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Conservatives defend Mike Pence not interacting with women cause they might have sex

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This is a thing. My religious brother in law said he won't get in an elevator or similarly small space with a woman who isn't his wife (if it's just the two of them).

Is the fear the woman might tempt him with sex like the snake tempted Eve or because he can't control his sex drive and might end forcing himself on her?
 

RM8

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I mean, what if the woman deeply falls in love with him? Or worse, develops strong lust for him? These things happen, man.
 
new one, women = ice cream

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THERES A THING CALLED CONSENT.

Are they all potential rapists?

yeah but when ice cream dresses up like that its asking for it
 
Actually, that remark by Matt Walsh is something I can sorta get behind. I find there is indeed very little reason for it. There's exceptions and there's women (friends) I could certainly enjoy a good conversation and dinner with, but my equipment isn't fucking around. It doesn't give a fuck whether I have a girlfriend at home or not. Of course I will be able to just have a normal conversation without throwing myself at them, of course. But knowing I am in fact a man, I will not put myself into certain situations without there being good i.e. socially accepted reaons for it. Not because I can't control myself, but out of respect for my significant other.

Wut? Just tell your SO. Its hiding that you are doing it that is suspect. I have lunch with lunch/dinner with women pretty often (working in the nonprofit sector, most of your colleagues end up being women) and tell my gf about it. Ive even introduced them to her and they became friends indepndently of me.
 

Sorcerer

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Maybe his wife is extremely jealous and the dude just doesn't want to pin that on her. Taking the hit himself. Unless he is trying to say women can't control themselves around him?
 

Saganator

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Must be hard going through life having to make a bunch of silly rules for yourself because you lack the ability to keep your penis under control.
 

Kthulhu

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They sound like my immature brother that thinks any sort of relationship between a man and a woman = they wanna bone.
 
Literally the slippery slope that leads to Burqas. Cultures where women are considered property and breeding stock and all men potential rapists. These are things the vast majority of civilization has moved away from over the centuries.

That's not a culture that should be encouraged or embraced. But I'll give them credit for actually being conservative for once.

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Christian conservatives seriously have no clue how much they sound like the muslim fundamentalists they’re so afraid of. https://t.co/qMusBTxUlb
 

Clockwork

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Actually, that remark by Matt Walsh is something I can sorta get behind. I find there is indeed very little reason for it. There's exceptions and there's women (friends) I could certainly enjoy a good conversation and dinner with, but my equipment isn't fucking around. It doesn't give a fuck whether I have a girlfriend at home or not. Of course I will be able to just have a normal conversation without throwing myself at them, of course. But knowing I am in fact a man, I will not put myself into certain situations without there being good i.e. socially accepted reaons for it. Not because I can't control myself or some nonsense like that, but out of respect for my significant other.

Respect? I could go to lunch with a female friend today and my girlfriend would simply ask how my lunch was and if I had a good time.

There is no issue with man and woman having lunch. Your thought process is the problem.
 

Dynomutt

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This is an absurd reason to attack/poke fun of someone for. It's a good way to avoid rumors of impropriety and show faithfulness to his spouse.

Yeah I think this being Pence makes it easy fodder for the internet. Men and women can be friends but this is more common than you'd think. Now the excuses will vary...

Had a manager who would not really participate in after work outings and made it a rule to never be in a situation with women one on one in the office or out to lunch. He said it was nothing personal wanted to be professional and just felt his job was to support us as employees. Even conducted reviews with the Director as an additional measure. Now this was with everyone so it could have been a blanket thing. Could be an older timer thing?

Now a man in his position. A lot of women in politics so he may have to adjust...no pun intended.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Like this is weird, is every interaction with a women/man a problem for these people. Can they not suppress their sex drive and interact with people, as you know, people?

I'm not fully convinced they are even people.
 
Actually, that remark by Matt Walsh is something I can sorta get behind. I find there is indeed very little reason for it. There's exceptions and there's women (friends) I could certainly enjoy a good conversation and dinner with, but my equipment isn't fucking around. It doesn't give a fuck whether I have a girlfriend at home or not. Of course I will be able to just have a normal conversation without throwing myself at them, of course. But knowing I am in fact a man, I will not put myself into certain situations without there being good i.e. socially accepted reaons for it. Not because I can't control myself or some nonsense like that,but out of respect for my significant other.



Well, if that's a thing, that's ridiculous of course.
Um, you know the women would have to actually be interested in it turning into something sexual. Why do you presume that?

And the two bolded kinda seem to contradict
 

Pau

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It's not a matter of his personal life. He's the vice fucking president. To think that he's going to deny a meal with any female members of his team, or with any female politicians or business leaders, is absurd and something worth talking about. It's LITERALLY not allowing women a seat at the table.
For real.
 
Wut? Just tell your SO. Its hiding that you are doing it that is suspect. I have lunch with lunch/dinner with women pretty often (working in the nonprofit sector, most of your colleagues end up being women) and tell my gf about it. Ive even introduced them to her and they became friends indepndently of me.

It is very likely that my remarks would be misunderstood or controversial in some sense maybe, but I will try to clarify: I do not have the intention to hide anything, I just think it's better or more respectful to my gf to not expose myself to 1 on 1 situations with other women that I may or may not find attractive unless there's a specific reason for it.

Um, you know the women would have to actually be interested in it turning into something sexual. Why do you presume that?

I do not presume that, but it does happen that people get attracted to each other, no?

And the two bolded kinda seem to contradict

They do, I can see that. But they can both be true.
 
These guys look at women like they're inhuman. Like we're some input-output machine, with the output always being sex.

"If I put food into the upper hole, the lower holes open!!!"

And now, a brief list of reasons I've had meals alone with men over the past year that did not involve dates or lead to sex:

1. Business
2. Politics
3. Community organizing
4. Barter system (you buy me coffee for a week, I'll buy lunch on Friday)
5. No one else showed up to a group thing
6. Catching up with an old friend while visiting home
7. Both of us were starving after work

Humans are social creatures, and some of the best business and creative ideas are born over food. Food brings us together as a community. To deny a meal with a woman because you're too afraid of it leading to sex means that you cannot see her on the same level as you intellectually; she is just a sex object.
 
Eh, nothing to get worked up over. I know a few people like this, they won't go anywhere alone with a woman who isn't their wife. Strange, but not something I usually think about more than a passing "That's odd... whatever"
 

Birbo

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A co-worker of mine, who is married to a pastor, has a rule that neither she nor her husband can ride alone in a car with a member of the opposite sex. What would members of their congregation think of they saw that? Obviously they're going somewhere to have sex.
 
Eh, nothing to get worked up over. I know a few people like this, they won't go anywhere alone with a woman who isn't their wife. Strange, but not something I usually think about more than a passing "That's odd... whatever"

Let's say you are a women want to interact with men in positions of power like the VP...
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
This is a thing. My religious brother in law said he won't get in an elevator or similarly small space with a woman who isn't his wife (if it's just the two of them).

This is ridiculous and speaks magnitudes to what he thinks of himself or women or both.
 

tkscz

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This is a thing. My religious brother in law said he won't get in an elevator or similarly small space with a woman who isn't his wife (if it's just the two of them).

I've had girlfriends who had this same "fear". They didn't want me alone with any other woman. It's really bad when you're married. Not sure why people feel this way.

Let's say you are a women want to interact with men in positions of power like the VP...
This isn't a way only men feel though. Women tend to feel the same way. They would rather their partners not be near another single woman. Not sure if it says what they think of other women, what they think of their significant other, or both.
 

Chaplain

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Each of us has weaknesses that can hinder our freedom. One of the things that addicts are told in rehab is to stop all relationships that were associated with drug use. The relapse statistics are extremely high for those who ignore this warning. Pence probably has thoughts that come up when he is around women that he would rather not have to deal with.
 
Respect? I could go to lunch with a female friend today and my girlfriend would simply ask how my lunch was and if I had a good time.

There is no issue with man and woman having lunch. Your thought process is the problem.

Yeah, if your girlfriend doesn't trust you to be on your own with other women, you should probably break up right there, as nothing good will come of staying in that relationship.
 
Actually, that remark by Matt Walsh is something I can sorta get behind. I find there is indeed very little reason for it. There's exceptions and there's women (friends) I could certainly enjoy a good conversation and dinner with, but my equipment isn't fucking around. It doesn't give a fuck whether I have a girlfriend at home or not. Of course I will be able to just have a normal conversation without throwing myself at them, of course. But knowing I am in fact a man, I will not put myself into certain situations without there being good i.e. socially accepted reaons for it. Not because I can't control myself or some nonsense like that, but out of respect for my significant other.



Well, if that's a thing, that's ridiculous of course.

But that's what this entire notion is about.

If you say "I won't be alone with a woman", you're saying two things: "I cannot control/trust myself not to want to fuck any given woman" and "Any given woman will want to fuck me".

Now look, I agree that say, two opposite sex heterosexual humans who say, work late nights together on an ongoing basis can lead to things. It's a natural part of attraction that spending time around someone leads often to mutual interest. But this notion that you can't sit down for a fucking dinner, or have a private business meeting, or anything else that is an otherwise innocuous interaction, is just absurd to the point of being worthy of ridicule.
 
It's not a matter of his personal life. He's the vice fucking president. To think that he's going to deny a meal with any female members of his team, or with any female politicians or business leaders, is absurd and something worth talking about. It's LITERALLY not allowing women a seat at the table.

Maybe more people should have voted. If it were up to me he wouldn't even be there. I wish as many people were outraged about this as Trump's team collaborating with foreign Russian agents. My Facebook is blowing up on this from people who refuse to discuss politics since the election.
 
How about socialization?

To be clear: I'm not judging anyone and realize that is pretty much the most normal thing in the world for two people of the opposite sex to meet for reasons other than sex. For me personally though, there's some restrictions I have.

As for socialization, yeah if it's not one on one, cool.

But that's what this entire notion is about.

If you say "I won't be alone with a woman", you're saying two things: "I cannot control/trust myself not to want to fuck any given woman" and "Any given woman will want to fuck me".

I don't think that necessarily has to be what you're saying. I think it could also mean this what you said next:

Now look, I agree that say, two opposite sex heterosexual humans who say, work late nights together on an ongoing basis can lead to things. It's a natural part of attraction that spending time around someone leads often to mutual interest. But this notion that you can't sit down for a fucking dinner, or have a private business meeting, or anything else that is an otherwise innocuous interaction, is just absurd to the point of being worthy of ridicule.

Agreed, saying that you couldn't have ONE business dinner is ridiculous. However, choosing to limit those interactions because you know what they can lead to IS NOT ridiculous.
 
I've long suspected the kind of people who are magnetically drawn to tough guy strong-man politicians are folks who, themselves, lack control.

This seems related
 

Paganmoon

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What you people don't seem to understand is that it's not Mike Pence or these other men lacking self control, not at all. It's that women by nature are wired to seduce all men, all the time.

So please, stop attacking Mike Pence and these other poor men. They've done nothing wrong.
 
This is an absurd reason to attack/poke fun of someone for. It's a good way to avoid rumors of impropriety and show faithfulness to his spouse.

There's nothing absurd about it. He's the vice president, the idea that he can just skip having dinners with women is ridiculous. And who the hell is going to start rumors that he's cheating on his wife when Donald Trump is the president? Pence would just have to do everything by the book and he would be fine.
 
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