Your reads and opinions seems really weak (a lot of low activity. Not much proding). Not mine of you.
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Your reads and opinions seems really weak (a lot of low activity. Not much proding). Not mine of you.
Re: Crab + train.
TheWorthyEdge - Notable that his d1 vote on Bronx was made at #221. He also is a complete non-entity until day two. Day two only gets slightly better. Shows interest in Bronx and chooses to give him a day or so. Does a very strange vote on Stan and speculates about some scum plan that he never explains afaik. Shows suspicion about Swampeds claim. Uses the inactives are not scum defense, what I disagree with. The reasoning behind his vote for Crab is not well explained and feels like scum picking up a single contradiction in Crabs posts and going with it. Oh and the vote kinda comes out of nowhere since TWE posts so little.
Scummiest so far.
In the end you chose Crab. Why? And please offer reads / opinions / something new.
TheWorthyEdge - Notable that his d1 vote on Bronx was made at #221. He also is a complete non-entity until day two. Day two only gets slightly better. Shows interest in Bronx and chooses to give him a day or so. Does a very strange vote on Stan and speculates about some scum plan that he never explains afaik. Shows suspicion about Swampeds claim. Uses the inactives are not scum defense, what I disagree with. The reasoning behind his vote for Crab is not well explained and feels like scum picking up a single contradiction in Crabs posts and going with it. Oh and the vote kinda comes out of nowhere since TWE posts so little.
Scummiest so far.
In the end you chose Crab. Why? And please offer reads / opinions / something new.
Hey hody hey ladies and gentlemen. Just got done driving from Dallas to Houston. I know...inexcusable.
This week is jam packed with a vacation for me. Headed to Arizona. Will be here for most of tomorrow and Monday (when I'm not the one driving).
I see I have some votes on me and I read as too why. My explanation for not being active sounded silly 🤡 and scummy to some. Okay. Don't expect everyone to be happy about it. It's not like me playing now takes place in a different time then me playing then. Time doesn't change.
Curious as to why the eff Nin was poisoned and why the eff is Bronx alive? Do we know explicitly that there is a poisoner going around? Do we have actual concrete evidence that someone is indeed poisoned or has been? It's essentially a whole game of "what if...'s" so imma put out a "what if".
What if: there is no poisoner? What if: there is no poisonee? What if: this is a highly elaborate scheme by the Mafia and people are getting "poisoned" to make them seem like they're town?
Stanley was poisoned 2 nights ago (?) and he's not dead for 2 reasons:
- Bronx cured him!- Stanley was never poisoned!!! 😲you go Bronx!
Bronx claims he's the poison doctor!!and he's not deadddd(???) for 2 reasons:why tho
- Scum is dumb
- Bronx IS Scum and not a Dr. 😰
BUT WAIT?! Nin is poisoned now. What zee eff? Why tho? Because maybe...he's scum?
Disclaimer:maybe none of this is true and it's just a filler post
WHADDYA SAY?!?!?
Honestly. The biggest mystery now is how tf is Bronx still alive and Kalor (who is just...idk) is dead? Would've been an incredible night for Scum if they killed Bronx. Because then if he was the poison docteur than everyone that gets poisoned would die...
There is no conclusion in this post. You brought up various possibilities about the poisoning already on day two. You did not conclude anything back then either. I feel that you are just commenting on the topic of the day to seem present.
in general id like to remind everyone how we totally learned something from giving bronx a day
mmhmm
what a great argument that was
or maybe you were all americans and were echoing your president and meant it metaphorically and the learning comes some day in the future
surely
/rant
mmhmm
what a great argument that was
or maybe you were all americans and were echoing your president and meant it metaphorically and the learning comes some day in the future
surely
/rant
YesNOnoNOYes
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DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
TheWorthyEdge (2)
Burbeting 2284
Lone_Prodigy 2286
Swamped (1)
Sorian 2266
acohrs (1)
flatearthpandas 2293
CCS (1)
StanleyPalmtree 2390
Bronx-Man (0):acohrs 2250 2360
No active vote for Day 3: *Splinter, acohrs (has previously voted), Blargonaut, Bronx-Man, CCS, Faddy, franconp, Gorlak, Kawl_USC, Kyanrute, nin1000, Swamped, TheWorthyEdge, Verelios, WhereAreMahDragonz
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
TheWorthyEdge (2)
Burbeting 2284
Lone_Prodigy 2286
Swamped (1)
Sorian 2266
acohrs (1)
flatearthpandas 2293
CCS (1)
StanleyPalmtree 2390
Bronx-Man (0):
No active vote for Day 3: *Splinter, acohrs (has previously voted), Blargonaut, Bronx-Man, CCS, Faddy, franconp, Gorlak, Kawl_USC, Kyanrute, nin1000, Swamped, TheWorthyEdge, Verelios, WhereAreMahDragonz
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I'm not here to prod.
Who voted crab?
Bronx: He voted Crab D1. I don't see any reasoning. It's a bandwagon vote deluxe, the preceeding posts are hilarious:
Later there are some accusations/reasons: 1527, 1603, 1831
While I partly agree on the last post (crab being desperate). I disagree about the part concerning Bronx himself.
Verdict: scummy
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Swamped: Voted Crab both days, was in thunderdome, gave a lengthier post, explaining her view.
This was shortly after Bronx' vote. She seems to be somewhat disconnected from the current events at that time. The "I could definitely be wrong part" is kindy odd and weakening her own stance.
Considering the end of day 1 I can understand why she'd focus on Crab first, especially with Crab's opening of D2. So I'm on the fence here... hm, I still read her as a frustrated townie trying to explain herself.
Verdict: townie
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Faddy: Around the time when Crab got a few votes on him, half a day after dr. bronx claim. Not really explaining himself, actually questions CCS and brings up the two as possible scum mates. Claims to have a "strong lead" 1573 on crab/ccs as scummates and to immediatly tunnel Crab. 1581
All I see is a theory about CCS being scum if Crab is scum. No read on Crab or explanation.
Verdict: scummy
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Blarg: ... I don't know what to make of Blarg most of the time, his votes seem erratic, causing mischief for the fun of it at time, this one was to provoke Crab, I think? 6.5 hours before deadline.
Woops, look at that Blarg explaining himself thoroughly. I'm impressed, even more so because I read Crab's actions in a similar way, with the small caveat that Blarg's conclusion differed from mine. He actually even considered the real scenario. Him still voting Crab reads as the opposite of being risk averse, which is what Blarg is known for - no matter the alignment.
Verdict: townie
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Nin: Two minutes after Blarg's vote. Classical nin explanation -
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TWE: 5 hours before the clock, putting Crab at 6. Is suspicious of Crab for feeling out on Vere/Faddy. Talks about his own vote. Claiming it to be an easy vote to hide behind. So he puts thought to how he appears, this is noteable.
Verdict: odd
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Verelios: The post after TWE. Is in full confront Kyan mode, makes out a connection between Crab and Kyan. He claims to have scumread Crab since D1... [writing this post took longer than expected, Vere can you please point at where you did so to save me some work...] He had 3 votes on himself and maybe felt the need to save himself?
Verdict: pending
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Gorlak: 3.5 hours before deadline, read is here, vote is here
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Shortly after Crab votes himself.
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With Crab changing his vote late, the tally was at 8-8 - two minutes before the deadline. Splinter, Sorian and LP - all three of them - vote Crab to prevent a tie. I'll look at them closer later. This, the missing look into earlier posts from Verelios and a round-up are coming in a few hours.
Bronx: He voted Crab D1. I don't see any reasoning. It's a bandwagon vote deluxe, the preceeding posts are hilarious:
Shortly after he claimed poison doc, he places his vote while everyone is busy discussing the claim. See here
Later there are some accusations/reasons: 1527, 1603, 1831
While I partly agree on the last post (crab being desperate). I disagree about the part concerning Bronx himself.
Verdict: scummy
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Swamped: Voted Crab both days, was in thunderdome, gave a lengthier post, explaining her view.
This was shortly after Bronx' vote. She seems to be somewhat disconnected from the current events at that time. The "I could definitely be wrong part" is kindy odd and weakening her own stance.
Considering the end of day 1 I can understand why she'd focus on Crab first, especially with Crab's opening of D2. So I'm on the fence here... hm, I still read her as a frustrated townie trying to explain herself.
Verdict: townie
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Faddy: Around the time when Crab got a few votes on him, half a day after dr. bronx claim. Not really explaining himself, actually questions CCS and brings up the two as possible scum mates. Claims to have a "strong lead" 1573 on crab/ccs as scummates and to immediatly tunnel Crab. 1581
All I see is a theory about CCS being scum if Crab is scum. No read on Crab or explanation.
Verdict: scummy
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Blarg: ... I don't know what to make of Blarg most of the time, his votes seem erratic, causing mischief for the fun of it at time, this one was to provoke Crab, I think? 6.5 hours before deadline.
Woops, look at that Blarg explaining himself thoroughly. I'm impressed, even more so because I read Crab's actions in a similar way, with the small caveat that Blarg's conclusion differed from mine. He actually even considered the real scenario. Him still voting Crab reads as the opposite of being risk averse, which is what Blarg is known for - no matter the alignment.
Verdict: townie
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Nin: Two minutes after Blarg's vote. Classical nin explanation -
Verdict: not alignment indicative
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TWE: 5 hours before the clock, putting Crab at 6. Is suspicious of Crab for feeling out on Vere/Faddy. Talks about his own vote. Claiming it to be an easy vote to hide behind. So he puts thought to how he appears, this is noteable.
Verdict: odd
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Verelios: The post after TWE. Is in full confront Kyan mode, makes out a connection between Crab and Kyan. He claims to have scumread Crab since D1... [writing this post took longer than expected, Vere can you please point at where you did so to save me some work...] He had 3 votes on himself and maybe felt the need to save himself?
Verdict: pending
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Gorlak: 3.5 hours before deadline, read is here, vote is here
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Shortly after Crab votes himself.
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With Crab changing his vote late, the tally was at 8-8 - two minutes before the deadline. Splinter, Sorian and LP - all three of them - vote Crab to prevent a tie. I'll look at them closer later. This, the missing look into earlier posts from Verelios and a round-up are coming in a few hours.
I don't know how I feel about this or the excuse that you meant Kawl.
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As for top town and top scum, I still think Swamped is scum for the reasons I've listed. Blarg is also likely scum, by this stage in the game he's usually done something, made some strong read, it's just not the case here, he doesn't care (even that's a little odd, I'd believe neutral too which is problematic in this game). TWE, Faddy, WAMD, and to a lesser extent Acohrs and Verelios bother me as well.
Town reads are a bit harder for me in this game. I do town read Splinter on just gut read. Fran seems good as well, I did find him the sketchier of the two day 1 from him vs. Faddy but it's been the opposite since then. Gorlak has also come out hot, I feel like he's put in a lot of work, more than scum would bother with though he has been following a fine line between analyzing and summarizing so I don't give as much credit here.
Re: rapujuna.
Verelios - Oh this one. Well this rustled my jimmies somewhat. Veres vote comes as a reaction to my post about me finding Vere scummy. Vere votes for Crab, says I am speaking garbage and accuses of me being scum. Vere did mention his Crab scum read multiple times before his vote so the vote does not come out of the blue. To the issues.
1. His vote post is strangely aggressive. I still stand by my critisism that I presented, he did certainly not do much scum hunting during day two. He did not encage the scum suspects that he presented on day one that much. And of course, there are the weird bits where he seems to be certain that Crab and I are in cahoots. Going for me and Crab does fit the scum reads he did present previously, yes. My issue was with the timing and the manner of the hunt, why did Verelios do so little before the light was shone on him?
2. His lack of cooperation. I did give him a single post before I judged that he wasnt interested in a real discussion. I still would be interested in the posts what show that, and I quote: and have at least gone through with questioning my scum leads more than your shit posts. I dont see the posts.
3. Offense is the best defense. During the great elegant argument we had Vere did not really bother defending himself. Instead, he did his best to discredit me. Obfuscation, avoidance. Outright lies or mistakes at best.
4. My vote on squid. Remember, Vere said that he did work on his scum reads. I feel that upon hearing this it would be fair to expect that he knows what kind of reasoning his scum suspects use to justify their votes. 1st in #2083 he claims that my reasoning behind the squid vote was fuck inactives. Then in #2089 doubles down on the previous claim and adds that my intention behind my vote was to steer the lynch away from Crab (how exactly did I steer the lynch away with a vote on a new target instead of strengthening any of the existing lynches). After I quote the post where I explained my vote, he then claims that he saw the post and the reasoning in it was shit. After I point out how Vere keeps on changing what my reasoning behind my vote was, Vere calls my argument invalid. The same argument that was fuck inactives at one point is now invalid. Huh. He sure keeps up with his scum reads.
Did I not explain my vote at the time I did it? I did not. But why does Verelios need to go through all that mess to realize that? Didnt he say that he has pursued his leads to the best of his ability? Why does the tale keep changing?
Vere voters from yesterday (others can offer their opinions as well ofc), are you interested in Vere lynch today?
oh and vere am i scum
Verelios - Oh this one. Well this rustled my jimmies somewhat. Veres vote comes as a reaction to my post about me finding Vere scummy. Vere votes for Crab, says I am speaking garbage and accuses of me being scum. Vere did mention his Crab scum read multiple times before his vote so the vote does not come out of the blue. To the issues.
1. His vote post is strangely aggressive. I still stand by my critisism that I presented, he did certainly not do much scum hunting during day two. He did not encage the scum suspects that he presented on day one that much. And of course, there are the weird bits where he seems to be certain that Crab and I are in cahoots. Going for me and Crab does fit the scum reads he did present previously, yes. My issue was with the timing and the manner of the hunt, why did Verelios do so little before the light was shone on him?
2. His lack of cooperation. I did give him a single post before I judged that he wasnt interested in a real discussion. I still would be interested in the posts what show that, and I quote: and have at least gone through with questioning my scum leads more than your shit posts. I dont see the posts.
3. Offense is the best defense. During the great elegant argument we had Vere did not really bother defending himself. Instead, he did his best to discredit me. Obfuscation, avoidance. Outright lies or mistakes at best.
4. My vote on squid. Remember, Vere said that he did work on his scum reads. I feel that upon hearing this it would be fair to expect that he knows what kind of reasoning his scum suspects use to justify their votes. 1st in #2083 he claims that my reasoning behind the squid vote was fuck inactives. Then in #2089 doubles down on the previous claim and adds that my intention behind my vote was to steer the lynch away from Crab (how exactly did I steer the lynch away with a vote on a new target instead of strengthening any of the existing lynches). After I quote the post where I explained my vote, he then claims that he saw the post and the reasoning in it was shit. After I point out how Vere keeps on changing what my reasoning behind my vote was, Vere calls my argument invalid. The same argument that was fuck inactives at one point is now invalid. Huh. He sure keeps up with his scum reads.
Did I not explain my vote at the time I did it? I did not. But why does Verelios need to go through all that mess to realize that? Didnt he say that he has pursued his leads to the best of his ability? Why does the tale keep changing?
Vere voters from yesterday (others can offer their opinions as well ofc), are you interested in Vere lynch today?
oh and vere am i scum
I thought Crab was scum, why change my vote from my scum read vote leader to someone else? That is the exact thing I gave CCS shit for.
Hmm vote leader, makes sense. The second question?
Day 1: His abrasive posts after he ghosted 48 hours of play, his assertion he changed the tone of the thread, the way his day 1 wagon collapsed.
Day 2: The large parts of his huge post 1717 that we're untrue and seemed twisted, his maths explainer for why he couldn't be scum, his self vote
Yes I voted Crab early to see what CCS would do but I had loads of good reasons to feel that Crab was scum right up until the end of the day.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
You mean Bronx should have waited until day 3 to claim?
Possibly but the perhaps the whole point of Bronx claim was so he didn't get lynched on day 2.
If the whole thing was planned in advance surely he would have known not to claim immediately after Stan and for no reason.
Sorry for not saying much, been out all today. To be honest I don't have much to add at the moment, my top suspects are still Swamped and Verelios and nothing has happened to dissuade me from lynching one of those.
Apart from that we're a bit short on leads... There is the poisoner thing that I'd prefer another day or 2 of info on, and a mess of inactives/low contributors that are going to be hard to pick between.
Apart from that we're a bit short on leads... There is the poisoner thing that I'd prefer another day or 2 of info on, and a mess of inactives/low contributors that are going to be hard to pick between.
Except there was no indication at that point that he was going to be the lynch. Like he was a possibility but why not wait and see how the day goes a bit? That's the issue. And he had such a fuck of attitude about it too.
You had already voted for him!
lol, how would he be confirmed? Compare with today, what exactly would be different tomorrow if both nin and bronx survive?
...That 3 people shouldn't be colluding unless they're on the same team? That there's a poisoner? That Scum wouldn't want to put all three out there, and yes, two of them might be neutrals but to have all three be a neutral team is a stretch.
And? We were like 2 hours into the day and other people had votes too.
Again, a NK wouldn't stop a theoretical poison cure.
Well, we can possibly rule out Bronx working with Stan and nin. Yet a scenario with scum poisoner and scum holding back the first poisoning isn't off the tabel at all.
What I was asking is: How would Bronx be confirmed as the poison doctor in any way tomorrow? If both survive we are in exactly the same spot as today with nothing changed. All too much speculation.
Verelios what do you think of Kyan after crab's flip? You voiced your theory of them working together pretty clearly yesterday.
Vote: *Splinter
I've had a feeling before, but you being satisfied with this slow phase of the game is very concerning. Even if you are convinced of your top suspects as scum, you usually would dwelve into the fray and look for further frictions by anyone. You seem to be very reactive today, not a good look on you.
There's no sure way to confirm if Bronx is the PD before he flips, it's just that the chances increase more with each person poisoned that they're telling the truth.
I'm not ashamed to say I was wrong about Crab yesterday because I was, though I do still think Kyan is scum from his play day 1 and 2 and Crab was looking for alternatives to save himself.
I'm pretty sure if it goes up to 2 or more people claiming they've been poisoned would confirm I am in fact, town. We're already at 2 right now, and I can't imagine 5 or more all colluding to make some grand scheme like this.
Specifics?
That doesn't prove you are town, it proves you aren't working with a team. Your play still reeks of something else.
re: crab voters
Verelios: His only stated read of crab: #1130. This was D1, when Crab was vote leader back then. No follow up, only crab lynch would be okay.
I didn't find any significant post concerning Crab D2 before his vote or crab's self-vote. This is a very thin basis on which he voted Crab.
In regards to his vote I'd say it's more on the scummy side.
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Scum probably wanted Crab to be lynched. Last minute vote on Crab to garuantee that is suspicious. All three say it was to prevent a tie, but Verelios was at the exact same number of votes.
Sorian was the only one to announce voting for crab if need be. Reason: "to not let crab decide this lynch" ~ which is interesting after he defended Crab openly. And doesn't quite add up.
LP basically started the bandwagon on Verelios with his vote, after saying he sees Crab in a similar situation he was in before. He was one of the enablers of the Verelios upswing and I see his late change as way less suspicious.
Splinter wants Crab to claim in order to maybe vote Verelios, 1.5 hours earlier he was okay with a Vere lynch, in that same post he said he's concerned in regards to Crab. hmm. No claim so he moves his vote to Crab. why though?
Verelios: His only stated read of crab: #1130. This was D1, when Crab was vote leader back then. No follow up, only crab lynch would be okay.
I didn't find any significant post concerning Crab D2 before his vote or crab's self-vote. This is a very thin basis on which he voted Crab.
In regards to his vote I'd say it's more on the scummy side.
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Scum probably wanted Crab to be lynched. Last minute vote on Crab to garuantee that is suspicious. All three say it was to prevent a tie, but Verelios was at the exact same number of votes.
Sorian was the only one to announce voting for crab if need be. Reason: "to not let crab decide this lynch" ~ which is interesting after he defended Crab openly. And doesn't quite add up.
LP basically started the bandwagon on Verelios with his vote, after saying he sees Crab in a similar situation he was in before. He was one of the enablers of the Verelios upswing and I see his late change as way less suspicious.
Splinter wants Crab to claim in order to maybe vote Verelios, 1.5 hours earlier he was okay with a Vere lynch, in that same post he said he's concerned in regards to Crab. hmm. No claim so he moves his vote to Crab. why though?
You never let people decide their own lynch. It provides no information. This shouldn't be a shocker to you. I'm not omnipotent, just because I thought Crab was town doesn't mean I couldn't be wrong, I'm not letting someone I am not 100% about have control over their own fate.
Sorian, where's your confidence? You being wrong?
So what do you make of LP's and Splinter's late vote?
Round up:
Ah, Splinter gave an explanation I was seeking for in 2261. I'm hesistant to believe him on that, hmm, I'm starting to tunnel I think. This post is reasonable, yet I see nothing a scum! splinter wouldn't pull. Best to step back a moment.
I don't consider to vote Sorian at this point. His reasoning is solid.
So of the remaining voters I say the most suspicious are Faddy and Bronx with Verelios coming third. Faddy definitely deserves a closer look from me just now.
So what do you make of LP's and Splinter's late vote?
Round up:
Ah, Splinter gave an explanation I was seeking for in 2261. I'm hesistant to believe him on that, hmm, I'm starting to tunnel I think. This post is reasonable, yet I see nothing a scum! splinter wouldn't pull. Best to step back a moment.
I don't consider to vote Sorian at this point. His reasoning is solid.
So of the remaining voters I say the most suspicious are Faddy and Bronx with Verelios coming third. Faddy definitely deserves a closer look from me just now.
Why must he be town?
Make of it what you will but Splinter was the deciding vote. L_P's is whatever he posted within about 10 seconds of me so him claiming he was trying to avoid tie shenanigans makes complete sense. Crab refusing to claim and voting himself an hour or so before deadline did make him seem extremely scummy, enough so that I was doubting more than normal so Splinter flattering isn't surprising even if I hope he hadnt.
Also yes, har har Sorian bolster is fun but I just wasn't understanding the logic people were trying to apply to a scum Crab. I was town reading him on the basis that he hadn't done anything scummy.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I am fine with lynching CCS, Vere, or Acorn this day phase.
Scum:
CCS
Acorn
TWE
Faddy
FEP
Stan (assuming poisoner is, in fact, neutral)
Fran
Null:
Gorlak
Sorian
Splinter (with slight scum lean)
Swamped (also slight scum lean)
LP
Nin
Town:
Kawl
Kyan
Fran
Bronx (with Stan being cured I'm more inclined to believe him)
???:
Blarg
Did I miss anyone
Scum:
CCS
Acorn
TWE
Faddy
FEP
Stan (assuming poisoner is, in fact, neutral)
Fran
Null:
Gorlak
Sorian
Splinter (with slight scum lean)
Swamped (also slight scum lean)
LP
Nin
Town:
Kawl
Kyan
Fran
Bronx (with Stan being cured I'm more inclined to believe him)
???:
Blarg
Did I miss anyone
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Oops I accidentally put Fran twice
He's a scum read the formatting was weird, sorry
He's a scum read the formatting was weird, sorry
Finally, something I can actually reply to! This is Splinter's post from the end of D2.
1. The fact is, I simply did know it was going to be me. Call it persecution complex...but I thought that Scum!Crab would want to get a bandwagon on me, and with his pull it would be pretty easy.
2. Nope, you have misunderstood the timeline of events. My first vote on him on D1 had nothing to do with my later read on him, and my re-vote for him on D1. You were paying attention to all this on D1, you should know better than to make this argument. And I already explained the reason for my first D1 vote on Crab - it's the same reason people vote for Blargonaut before he's even posted in the thread - it's fun to call out a 'celebrity'.
The scum-read came from when Crab finally entered the thread and made general posts about how to play mafia, and I read his frustration as false concern for town. This made me scum-read him, and everything he did subsequently I saw through scum-glasses. His reasoning for voting for me screamed of 'I'm just trying to find arbitrary reasons to lynch someone'. Obviously I was wrong, and he really was scum-reading me. But that's not how I saw it at the time.
3. You brought up this Verelios thing several times on D2, and it is really such a stretch.
4. Ok, many people have said I am 'under the radar' (I think Kawl was one of them). HOW ON EARTH IS THIS TRUE??? If I was trying to play 'under the radar' would I honestly kick the hornets' nest by voting for Crab on D1 and D2 as well? Would I town-read Faddy, even though everyone and their mother scum-reads him? Can someone give detailed examples of how my reads are under the radar?
5. The last point is referring to the votes on D1. There was no saving anyone with those votes. The top three were all town (Crab, Squidy and me). Scum didn't have to do much work on D1.
This is in response to my Commuter claim. Well, I stand by my reasoning. I believe in using powers early. In the first Gafia game Rats was an x-shot doctor and used his power on N1 on himself even though he was not universally town-read at all. But we (the scum team) tried killing him anyway, thinking he might be a power role. We never got over that lack of a kill from N1. So I thought using my power N1 was a good idea. And who's to say the scum team don't have other powers that they could have used to target me?
Just wanted to point out that Splinter wanted to lynch Kalor on D2. Not sure if this is important, but wanted to draw attention to it. Kalor died N2, which is still an extremely odd NK. I understand why they might want to keep Bronx alive. Maybe they thought Kalor had a power due to his generally quiet play.
What's your read of CCS? It sounds like you are leaning scum on him.
If you are scum-reading Blarg, why is Sorian's D2 vote on Blarg so bad?
This post explains your vote change pretty well.
???
What's with this defensive reply? What did I supposedly not read? I simply asked for your read on Splinter because I hadn't seen that from you on D3 yet. You gave it after, so I don't get where this frustration comes from?
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More to come, sorry I was so busy this weekend. During N2 I felt like Splinter might be scum. I'll give specific examples about why, but it's mostly because he reads of Crab and me felt wishy-washy upon a re-read of D2. But his explanation for his last minute vote change was ok. I still want to post my thoughts about him though.
Also, more to come on Blargonaut.
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I'm leaning town on LP, I think his D3 posts have been pretty good. I particularly agree that there is not much point in discussing the whole poison situation, and I feel like this is 'fake' discussion that scum can get into to look like they are town-like.
Burb feels pretty good to me as well.
Kyan surprisingly feels town as well.
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I disagree with CCS and Faddy, but the bolded three are really interesting reads. Could you elaborate a little bit? To me Stan and FEP have done hardly anything to indicate alignment one way or another.
Do you have Burb in your list?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
That's the problem. My gut tells me they're just coasting. I'd put them in the null category if their posts were actually enlightening and contributing to the discussion in a positive way, but they aren't. I can't remember a single read that either one of them had that made me go "shit, that's a really good point, I should look into that"
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
And yes, I know, I'm being a dirty hypocrite. Whatever
That's interesting, is there a reason you put FEP up as scum Dragonz?
Realized this after. What if they're just coasting town?
flatearthpandas
Member
Okay, all caught up. Been a busy-ish weekend, sorry. Seems like we lost quite a bit of momentum here.
I am still voting on acohrs because nothing has really changed in my opinion from my opinion on him yesterday. Not because of his shit posts, but because of his posts that are supposed to be contributive. They all ring false to me 100%. I see I'm not the only one looking at him now, but I think he was pretty comfortable before while CCS got to take the flak off of him by being the suspicious one between them to everyone.
Otherwise, I expected a bit more from Sorian overall. Crab came in and got the town jacked and active in short order. Of course we're all responsible for the state of the town, but we're not all proven at being able to get town active.
Kyanrute is jacking up the post count with a single subject and nothing all that illumination imo. And let's not forget the shitposts. Stands out but not in a good way.
Bronx and the poisoner. This whole thing as a scum gambit seems insane. I would believe the poisoner being either neutral or scum. Bronx being alive might suggest neutral but there's some wifom there. What I do have to say about Bronx is that as of now I believe him unless I can be convinced it is a gambit. Claiming so early on D2 left a real poison doctor tons of time to counter him. Saving the claim for the last hour if he was actually on the chopping block would have given him decent odds of not having a real counter present if it was a fake claim.
Burb was rubbing me wrong yesterday but looking at the votes I feel better about him. He and Kalor were firing at each other but Burb actually jumped off of that to jump onto Verelios. He didn't have to do that, I think he and Kalor could have kept up their no traction stand off without raising too many eyebrows and Burb chose a decent target even if it still wasn't all that useful. Post-wise still don't care for him an awful lot but I can hardly complain there.
Verelios is kind of the opposite. I have a good gut feeling about him but I'm not terribly impressed with what I see in the votes. Going to re-examine day end and touch back on this later.
I am still voting on acohrs because nothing has really changed in my opinion from my opinion on him yesterday. Not because of his shit posts, but because of his posts that are supposed to be contributive. They all ring false to me 100%. I see I'm not the only one looking at him now, but I think he was pretty comfortable before while CCS got to take the flak off of him by being the suspicious one between them to everyone.
Otherwise, I expected a bit more from Sorian overall. Crab came in and got the town jacked and active in short order. Of course we're all responsible for the state of the town, but we're not all proven at being able to get town active.
Kyanrute is jacking up the post count with a single subject and nothing all that illumination imo. And let's not forget the shitposts. Stands out but not in a good way.
Bronx and the poisoner. This whole thing as a scum gambit seems insane. I would believe the poisoner being either neutral or scum. Bronx being alive might suggest neutral but there's some wifom there. What I do have to say about Bronx is that as of now I believe him unless I can be convinced it is a gambit. Claiming so early on D2 left a real poison doctor tons of time to counter him. Saving the claim for the last hour if he was actually on the chopping block would have given him decent odds of not having a real counter present if it was a fake claim.
Burb was rubbing me wrong yesterday but looking at the votes I feel better about him. He and Kalor were firing at each other but Burb actually jumped off of that to jump onto Verelios. He didn't have to do that, I think he and Kalor could have kept up their no traction stand off without raising too many eyebrows and Burb chose a decent target even if it still wasn't all that useful. Post-wise still don't care for him an awful lot but I can hardly complain there.
Verelios is kind of the opposite. I have a good gut feeling about him but I'm not terribly impressed with what I see in the votes. Going to re-examine day end and touch back on this later.
flatearthpandas
Member
Take back what I said about Kyan. Really liked the end of d2. Still kind of like Vere but would vote him over Kyan if that was ever a situation that arose. Still feeling like we got a scum on acorns for now though