Saucycarpdog
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Not really. Reagan was an actor before being a politician. Along with Arnold schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura.
If actors can become state governors, then it's not really a stretch to think a billionaire could become President.
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WSJ: Mike Flynn Offers to Testify in Exchange for Immunity
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If actors can become state governors, then it's not really a stretch to think a billionaire could become President.
jellies_two
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Of course they were!
Don't you get it? The entire stupid charade was to help get Trump out of apologizing for his "tapp" tweet so he could say "I feel somewhat vindicated" and had the bonus of blowing up the house committee credibility so it could cancel any public hearings.
To be fair, Obama faced massive opposition and disrespect from a large segment of the American populace. On top of him cleaning the messes of the Bush administration, going back a decade and some change. Bush left the Presidency is such a poor position, that not even Obama was able to transform or move the office forward. He merely acted as a somewhat restorative force for the U.S. presidency. Trump is going to leave long-lasting damage on the stability of the U.S. federal government in the global view, and questions about the entire premise of democracy and republicanism.
Schiff repeated the insinuation that what he was shown today may not be what Nunes initially claimed to have. I don't think he would repeat that unless he really believed it to be true.
At the Senate Intel hearing yesterday, (which IMO should have gotten way more attention) they said flat out that a lot of Russian based propaganda and lies were *still* making it to Trump, and he was repeating them in public. I'm wondering if Nunes was duped into presenting Trump with false or misleading Intel that came from Russia through Flynn's old buddy Ezra Cohen-Watnick, (they guy who supposedly gave Nunes the intel) and now they're all trying to dance away from it.
At the Senate Intel hearing yesterday, (which IMO should have gotten way more attention) they said flat out that a lot of Russian based propaganda and lies were *still* making it to Trump, and he was repeating them in public. I'm wondering if Nunes was duped into presenting Trump with false or misleading Intel that came from Russia through Flynn's old buddy Ezra Cohen-Watnick, (they guy who supposedly gave Nunes the intel) and now they're all trying to dance away from it.
It doesn't work because you see the floor through the door, and you can't see Travolta's legs in the movie :\
*damn you Guy.brush*
Couldn't resist the temptation to create this:
https://webmshare.com/play/Dm6mQ
(WebM, too bigly for GIF)
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Lol that's great.
That's good. heh
SpinningBirdKick
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This latest season of The West Wing has been great so far.
I hope the finale doesn't suck.
I hope the finale doesn't suck.
This is the one time I hope the writers go with the ending the fans are demanding.
BlastProcessing
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Conversely, the FBI denied his immunity because they don't feel like they need his testimony. Which would be a positive indicator.
lmao amazing dude... nice work!
HP_Wuvcraft
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It doesn't matter if the question was asked as he was leaving the room.
It's still fucked up, and everyone's body language including Pence's explains that.
It's still fucked up, and everyone's body language including Pence's explains that.
Karsticles
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We don't want him to get immunity. We want the whole ship to go down.
My mind just went to a terrible, terrible place.
Could it be that his lawyers have drummed into him that this is an ongoing investigation and he really, really must not comment any more.
Therefore he fled before his brain got around to engaging his jaw, because that's how he understands restraint.
Apologies if already posted but here's a great twitter mega-thread from Seth Abramson, a former criminal attorney, explaining how immunity works and what this immunity request likely means:
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/847983447620694016
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/847983447620694016
Oh man. I really needed that
RustyNails
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Version 3.0
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Well, that's not really fair. Outdated, yes. But they both knew the rules. Trump, as much as I hate to give him credit for anything, campaigned hard in states everyone thought he couldn't win. And Hillary almost ignored those same states, thinking they were in the bag.
If the rules were different (aka straight popular vote) they would've campaigned differently, and probably some people who think their vote doesn't count (in deep red or blue states) may have voted, when now they don't. Who's to say what the result would've been?
Best guess is it would favor the Democrats, but we don't really know. 6 months ago, the Electoral map was never going to allow another Republican president, so they said.
Od course trump would pick someone so shoddy with financial disclosure as his NSA.
Well as we all know from the Clinton campaign, paid speeches are no big deal and don't mean anything
ArkhamFantasy
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Crimson_Gold
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The comparison you're making right now is pretty terrible.
I'll take false equivalence for 1000 Alex.
rokkerkory
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LOCK HER UP! (?)
GiantEnemyGoomba
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I'm not an expert but this seems... not good
BlastProcessing
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You are in over your head here.
rokkerkory
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Proud of you going down with the ship
Zeus Molecules
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That's why they aren't going to give him immunity..... too many skeletons in Flynns closet
I didn't realize Wall Street was the propaganda arm of a hostile foreign power.
Paid to speak for Russia's propaganda wing. Exactly the same thing as Clinton.
I thought I was watching House of Cards.
Trump picking Flynn is just a coincidence if you ask people who look at all this as nothing.
I honestly read this and thought we'd already heard. He's stupid enough to do it again.
What did Clinton fail to disclose that was amended later?
ArkhamFantasy
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They're publicly distancing themselves from Manafort as well, Spicey said something like "He was with us for a brief amount of time" or something. lol
Ziltoidia 9
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The big test will be if we (FBI) can prove Trump was aware of the failures of Flynn, or if he found out later and was in with the cover up. If he was never really aware of it then he might be able to get off via ignorance, but at the same time, that is just a sign of how stupid he is.
Though I would bet there is much more to it, since you have Manafort, Stone and his son-on-law in the picture.
Though I would bet there is much more to it, since you have Manafort, Stone and his son-on-law in the picture.
Beer Monkey
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There's SO MUCH more to it. The money laundering and data laundering isn't even really being covered by public committee airings and the mainstream media yet; some of this certainly relates to the surveillance details and the Russian control of targeted social media ads and influence of trending 'news' by bot armys. There are so many connections. Russia pwned the internet to influence American primaries and elections and Trumps camp knew about it and worked with them (AND took dirty money for the campaign) and they didn't cover their steps. This is 10x bigger than Watergate and Trump's people are digging themselves even deeper with the coverups EVERY DAY, which means the investigations just get bigger.
This will be daily news for months to years to come and at some point I'll wager it all ends with top Republicans in a private meeting with Trump where they tell him he's either stepping down or walking out in shackles.
Shadow Puppetry
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Master Yoshi
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Stay on your little island, KingKong.
Shadow Puppetry
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Freedom of speech, so it's not illegal.
Super_Cobra
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So it was nothing? People here get too excited easily.
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