I got it as soon as I beat the game (like 50 shrines in).
After 120 shrines, it's still not broken. And it's great.
Fuck weapon degradation
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I got it as soon as I beat the game (like 50 shrines in).
After 120 shrines, it's still not broken. And it's great.
Fuck weapon degradation
I think it takes around 80 Guardian laser shots before it breaks. It's super durable.
Last_colossi
Member
I've broke 3, 2 from just general wear and tear and the last one on purpose so I could have a fresh one for fighting Ganon. Whenever one breaks I just buy another from Gante for 3000 rupees in Tarrey town (you have to complete the "From the Ground Up" quest first).
Edit: Congrats at the progress!, I'm only at 21%.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Nintendo's been playing with the idea that technology is really behind the "mythology" for awhile now, but in SS it was pretty noticeable with the Hylia statues being basically mechanical dolls and all.
I think going far, far, far to the past is what Nintendo will do next mainline. Maybe the leviathan bones are a hint to that too, like we'll see dinosaurs next time around.
I think going far, far, far to the past is what Nintendo will do next mainline. Maybe the leviathan bones are a hint to that too, like we'll see dinosaurs next time around.
WordAssassin
Member
It would have to be a spinoff then since anything before Skyward Sword wouldn't have Link/Zelda
Maybe a Sheikah spinoff? I would loooooove that. Dinosaurs and ancient Sheikah tech would be so fuckin rad.
Edit: [I forgot this was the spoiler thread and don't need to tag shit, duh] Zelda does say she wants to return Hyrule to its former glory "or better" and she was OBSESSED with the Sheikah tech, so I could also see them doing a sequel with a very retro-future Hyrule too
I would totally love to see what a Neo-Sheikah Revolution Hyrule looks like in a sequel. Gimme that and EP0NA Mk.II Sheikah-cycle.
WordAssassin
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Word, that "modern" Zelda concept art with Link on a chopper was the wrong kind of modern. They have an already very well established race that mastered all kinds of ancient technology, THAT is the modern/future Zelda game they should do. Pair it with the "Legend of Zelda: Invasion" concept and I'd flip my shittttt
Skeletos311
Junior Member
Doesn't one of the leviathan bones kind of look like Ridley?
A game set before Skyward Sword could follow the story of Hylia and the very first Link, the origin of the ''soul of the hero", in a very high-tech world led by the Sheikah at the peak of their glory (plus dinosaurs!). Divide BotW's map size by half and make a whole interconnected underworld with multiple dungeon entrances from the overworld... That would be rad.
Stereogatari
Banned
Beautiful idea. The mystery and aura behind the Sheikah technology in this was very interesting. I loved the "the future was in the past" theme.
Now let's see that technology everywhere in a steampunk style Hyrule. Have the blue Guardian glow as a future Hyrule city's equivalent of the green glow of Materia in Midgar.
WrenchNinja
Member
Just realised that this is the first 3D Zelda that has placed no importance on music or having to find and learn songs
OoT and Majora had the Ocarina
Wind Waker had the baton
Twilight Princess had the grass and Howl Stones
Skyward Sword had the Goddess Harp and the Song of the Hero
The closest you have to something musical here is listening for Kass out in the wild and getting his kids to sing to unlock the one Shrine near the Rito Village
OoT and Majora had the Ocarina
Wind Waker had the baton
Twilight Princess had the grass and Howl Stones
Skyward Sword had the Goddess Harp and the Song of the Hero
The closest you have to something musical here is listening for Kass out in the wild and getting his kids to sing to unlock the one Shrine near the Rito Village
Everything in Zelda is now explained with Sheikah Technology.
The puzzles in Zelda dungeons? Sheikah Tech.
The Triforce? Sheikah Tech
Ganondorf's glorious red mane in Hyrule Warriors? Oh, you better believe that is the work of Sheikah Tech.
WordAssassin
Member
Well, I mean, to be fair Miyamoto did say originally the Triforce WAS going to be mechanical, and Skyward Sword and especially Breath of the Wild go out of their way to show the Sheikah were technologically extremely advanced. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to have "everything was robots" be true.
The one in Eldin looks like Levias. The one in Hebra is a baleen whale like Windfish or Oshus. The one in Gerudo has sharp teeth but also wings like the Windfish.
Yeah. The origin of Link's name is from the early concept of Zelda where he was collecting computer chips. His name is a sci-fi name, like datalink. The computer chips became the Triforce pieces in the final game.
With Wind Waker they started injecting some of the original concept for Zelda back into the series. Everything associated with the goddesses is decidedly futuristic and involves robots. More and more with each game they've added to the magic = technology concept.
broncobuster
Banned
This eventually leads to an Impa lightning bolt action game where the final boss says "sheikah tech, girl!" and rambles on about making Hyrule great again.
I want Nintendo to give Platinum the Zelda licence to make a Sheikah spin off game now.
It's funny because stuff like the Song of Time, Song of Sun, Epona's Song all came up in my head during the playthrough as "man, that would be useful right now".
Just beat the game, all divine beasts done, and all memories recovered.
Ganon was somewhat surprisingly easy. First phase wasn't bad and I imagine without the beasts or as strong armor would have been somewhat challenging. Phase two was easy as hell with that one easily dodged beam attack.
Parts feel incomplete still. What happened to the thing Zelda wanted to tell Link that the Deku tree told her to tell him herself? Just left for us to imagine it as...saying she loves him? I never really felt they went past respect for one another, though there might have been allusions to her developing feelings in her journal (I can't recall for sure), it didn't really feel that way in the cutscenes. In the very end it looks like Link goes back to being her bodyguard, not romantic partner or something.
Were there any scenes or something I missed? I think I saw a post mentioning a song that talks about Zelda's love for Link?
I also found it a bit awkward that Zelda's initial conversation with Link at the end concludes very briefly with 'Do you remember me?', and gives no conclusion to that scene together. I assume that is the end of the basic ending, but the extra scenes when everything is done jump to other points and never finish the initial scene. I had also kindof been expecting an explanation of why her powers suddenly manifested against the guardians. I had assumed due to her desire to defend Link erasing the grudge she had held against him and purifying her spirit (or just implied love), but thought there might be something mentioned about it.
Where did Zelda find her century old traveling outfit to switch back into at the end?
Story and cutscenes definitely went to the sidelines for this one as they focused efforts on developing the world itself.
Ganon was somewhat surprisingly easy. First phase wasn't bad and I imagine without the beasts or as strong armor would have been somewhat challenging. Phase two was easy as hell with that one easily dodged beam attack.
Parts feel incomplete still. What happened to the thing Zelda wanted to tell Link that the Deku tree told her to tell him herself? Just left for us to imagine it as...saying she loves him? I never really felt they went past respect for one another, though there might have been allusions to her developing feelings in her journal (I can't recall for sure), it didn't really feel that way in the cutscenes. In the very end it looks like Link goes back to being her bodyguard, not romantic partner or something.
Were there any scenes or something I missed? I think I saw a post mentioning a song that talks about Zelda's love for Link?
I also found it a bit awkward that Zelda's initial conversation with Link at the end concludes very briefly with 'Do you remember me?', and gives no conclusion to that scene together. I assume that is the end of the basic ending, but the extra scenes when everything is done jump to other points and never finish the initial scene. I had also kindof been expecting an explanation of why her powers suddenly manifested against the guardians. I had assumed due to her desire to defend Link erasing the grudge she had held against him and purifying her spirit (or just implied love), but thought there might be something mentioned about it.
Where did Zelda find her century old traveling outfit to switch back into at the end?
Story and cutscenes definitely went to the sidelines for this one as they focused efforts on developing the world itself.
Just finish all the quests involving Kass so you can listen to his final song.
Or if you want the answer right now click the spoilers
Basically Kass' teacher was a Sheikah that loved Zelda but he says that Zelda only had eyes for Link and his song is about that, it even mentions how Zelda awaked her powers because of her love for Link.
Money is on Impa. She had Link's Champion Tunic with her, not far-fetched that she had Zelda's adventure outfit.
JaseMath
Member
That they decided to tell and not show that aspect of the story is a humongous missed opportunity.
They do show it. Zelda spends the first memories mad at Link and treating him like shit because he was chosen by the sword instead of her. Then, after Link saves her from some Yiga she totally changes in attitude towards him. Their relationship gets stronger over the course of the memories, with Zelda clearly developing feelings for Link but not showing them. Zelda finally drops the facade when Link sacrifices himself for her, and this awakens her power. Zelda also has diary pages in her room where she explains her feelings in those memories.
Admiral Woofington
Member
yeah seriously, I got that maybe she may have grown some respect and admiration for Link but I didn't get romance.
there wasn't anything in that diary I saw as romantic. It just said that after the assassination attempt that she felt horrible and that she would change her attitude, and that they grew closer and she actually got Link to talk.
cryptosporidium
Member
Koloktos is probably my favourite zelda boss of all time, next to OOT final boss. My biggest hope from that fight was that they would carry over the idea of grabbing enemy weapons (which was also present in WW, but absent in TP iirc). I also loved the stamina system and the bazaar upgradable weapon system.
Basically, BOTW took all my favourite SS mechanics and made them better and that was fucking awesome.
First form ganon was also super fucking cool as Ive said. hopefully they bring back anthropomorphic pig ganon next time tho
Basically, BOTW took all my favourite SS mechanics and made them better and that was fucking awesome.
First form ganon was also super fucking cool as Ive said. hopefully they bring back anthropomorphic pig ganon next time tho
Of course not. Zelda approaches everything from an analytical and logical view point. She wouldn't recognize her own feelings. This is why she fails to awaken her powers before Link sacrifices himself. It took that event to for her to realize her feelings and tap into her power. If she was showing her emotions before that point the plot wouldn't make sense, but it was obvious to bystanders such as us, Urbosa, Mipha, and Sheikah dude what Zelda didn't know. Mipha tried to spell it out for her right before Ganon attacked, but it was too late.
JaseMath
Member
There's no mention of her having romantic feelings for Link in the diary. Friendship, sure. Romance, though? Zelda's memories elude to an earned respect and mutual friendship, and nothing more. Before Kass tells you, you could argue that her simply protecting the Champion awoke her power, since the sacrifice to the other was reciprocated. When Kass' epilogue unfolded, the entire time I was thinking, "Why on Earth wasn't this a cutscene?"
Y'know, I'm kinda shocked the terrible combat wasn't a bigger talking point. It feels like your hitbox is super wonky, dodges feel terrible and floaty, Z-targeting and camera were incredibly annoying, and the game actually gives you less attack options than previous Zelda games since you can't change your attack with the analog stick. I found myself flailing around and missing targets that were right in front of me way too often.
Frozenprince
Banned
Honestly it just feels like "Link needed to have a line or two of dialogue in these scenes" solves the issue.
Far too much is inferred because he's mute.
Far too much is inferred because he's mute.
That's the point. Zelda's romantic feelings were obvious to bystanders but not Zelda herself. Zelda's diary becomes full of talk about Link once she becomes interested in him. She totally has a crush on him and is expressing it through analysis of him, talking to him constantly, trying to crack his silent exterior, sharing personal moments with him, breaking down her own facade around him. Kass' mentor noticed how Zelda was all over Link and realized that it was love. Zelda herself didn't realize it until Link was about to die, which awakened her powers.
I really don't like the idea how the horrible deaths of her father, her friends, her servants, her home, her subjects, and the entirety of her kingdom didn't awaken her power, but almost losing the boy she loves does.
I like to believe that it was the combined forces of all those things and the fact she was about to lose the only person she really had left that awakened her powers, not really her realization of her love for Link.
Admiral Woofington
Member
sorry but no. You're saying it's really obvious to everyone but her, but NOTHING in the game could have been outright romance until this guy tells you via song that it was. Mipha was just saying that when she does her healing that she thinks of her happy place or some crap, and that Zelda should do the same. And she gets interrupted. Everything I have seen from the game just made it seem she saw Link as a kindred soul and a good friend that she went from hating to being close to since he was the only one who understood her.
Then at the end when they're walking together in the new Hyrule she's just like 'ooh new adventure, I'm glad I have you with me' which all I saw was 'that's it?'. They could have made it clearer there that after waiting for 100 years she would be more forward.
This wasn't obvious in the least until after the fact and now you start seeing other evidence and making sense of it.
edit: on a different note do we have theories/an explanation as to why the master sword was talking to Zelda instead of Link? Because she held the triforce? Then why was Link wielding the sword, and why did she say she stopped hearing the sword in the end?
Admiral Woofington
Member
I don't mind it, if they do it all the way through for once. Skyward Sword is the closest but even in that they couldn't end it with a confirmation they were now together.
Fine, but her issue was not understanding her own feelings, which kept her from tapping into her power. And this translated to her treating her relationship with Link like a science project. Her relationships with family and subjects were strained so she couldn't tap that, either.
Anyway, the point is that Zelda couldn't be shown being knowingly romantic towards Link because her realizing her feelings for him is the moment that unlocks her powers and Link goes into a 100 year coma.
And it should be noted that Link and Zelda's roles are the reverse of Skyward Sword. In Skyward Sword, Zelda manipulated Link's romantic feelings for her to groom him into one worthy of wielding the complete Triforce. Whereas in BotW it's Zelda that needs to awaken emotionally to wield her godly powers.
Crimsonlink
Member
? Its been a thing since Zelda 2 though.... lol
Admiral Woofington
Member
you make it sound like Zelda never had romantic feelings for Link in Skyward Sword
But it's not in all the games tho.
BOTW is making people forget what a Zelda game is.
Twilight Princess? Link is more into that farm girl in that one (Ilia)
But that game is more like the Legend of Midna lol honestly.
You're not getting it. The way Zelda was acting made it obvious that she had feelings for Link to people around her, but it wasn't expressed as romance because Zelda hadn't had an emotional awakening and realized herself that she was in love. She was hanging around Link a lot, talking with him constantly, treating him like a science project. Kass' teacher noticed this, realized Zelda had a thing for Link, and got jealous. People being in love and not realizing it is a very common trope.
Kass:
My teacher was of the Shiekah tribe. He was the court poet for the Hyrulean royal family.
At the time, there was a beautiful princess in the royal family, quite close to my teacher in age, apparently. Though he must have know it was doomed to be unrequited, my teacher fell in love with her...
But the princess herself only had eyes for her escort, her own knight attendant. My teacher was consumed with jealousy... He fumed that the knight was neither nobility nor royalty himself.
And then the Calamity struck.
...My teacher believed a hero would appear to beat back the Calamity. Her poured that belief into a song. And that song is what I need you to hear.
An ancient hero, a Calamity appears,
Now resurrected after 10,000 years.
Her appointed knight gives his life,
Shields her figure, and pays the price.
The princess' love for her fallen knight
awakens her power / And within the
castle the Calamity is forced to cower.
But the knight survives!
In the Shrine of Resurrection he sleeps,
Until from his healing dream he leaps!
For fierce and deadly trials await.
To regain his strength. Fulfill his fate.
To become a hero once again!
To wrest the princess from evil's den.
The hero, the princess-hand in hand-
Must bring the light back to this land.
My teacher fled the Calamity and returned to his hometown of Kakriko Village. But on his way, he witnessed the princess' knight sacrifice himself to protect the princess.
The elder of Kakariko Village, Impa, explained these circumstances to him, and his mind was made up. He would seek the songs of the hero who sealed the Calamity away in an age past... so they could be passed on to the knight once he returned. All so that the princess might be saved... Those were my teacher's last words, passed on now through me.
It was Zelda finally realizing her true feelings that awakened her powers. Showing a typical romance prior to that would kill this plot point.
Admiral Woofington
Member
and you're not getting my argument.
I'm saying that BEFORE that whole event with Kass' ending, it wasn't clear that Zelda had romantic feelings for Link. It's only AFTER you go through that whole dialogue that your mind is now observing previous events and cutscenes and taking essentially leaps into going 'oh I now see this scene differently and can explain it'.
I'm saying their method of portraying her feelings for him through SHOWING me was bad. Because with the reveal I'm left thinking they should have shown it better or had other characters made it clearer to Link, because the few cutscenes we get of Zelda don't show shit. It is beyond being vague.
This is the exact same issue that happened in The Legend of Korra's ending where something happened and people are happy and many like me are thinking 'none of the events prior to this scene made it seem that way'.
I'm saying that BEFORE that whole event with Kass' ending, it wasn't clear that Zelda had romantic feelings for Link. It's only AFTER you go through that whole dialogue that your mind is now observing previous events and cutscenes and taking essentially leaps into going 'oh I now see this scene differently and can explain it'.
I'm saying their method of portraying her feelings for him through SHOWING me was bad. Because with the reveal I'm left thinking they should have shown it better or had other characters made it clearer to Link, because the few cutscenes we get of Zelda don't show shit. It is beyond being vague.
This is the exact same issue that happened in The Legend of Korra's ending where something happened and people are happy and many like me are thinking 'none of the events prior to this scene made it seem that way'.
Crimsonlink
Member
Well of course considering how MM and then Links Awakening didn't really have Zelda outside of very small cameos.....
Wow this just made me realize how besides SS and BOTW, Zelda just doesn't appear much at all until the very end.
Yeah, it changed up almost everything. A lot of it people love but some parts are definitely deserving of criticism.
My thoughts on Zelda's power not awakening till after Link fell in battle. Plot and poor pacing imho. Can't have the story unless Zelda needs to be rescued and what better way than to seal herself with Ganon's hatred while Link recovers.
Have to say the Shiekan tech for healing sucks ass if it takes 100 years just to recover and wake up.
Anyways, Zelda would have been too powerful with her powers already unlocked for there to even be a story. Ganon would get obliterated so fast with the Divine Beasts and the Triforce Duo as shown in the legend from 10,000 years ago.
As for romance, there is just so many things wrong in that regard in the game. Mipha was pretty tragic and it annoys me how Nintendo sweeps it under the rug since OOT.
Mipha makes the Zora Tunic all shaped to Link's size as her marriage gift or whatever. The thing is, we never see a Hylian x Zora child or a couple of that sort of any kind through the memories or in game.
I assume Hylian x Gerudo is fairly common but when you imply a relationship between a Zora Princess and Hylian Hero, you gotta show some support that these types of relationships exist.
I mean surely someone must have told Mipha, sorry you are a Zora, fish parts + human parts never work out so you cannot dare to fall in love with Link.
Now I don't mean it in a sexual way either. Imagine being Mipha and meeting another race's diplomatic rep and introducing a Hylian instead of a Zora as your husband. Its just not feasible in my head.
Admiral Woofington
Member
^ did you not do the sidequest where the zora child and the human merchant who had been falling in love via letters finally meet and they are essentially saying they will stick together? And the only thing that her mother has to say is that 'I should have guessed she had a bad taste in men considering where she got it from'
which is kind of fucked up because she essentially disses you indirectly since the first thing she says is that back in the days she was also in love with Link and asked him to choose between Mipha and her.
which is kind of fucked up because she essentially disses you indirectly since the first thing she says is that back in the days she was also in love with Link and asked him to choose between Mipha and her.
I dunno. I felt the game made it pretty clear what was going on. Zelda's attitude towards Link changes completely when he saves her from those assassins. The look on her face and the tone of that scene. After that she becomes obsessed over him and expresses it in a way consistent with her character. Mipha hints that her own powers are tied to her feelings towards Link, and it's very clear that Zelda's feelings towards Link awakened her powers when he sacrificed himself.
I don't know how else they could have done it. Zelda's inability to realize that she was in love and express that love is integral to the reason she fails to access her powers, but the way she clings to Link after he saves her life is pretty typical of the trope.
Maybe watch the memories again in order?
Astral Dog
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Korra and Asami were totally flirting
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