She literally has repeated things like "Make the economy work for everyone, not just those at the top", and "debt free college" and "profit sharing for employees" and "Paid family leave" and........she's had plenty of messages. All the media wanted to cover, was her emails, or Trump's controversial nonsense.
What would you suggest doing to earn their vote? Abortion is just too strong a wedge issue. A candidate could come out as the Antichrist himself and Evangelicals would say "well he's probably just joking, and he's anti-abortion, so I gotta vote for him."Let's give a pass to those delusional folks.
Wow. I'm shocked by your semi-admision of error. There's still hope.I still think the biggest mistake of all was nominating someone so disliked that it made Trump look okay by comparison. I thought Clinton would be stronger against Trump than Sanders but that was probably wrong.
You have to teach people to be able to evaluate what is real and what isn't. You have to create a society that values reason, facts, and evidence. This is not the case currently in the US.
Let's give a pass to those delusional folks.
I think we should do that and also make them face the bullshit they enabled with their actions. Shame them into not voting again is a positive for progressive causes.There's no other option, they're too brainwashed to be brought over. And they aren't needed to get back into power at the federal, state, and local level - Millenials, Gen Z, and Latinos are more than enough.
Fuck off with attack on religion. There are religious societies all over the world that don't do this shit
I think he's referring to the ones in the USA though. At least that's my impression by how he bounded his statement.Fuck off with attack on religion. There are religious societies all over the world that don't do this shit
I think we should do that and also make them face the bullshit they enabled with their actions. Shame them into not voting again is a positive for progressive causes.
Misinformed? Did Trump not run on building a wall and banning Muslims? Did I dream the last 8 months?
That's definitely where my ire is directed. I've traveled all over the world and never experienced the kind of hypocrisy that you typically see from most American "Christians". If Jesus came back today they'd most likely crucify him again for being a socialist liberal hippy.I think he's referring to the ones in the USA though. At least that's my impression by how he bounded his statement.
They are not misinformed. The data debunking that is all out there and easily accessible. They chose to not look or outright did not care.They are misinformed about "Mexicans" and "Muslims" being "bad" and "dangerous".
They are misinformed about whether either of those two policies is actually logical or effective.
Bigotry is a product of ignorance.
I know it's not fair to paint such broad strokes, but numbers like this only reinforce my view that religion is such poison, and should always be treated with severe disdain.
If you care you can find about that yourself and create a thread for the discussion of that.What was the turnout like among minorities?
He would be a fake Jesus?/alternative Jesus?/alt-left Jesus?That's definitely where my ire is directed. I've traveled all over the world and never experienced the kind of hypocrisy that you typically see from most American "Christians". If Jesus came back today they'd most likely crucify him again for being a socialist liberal hippy.
Considering how many state Republican parties were openly bragging about minority suppression I'm not even sure if that's a fair question to pose.If you care you can find about that yourself and create a thread for the discussion of that.
It's not. Minorities, the less empowered, apparently have the responsibility to save us all.Considering how many state Republican parties were openly bragging about minority suppression I'm not even sure if that's a fair question to pose.
Well from my own experience I've spoken to many white Christians who think they are the most persecuted group in the US. The Bible tells them they will be persecuted, so they must be. So any accusations of racism and sexism fall on deaf ears, because if it's not that bad for them, it can't be that bad for black people.
If you ask me, the deciding factor was the large proportion of undecideds last election, and they were probably swayed last minute by the last major news story right before the election being that bullshit letter from Comey.
They are misinformed about "Mexicans" and "Muslims" being "bad" and "dangerous".
They are misinformed about whether either of those two policies is actually logical or effective.
Bigotry is a product of ignorance.
What? Have they not studied the history of western Christainity? I can't believe this. How the hell are sermons actually going to help them? They aren't learning anything, it seems like the US churches are just a place to go and feel good for a couple of hours. You don't learn history, you don't learn real personal responsibility?
Living in a fantasy land is kind of another way of saying "too stupid to know they are being lied to"...and yeah, we all figured that out a while ago.
Fuck off with attack on religion. There are religious societies all over the world that don't do this shit
They have to assume it's wrong or inaccurate first. It doesn't matter how accessible data is if you think you already are informedThey are not misinformed. The data debunking that is all out there and easily accessible. They chose to not look or outright did not care.
what possible interest do those people have in voting for a party that constantly mocks and clearly despises them?Why is it that they could vote against their own interests when it's so obvious to anyone else?
Whether she had a message or not, it wasn't able to get through to anyone because all the media did was cover Trump and his message.
Being against abortions wins you a huge percentage of these voters. As long as the Republican party holds their current stance on the subject they will get these votes for free every election.
It's not. Minorities, the less empowered, apparently have the responsibility to save us all.