SoRuffShoNuff
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You wont be changing profiles as often as you gave squad commands in past games. If you are then you need to rethink which powers you have set to each profile.
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Mass Effect: Andromeda - Previews and hands-on impressions
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You wont be changing profiles as often as you gave squad commands in past games. If you are then you need to rethink which powers you have set to each profile.
Fair enough. The problem in Mass Effect 3 was that it was one of the major methods of acquiring a quest. It was used extensively. If it's only used rarely when it makes sense in the context, then that could be fine.
Collateral22
Member
There will be a 10 hour trial on Origin Access.
John Kowalski
Banned
I don't think they're issues at all. It's just combat skills, and being able to build custom skill sets seems a lot more interesting and involved than being fixed into a class through the whole game. The previous games had systems that would let you change class and rebuilt your stats at will, this is just iterating on that notion.
Moreover, whether it fixes your issues with it or not is still beside the point. Point is you don't ever have access to all the skills. You can have them, but you're limited in how you can use them. Which means that you can't "do it all", as you put it.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
While I don't disagree that the possibility is there to 'cover' most areas...I.e.
- one profile for armor-heavy enemy group
- one for shields
- one for all-out offense for huge health pools,
- and one other for maybe defense, or a ME2/3 class fantasy like charge+nova or Cloak+snipe
That still doesn't mean that some people will want to test out multiple combinations of powersets during a series of encounters, especially with different companion combinations.
This might raise some alarm bells with me too if Brad actually seemed like he knew what he was talking about for most of that preview. I found myself questioning whether he actually went to see the game.
He seemed like he was checked out. They all kind of did.
Remember when Rorie was surprised when they mentioned it was on Frostbite instead of Unreal?
callsignkrogan
Member
All I want to know is if beards are an option for the character creator like they were in DAI
I stopped watching completely after about half way in. It seemed like they had no idea what was going on.
I stopped watching completely after about half way in. It seemed like they had no idea what was going on.
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
Of course players will want to test out different combinations but once enough testing is done you should be able to know which profile you need for a given situation and squadmate setup. Once you have that figured out you shoudlnt need to flip between profiles as often as the guy did in the video.
It'll seem like 10 seconds.
I haven't decided whether to try to ration or splurge like a man possessed.
Sora the Cat
Member
Didn't know, thanks!
Mammoth Jones
Member
Yea. That shit was atrocious. Especially on multiple playthroughs. I was able to slog through it the first time. But holy hell it was really dragging on my 2nd playthrough.
I don't think I'll be able to tolerate "Do mundane fetch missions for no real reason in order to earn enough points to unlock an actual story quest" again.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The "quests" were bad but I never had issues w/ influence since I'd just pick a map I didn't play in a previous playthrough and explore it. Some of them even had a modicum of story to them.
It helped that I really enjoyed the gameplay.
Mammoth Jones
Member
Yea, I can see that.
But for me just randomly wondering around with no context isn't appealing. Especially in a game with such a horrible mini-map.
I'm currently trying to quest in the hissing wastes and it's like pulling teeth. Really hoping Andromeda doesn't reuse that formula.
CaptainSmirnov
Member
Very glad this is getting an origin trial. Hoping for PC but if it doesn't run well will stick to PS4 pro
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I really hope they don't as well. While I was able to enjoy DAI despite them I would never praise them for it. DAI had many wasted opportunities and misgivings that could have made it an all time great if averted.
I'm hoping that BioWare has learned lessons from all this. I can forgive some of the clunkiness of DA:I's open world mechanics because it really was their FIRST attempt to do an open world game, and they only had the GTA/Skyrim design philosophies to go by, which, themselves were also sometimes about randomly scattered collectathons and just doing repetitive things for no apparent reason.
Once Witcher 3 came out, standards changed, and in hindsight, it's easier to be harsher on DA:I in the shadow of Witcher 3, but I'm willing to give these guys a chance. BioWare still has some sharp writers, and their games are not riddled with flaws and bugs in the same way Bethesda games are, but we often forgive Bethesda games for that simply because of the sheer size.
If they can take away the constructive criticisms they received on DA:I and pair with it with all the constructive praise that Witcher 3 got, then we've got a decent experience on our hands. It's not long to wait and find out for ourselves now.
It's Frostbite, it'll run well
I thought about trying maybe 2 hours per day but then those 2 hours are going to feel like 2 minutes.
Sod that. There's no way I could NOT play those 10 hours in one session so unfortunately I can't allow myself to play the game during EA Access trial. Just a bit of CC and testing for performance.
I couldn't play 10 hours then not be able to play for 5 days.The components and minerals that seem to be scattered everywhere has me concerned. Press X to scan... every 20 feet!
If I survived Witcher 3 bazillion plants and random useless loot every 2 feet I'll survive Andromeda. At least it looks like the crafting tied to it is less boring than The Witcher 3 one so there's that.
I'll be completely honest, after the Mass Effect 3 fiasco I have less than zero interest in what the gaming media says about the game. Not only did they not recognise or acknowledge the unbelievably bad and insulting ending, they then actually mocked and ran stories attacking the fans who were upset.
I'm getting the game, but the gaming press's history with Mass Effect shows they just aren;t worth listening to at all.
I'm getting the game, but the gaming press's history with Mass Effect shows they just aren;t worth listening to at all.
SolicitorPirate
Member
Honestly, I agree with them. I thought the ending sucked, but fans acted like fucking children over it
5 years and it still cuts some people deep. crikey on a bikey
BioWare games have had abysmal side quest design for around a decade now and they're getting worse.
Just hope the critical path doesn't require too much content-padding "do X side quests to proceed" bullshit.
The hand-wringing over the ME3 ending is ridiculous. Any pretense of a coherent plot died in the opening five minutes of Mass Effect 2.
Just hope the critical path doesn't require too much content-padding "do X side quests to proceed" bullshit.
The hand-wringing over the ME3 ending is ridiculous. Any pretense of a coherent plot died in the opening five minutes of Mass Effect 2.
SolicitorPirate
Member
Used in the right context this kind of thing is fine if not cool. But if it's meant to be us doing fetch quest favors for everyone again yeah that's kind of ew.
How would you make it better?
The 'fans' were pathetic
I think the fact that there wasn't much meat to those quests was a much bigger issue than how you acquired them. They were mostly fetch quest with 2 lines of dialogues as rewards. A murder already sounds more interesting than most of ME3 tertiary content, we'll knows soon enough if it's actually the case.
Couldn't agree more. It wasn't a good ending, but most of the fan reaction didn't deserve anything more than mockery
eot
Banned
Eh, the press acted like children too. Go back and read/watch some of that content. Also, the people on BSN hardly represent everyone who disliked the ending.
My man.
Every gaming press who for some reason defended Bioware and that ending to their death while at the same time mocking those fans were just as pathetic.
Sterling's_Gold
Member
Heckler456
Banned
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
It's funny that the press pretty much acted like there was no reason to be mad at the end of Mass Effect 3 when in reality the entire story was horrendous. You'd have to be blind to not see that the story was a huge step down from 2, which was already hugely flawed.
I think what I've seen of Andromeda so far looks like it's gonna be just as bad, but in a different way. Laughable cutscenes and characters being released. Hopefully the combat will be fun (it doesn't look more fun than 1-3 so far, especially with AI squad control and different profiles), and the graphics are good, but I'm not enthused with the direction they're going at all. It feels even more like a corporate product than the series ever did before, and the premise is completely crazy. These guys are like, 620 years old and everyone they knew is dead. lol, ok.
Regardless of my personal critique, the hype for this game could be way higher than it is, and everyone knows it.
I think what I've seen of Andromeda so far looks like it's gonna be just as bad, but in a different way. Laughable cutscenes and characters being released. Hopefully the combat will be fun (it doesn't look more fun than 1-3 so far, especially with AI squad control and different profiles), and the graphics are good, but I'm not enthused with the direction they're going at all. It feels even more like a corporate product than the series ever did before, and the premise is completely crazy. These guys are like, 620 years old and everyone they knew is dead. lol, ok.
Regardless of my personal critique, the hype for this game could be way higher than it is, and everyone knows it.
I mean you don't HAVE to loot every plant and broken rake.