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PAL Charts - Week 8, 2017
- Thread starter Bruno MB
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Horizon Zero Dawn is being advertised on Buses. Games advertised on buses always do well - I expect Horizon to be Sony's biggest launch since Uncharted 4 and will take the top spot over Zelda.
DriftingSpirit
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I just think both can do very well and one selling less than the other isn't an indication of underperforming.
DriftingSpirit
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i don't think all that many Switch Early adopters are going to buy Zelda from the eshop, seeing as there's no preloading window, seeing as built in storage is rather limited, etc, and people being definitely more cautious about going digital on a Nintendo console than on the PS4.
Meh, i do feel like a the most hyped exclusive on a system with an install base of almost 60 million should easily outsell the launch title of a new console (+ whatever units they're gonna sell on Wii U, which i doubt will be many ... many of the Switch pre-orders are certainly former owners of a Wii U, thereby the install bases can't really be added due to the overlap)
So, while both games can do great and be considered 'succesfull', i feel Horizon should easily beat Zelda. It's a numbers game, really ... There's simply that many PS4s out there.
DriftingSpirit
Member
We're just talking about UK here. The 60M number is closer to worldwide figures.
Still, even if Horizon doesn't outsell Zelda, it shouldn't lead to posts about Horizon bombing, Horizon not being a system seller, Horizon not being a big game, etc... That is the stuff that is annoying.
Nah, I'm just saying they might not have much choice if they left the pretty order looking for deals. Amazon aren't delivering new orders on release, Argos have sold out and Game want £60. If someone's hoping to waltz in store and get one, they may have to choose between the eShop and staring at their new tablet.
Welfare
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Not sure if people actually expected something good for HW2. Console RTS is a dead genre for a reason. Halo Wars was the best selling console RTS ever with just above 2M sales. I would say though it is possible it had some success on PC/Xbox digital because of Play Anywhere but that won't be a lot.
Do we have an estimate for For Honor week 2 so we have a limit to what Halo Wars 2 launched at?
Do we have an estimate for For Honor week 2 so we have a limit to what Halo Wars 2 launched at?
I wasn't being entirely serious.
I do think it's notable when adverts are on buses though. For some reason, to me it feels like that's one of the few traditional spots for advertising, that only in the last few years, games have become culturally significantly enough to utilise.
Sony are advertising Horizon heavily and I get a sense that they expect/hope that it will push through into the mainstream like Uncharted did.
I do think it's notable when adverts are on buses though. For some reason, to me it feels like that's one of the few traditional spots for advertising, that only in the last few years, games have become culturally significantly enough to utilise.
Sony are advertising Horizon heavily and I get a sense that they expect/hope that it will push through into the mainstream like Uncharted did.
If bus ads can lead Britain out of the EU, then they can Horizon lead to the top of the charts, too.
£50 for Horizon? Why not give it to the NHS instead since we're not fucking bothering. You might need it one day.
Pankratous
Member
Horizon looks great and will sell well but if you think it will outsell Zelda, you are crazy.
Installed base. The PS4s is huge, and no one even knows how many Switch will be available for the UK market.
So yes, Horizon will sell more, much more.
Acquiescence
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I think Horizon's gonna take the top spot next week, but Zelda will have the longer legs. There's my in-depth analysis right there.
You're talking about first weeks sales (results = next week), right?
nephilimdj
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This and the censored GX video after it were cool to watch
Zelda's attach rate for Switch will probably be like 80% combined with Wii U sales are what I think will put it on top.
In any case, I think it'll be tight race between both games and naturally both will sell gangbusters.
Thanks for this Bruno.
I think 90-100k will happen for the Switch, because it will be a bit supply constrained at launch.
Katana_Strikes
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Definitely a slow week when Charttrack just wants to talk about next week.
Halo Wars is a poor debut. Seemingly well under the originals.
But yeah next week is interesting for various reasons. Seeing how well Switch games fare and certainly outside of Zelda and 1-2 Switch what will sell. Just how many consoles were shipped/sold first week and in comparison to other hardware. Then of course Horizon vs Zelda.
Bring it on!
Halo Wars is a poor debut. Seemingly well under the originals.
But yeah next week is interesting for various reasons. Seeing how well Switch games fare and certainly outside of Zelda and 1-2 Switch what will sell. Just how many consoles were shipped/sold first week and in comparison to other hardware. Then of course Horizon vs Zelda.
Bring it on!
Hmm that's crazy close to UC4's 180k debut if I remember correctly.
Don't see that many UK PS4 owners flocking in numbers like that to an untested new IP even with all the positive wom.
I think it'll be more around 120k mark or a little below.
Nightengale
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Do we know how many wiiUs are there estimated in the U.K. market right now?
OfficerRaichu15
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I'm gonna guess 70k Switch and 55k Zelda cause I think it'll do better than Wii U.
HoRizon I guess will be 95k
Edit: lowering Switch to 60k and Zelda 45k
HoRizon I guess will be 95k
Edit: lowering Switch to 60k and Zelda 45k
This makes me think Horizon will outsell Zelda, what with the numbers for No Man's Sky and all. There might not be the same crazy hype as there was with NMS, but I think it's comparable.
I think it was posted in this thread For Honor was biggest launch since NMS which was 110K and had a 72% drops so it's less than 33K so Halo Wars 2 is <33K
NMS~110K
I guess the question is if Nintendo can conceivably sell 100k Switches or not day 1. I doubt many will be getting one without Zelda. "Oh hey guys, have you seen 1-2 Switch? WHERE ARE MY CARD DETAILS?!"
Yeah, first time in a while for some interesting charts!
ethomaz
Banned
This is retail so 100k Switch won't show 100k Zelda even if you exclude non-Zelda buyers.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
I think Twilight Princess at 70k right?
Or did Skyward Sword beat it?
Also y'all very optimistic about the Switch doing 100k I wouldn't even be surprised if it does half of that(hope In wrong but wouldn't be surprised).
Yeah, I was more thinking 30k Wii U to make up the 30% too, but then I remembered the Wii U install base....
Acquiescence
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Doubt it. Could be wrong, but if memory serves Skyward Sword actually underperformed a fair bit in the UK. Making the Wii MotionPlus a compulsory purchase didn't help matters.
They can't. The Switch hype is nowhere near the hype of the Wii, and it costs more. Even if they matched Wii sales, 95% of users would need to pick up Zelda. There'll be a very high attach rate, but it's not gonna happen.
OfficerRaichu15
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Is it wrong to assume that I have a feeling Zelda BOTW may do similar? :/
ethomaz
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Well it is not wrong to feel that but there are two version: Wii U and Switch.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-02-27-for-honor-holds-off-halo-wars-2-in-uk-charts
I'm pretty sure game will fall pretty fast out of the charts like Quantum Break.
Thx. Yeah I don't think BOTW is going to hit 100K which is probably the bare minimum required to beat Horizon, unless we are all overestimating demand for Horizon.
DriftingSpirit
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I'm thinking of something like ~120K for Horizon. Expecting a headline like, "Sony and GG reach new horizons".
get2sammyb
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There's no way Horizon outsells Zelda. Like, both are going to do very well, and Horizon has been wonderfully marketed, but even though the PS4 install base is massive, this game won't necessarily appeal to everyone that owns the console.
Meanwhile, practically everyone that gets a Switch will be getting Zelda, and a reasonable proportion of Wii U owners will get it, too.
I think we should be looking to high numbers for both games, which is good stuff.
Meanwhile, practically everyone that gets a Switch will be getting Zelda, and a reasonable proportion of Wii U owners will get it, too.
I think we should be looking to high numbers for both games, which is good stuff.