successful entries on GameCube and Wii, and a bomb on 3DS. Gotta let go of that underselling and unpopular series for no reason!
 
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TheSpaceBetween

Member
So we're hoping Nintendo only releases games that are assured to sell millions? I don't get your logic. I for one am happy they are still willing to make games they know aren't huge sellers. The last thing we need is yet another awesome franchise to be abandoned because it didn't light the sales charts on fire. I for one am happy they're giving Pikmin the attention it deserves.
 
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phanphare

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Zemm said:
I'd rather have another Pikmin game than a Metroid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We can always have both though?
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you're probably going to get a lot of shit for this opinion but I completely agree

unless it's a 2D Metroid. that's my jam. the 3D ones are good, mind you, just not Pikmin good.
 
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qko

Member
It should just convert the Pikmin franchise into a Nintendo All Stars MOBA, where the little Pikmins are minions and you take control of a Champion of forgotten Nintendo Franchises
 
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Aaronrules380

Member
Pretty clear the op is just bitter the franchises he likes get less attention. Also funny because it fails to consider that the cost involved might differ from franchise to franchise
 
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Lord of Ostia

Member
What the he'll, OP? Pikmin is a great franchise that does well for Nintendo. There's really nothing else like it, and outside of the Wii re-releases you mentioned, Nintendo only released 3 games in the series which has been around for like 15 years. That is hardly running it into the ground. 3DS pikmin also looks different from the console versions considerably.
 
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Stopdoor

Member
I'm always baffled when people care more about companies making money rather than good games.

I can vaguely understand if you're feeling sore about Metroid though, OP. We've all been to that dark place, wondering what we can sacrifice to bring it back to us.
 
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Boem

Member
The Horror the horror said:
I was looking at the 3DS release schedule, and I noticed Pikmin on the list which I had completely forgotten about. I'm shaking my damned head.

What's up with Nintendo and this franchise?

Two Pikmin games on the Gamecube that sold moderately well on the virtue of the franchise's novelty, then their re-releases on the Wii with motion control (lukewarm sales), and finally the Wii U release in 2013 that was supposed to be the console's first big release that didn't do squat for the platform.

My point is, had these sales happened to any other Nintendo franchise, it would have ended up in frozen stasis like Ice Climbers for 20 years. Just like what happened to Starfox, F-Zero, and what's happening right now with Metroid.

Nintendo has tried to force this series down their fans' throats for 15 years with re-releases, amiibos, little Pikmin plushies, all hoping it would catch fire like Pokemon or something but it isn't happening, Miyamoto. There's no reason why a series like Metroid, a more beloved and commercially successful franchise, is in coma while this flop of a series continues to hog up R&D resources and space. For their sake, I hope they don't release a title for the Switch hoping it's going to move units.
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I mean I get being bummed about Metroid, but it's not like less Pikmin games translates into more Metroid games. Hell, there haven't been that many Pikmin games - just 3, some rereleases, and a smaller budget 3DS spinoff coming up. Considering how many Metroid/Starfox games there have been over the years (and how the sales of some of those games certainly haven't been impressive either), it only makes sense to focus on some other titles for a couple of years.

I mean, 3 games and a spinoff in 16 years isn't exactly overkill. Don't know where you're getting 'forcing it down our throats' from.

Let's not forget Pikmin 1 came out in 2001.
 
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fhqwhgads

Member
I knew before I clicked that this would be a salty Metroid fan thread.
Hate to break it to you but ritual sacrifice of a franchise won't bring another franchise back.
 
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WiiRevolution1

Member
The reason its not let go is because Pikmin is a personal favorite of Miyamoto, since its not a huge seller and noone else seems to want to work on it Miyamoto personally works on it so it keeps getting made. Same reason why Luigi's Mansion 2 was made. A fave and Miyamoto got someone to work on it. Which is why the upcoming Pikmin 3DS game is being made and after thats finish why more Pikmin games will be made.

If I was this legendary video game creator and had a personal favorite franchise that I loved I know I would do the same thing.

In other words, see the first post, :)
 
Kikorin

Kikorin

Member
Pikmin 3 is one of my favourite games on Wii U and my favourite entry in the series. It's an awesome game and with the last episode they found the right formula to go close to a masterpiece.

Give me Pikmin 4 with the same incredible level design of the third episode and the possibility to visit the levels also on night and I'll be happy forever.
 
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Vital Tundra

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I mean, the 3DS game doesn't look to great, but they all have been successes. Why end a franchise because it doesn't sell like Mario?
 
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