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Horizon Zero Dawn Looks Unnaturally Good Because Of 'Hyper-Realism'
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whatever6352
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I'm seeing confusion on here on who actually developed the Decima engine so here are a few articles that make it clear that Guerilla Games developed the engine.
http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/12/03/death-stranding-hideo-kojima-playstation-experience-trailer/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/12/03/death-stranding-will-run-on-the-decima-engine-developed-by-guerrilla-games
http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/12/03/death-stranding-hideo-kojima-playstation-experience-trailer/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/12/03/death-stranding-will-run-on-the-decima-engine-developed-by-guerrilla-games
el_colibri
Member
They developed it. KZ Shadowfall used an early version of it.
When KojiPro visited them, they handed them the source code for the engine in a USB stick, asked them to use their engine and now, they're both working together to refine and build on the engine for future projects.
In other words, Death Stranding could be a sort of Decima 1.1, if you will.
SolidSnakex
Member
KojiPro didn't have anything to do with Decima as it exists today. This is the same engine that Shadow Fall ran on, although obviously heavily modified. But going forward we'll see contributions from KoiPro to the engine.
Yeah, Kaz has actually talked about how one of the luxuries they have as a game developer is that they can create the weather in a way that makes sure the game always looks good. You can see it in Sport as well
whatever6352
Member
Oh yeah I don't doubt KojiPro/GG will refine the engine and make it better, but I have to imagine that Kojima had very little to do with the actual development for Horizon at all especially since they didn't announce the collaboration until Dec and Horizon released late Feb.
Wishmaster92
Member
Nah, he will fix the lighting which is one of the weak points of Decima.
Yeah, GG have been iterating on the engine they recently named Decima for years.
They gave Kojima a USB with the source code when he was on his studio tour with Mark Cerny, and Kohima chose it for his studio. Since then the two studios have an 'exchange program' where they are both working on developing Decima, but the version used for HZD is GG's own, not the Kojima collaborated code.
What will be exciting is seeing how DS & H2/GG's next game will be using Decima.
They gave Kojima a USB with the source code when he was on his studio tour with Mark Cerny, and Kohima chose it for his studio. Since then the two studios have an 'exchange program' where they are both working on developing Decima, but the version used for HZD is GG's own, not the Kojima collaborated code.
What will be exciting is seeing how DS & H2/GG's next game will be using Decima.
el_colibri
Member
I think you're right; I think Kojima had little to no input for H:ZD.
Which makes me incredibly excited for what we'll see in the next iteration of the Decima engine
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
In the (distant) future another article title will be: Death Stranding Looks Unnaturally Insane Because Of 'Hyper-SURRealism.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
those Attenborough links were fucking legit, 10/10.
DreadfulOmen
Member
It depends. If your in a section with a lot of trees blocking the moonlight, it can be pretty dark. Reminds me of when i go camping and if it's a new moon or half moon, it can get really dark.
Well goddamn! And it works just as well as I'd imagined.
Sometimes the internet is a wonderful place.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Wow!
I really need to play this game.
I really need to play this game.
Wishmaster92
Member
That's interesting, does this mean the lighting in the glass room is not final? Kojima kept mentioning the importance of lighting when the engine was unveiled.
Lion Heart
Banned
I can picture Kojimas face when they presented the game to him, he's like aight lets see the next one ^sigh^....
oh....I'll take it.
oh....I'll take it.
I think the game looks breathtaking but I have a real issue with the brightness autoadjusting itself constantly. It makes the game hard for me to look at especially when playing at night when the brightness of objects keep fluctuating depending on camera angles. When I stand still it is jaw dropping, when I start moving and playing it is frustrating as heck.
SolidSnakex
Member
That's interesting, does this mean the lighting in the glass room is not final? Kojima kept mentioning the importance of lighting when the engine was unveiled.
Yeah, it's likely not final. Kojima mentioned during PSX (I think that was the event) that the one concern they had with using someone elses engine was that they didn't want to make a game that looked like those on that engine. They wanted to be able to make one that fit their own style. So, that room is likely them just doing testing to make sure that Death Stranding wouldn't look like Horizon or Killzone.
There was another thread on the tech. Cant find it because its on mobile. Basically gurella had a tool where they could highlight an area and say "Draw Forrest" and it would procedurally generate a lush good looking forest in theat area rather then having to plant each tree individually
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Guerilla Games produces some of the best lighting, what chu talkin bout Willis?
OP didn't even post my favorite Sunhigifs.
Lightning, atmosphere of this gif is almost scarily looking real god damn.
Holy shit.
killatopak
Member
H O L Y S H I T
DeuceGamer
Member
I may have to wait to play this when I upgrade to a PS4 Pro. I'm just not sure I can wait, but feel it would give me the best boost from the OG PS4.
To Far Away Times
Member
I want to check out this game since I've heard good things but I have little faith in Guerrilla Games as a developer.
Is there heavy input lag and camera acceleration/deceleration?
Is gameplay well designed and the most important focus of the game?
Is there heavy input lag and camera acceleration/deceleration?
Is gameplay well designed and the most important focus of the game?
TheRealTalker
Banned
If you heard good things, then why do you still have little faith in GG?
You also must have been living under a rock for the last month. There are hundreds of reviews and impressions out and dozens of threads talking about the game here in the forum. The consensus is the game is very good. The gameplay/combat is one of its most praised aspects.
That is so cool!
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
the fuck, wrong thread lol
Jawbreaker
Member
1. No, it's one of the best feeling/controlling games on the market.
2. Yes, combat against the creatures is really exhilarating, and the feedback is sublime. On top of that, the narrative is great; it's sci-fi done right.
SlaughterX
Banned
Looks great, sounds great, and it's fun. The story is kinda meh but who caraes, I like shooting robot dinosaurs and stuff.
Aaronology
Member
Eh? Not a very common opinion.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
This game is an absolute master class in video game art direction. Every frame is gorgeous and there's always something to look at. I hardly ever used fast travel even if my objective was across the entire map. It was such a joy to just traverse the world and marvel at its splendor.
Indoor lighting can look pretty bad sometimes in Horizon. Like in and around Meridian at night. Probably more to do with the game itself than Decima though.
wapplew
Member
Almost fooled me. I thought it was well edited voice over until the very end.
Aaronology
Member
I think the settlements are the game's weakest area, graphically. It's one aspect The Witcher 3 totally nails while HZD falls short.
Well I'd say that most games try to achieve that.
Wolf Akela
Member
How does sunhi make everything look better? I've also seen his FFXV GIFs which ran on non-pro but I swear it never looked that good when I played the game. Any sunhi Witcher 3 GIFs?
Polioliolio
Member
Yeah, well fuck your shitty Orange and Teal filters
Fredrik
Member
She rest her arms in the air on an invisible thigh. Not at all impressive imo. The weather effects, hair and eyes is what wows me. The diversity in character design is great too, old people, black people, all rendered to pefection.
Fredrik
Member
It's really something, easily the best looking game I've ever seen, and I'm a core PC gamer too mind you. In fact it looks so great on the original PS4 that I don't see the need for PS4 Pro anymore, I saw it on Pro on a huge 4K TV shortly after I started playing it at home on OGPS4 and thought to myself "Huh? Is that all? Looks basically just as awesome at home." Pretty much locked 30fps too! Guerrilla really delivered on OGPS4, they should get lots of praise for not sacrificing the quality just because more power were available elsewhere.