frankie_baby
Member
Having monster hunter on it would do pretty much fuck all for the ps4, i really cant see them thinking paying the amounts of monies required
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Having monster hunter on it would do pretty much fuck all for the ps4, i really cant see them thinking paying the amounts of monies required
frankie_baby
Member
And switch is a home console
Jon Carter
Member
Capcom's comments definitely hinted at Monster Hunter being on PS4. I'd say there's very little chance of MH5 being a Switch exclusive.
Hero of Legend
Member
We're forgetting a couple of things regarding Nintendo's involvement with MH:
Monster Hunter got I believe the first ever standalone 3rd-party game direct, where XX was unveiled.
And, Nintendo themselves seem to be localizing Monster Hunter Stories for the west.
Not the kind of thing I think would happen if the series was about to jump ship.
Rewind back to I think around 2011, I think it was said that Sony forbid Capcom to localize Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD on PS3, I think it was due to it just being a straight PSP port and it would look bad in the line-up or something? I could be TOTALLY wrong, I just recall hearing this being said.
Then all of the sudden BOOM, Monster Hunter 3G and Monster Hunter 4 for 3DS.
Feels like Sony burnt the bridge and Nintendo was getting more on Capcom's good side and everything fell into place. Not to be forgetting Capcom IIRC helped design the Wii Classic Controller Pro specifically for Monster Hunter 3, I think it released as a tie-in for the game alongside the debut of the black Wii.
So yeah, when you look at how things have been, there's nothing really pointing to things going different aside from some random rumors and looking too deeply into Capcom's words about consoles in the west and whatnot which could really be also describing the Switch's console side (which Nintendo does market as in the west).
Monster Hunter got I believe the first ever standalone 3rd-party game direct, where XX was unveiled.
And, Nintendo themselves seem to be localizing Monster Hunter Stories for the west.
Not the kind of thing I think would happen if the series was about to jump ship.
Rewind back to I think around 2011, I think it was said that Sony forbid Capcom to localize Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD on PS3, I think it was due to it just being a straight PSP port and it would look bad in the line-up or something? I could be TOTALLY wrong, I just recall hearing this being said.
Then all of the sudden BOOM, Monster Hunter 3G and Monster Hunter 4 for 3DS.
Feels like Sony burnt the bridge and Nintendo was getting more on Capcom's good side and everything fell into place. Not to be forgetting Capcom IIRC helped design the Wii Classic Controller Pro specifically for Monster Hunter 3, I think it released as a tie-in for the game alongside the debut of the black Wii.
So yeah, when you look at how things have been, there's nothing really pointing to things going different aside from some random rumors and looking too deeply into Capcom's words about consoles in the west and whatnot which could really be also describing the Switch's console side (which Nintendo does market as in the west).
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Ugh, stop buying 1 2 switch people. It's the shitttiest game Nintendo has ever made and I'm counting Wii music and Wii play
Nuh-uh.
I want Nintendoland 2, probably to promote the new Theme Park in 2020.
Sammy Samusu
Member
MH won't be Switch exclusive. It's about time you guys accept it and move on.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
It would sell about as much as Final Fantasy XV. I mean judging from the sales data we have from everything ever.
And that's only if it's exclusive.
It only makes sense for Capcom to focus that series on the Switch. I have a very strong feeling you guys are going to be disappointed.
The smart decision is Switch exclusive. Of course Capcom gonna Capcom.
frankie_baby
Member
It'd be lucky to do two thirds of that as an exclusive
Lord_Byron28
Member
I see Monster Hunter will still remain focused as a portable franchise. They may try to make console MH's happen again but they are not gonna ruin their 4-5 million copy selling franchise
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Don't underestimate Capcom way of thinking ,
I won't be surprised if it's a Scorpio exclusive
frankie_baby
Member
I wont be surprised if scorpio doesnt even release in japan
MH won't be an exclusive to a platform that is not portable that's for sure. That's basically the reason why it grew this big in the first place. If you remove portability, then pray for the West to salvage the lost sales or for the platform holder to carry the bulk of the development and marketing cost.
Bruno MB
Member
Prediction League March 2017 Results
Congratulations to:
- Raylan, for winning by units!
- Mory Dunz, for winning by mean error %!
Congratulations to:
- Raylan, for winning by units!
- Mory Dunz, for winning by mean error %!
Code:
BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR %
1 Raylan 182.368 1 Mory Dunz 10,42%
2 Mory Dunz 218.672 2 astrogamer 14,24%
3 astrogamer 219.626 3 Raylan 14,82%
4 Bruno MB 279.924 4 metalslimer 16,30%
5 Eolz 281.962 5 horuhe 19,77%
6 horuhe 287.039 6 Orgen 20,04%
7 MANUELF 345.542 7 Bruno MB 21,09%
8 Maxinas 348.626 8 Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule 21,50%
9 Chris1964 357.199 9 thestopsign 22,05%
10 thestopsign 369.404 10 Maxinas 22,48%
11 Tamanator 377.924 11 MasterSheen 22,49%
12 metalslimer 394.924 12 Chris1964 23,26%
13 Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule 414.246 13 MANUELF 23,84%
14 MasterSheen 418.924 14 Hellraider 26,88%
15 u_neek 422.962 15 Eolz 28,55%
16 Orgen 429.626 16 LordKano 29,63%
17 LordKano 449.924 17 Tamanator 29,97%
18 Yeshua 482.962 18 DrWong 30,64%
19 Mpl90 506.200 19 Jon Carter 30,83%
20 Hellraider 509.260 20 u_neek 32,13%
21 DrWong 520.626 21 jonno394 32,70%
22 Jon Carter 679.924 22 noobie 37,28%
23 jonno394 692.962 23 Yeshua 39,00%
24 random25 723.626 24 Yagami_Sama 40,27%
25 casiopao 729.962 25 Mpl90 41,46%
26 Yagami_Sama 788.613 26 Nimby 52,66%
27 Nimby 830.962 27 Mr. Pointy 56,69%
28 Calm Mind 837.962 28 random25 57,78%
29 noobie 867.962 29 casiopao 59,00%
30 madstarr12 918.626 30 madstarr12 61,91%
31 1st Course 973.626 31 noshten 66,00%
32 noshten 992.962 32 Calm Mind 67,23%
33 Mr. Pointy 1.057.962 33 1st Course 73,92%
Code:
Famitsu Orgen Mory Dunz Chris1964 jonno394 noshten Maxinas Yeshua metalslimeDaphnes NoMr. Pointy Raylan noobie Calm Mind MANUELF casiopao random25 Hellraider
[PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn 167.756 113.000 135.000 123.456 115.000 90.000 95.000 100.000 115.000 100.000 115.000 135.000 75.000 130.000 75.000 100.000 150.000 140.000
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware 524.371 587.000 490.000 567.890 650.000 750.000 625.000 650.000 565.000 460.000 800.000 460.000 620.000 850.000 700.000 616.000 600.000 700.000
[NSW + WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 388.152 491.000 325.000 543.210 450.000 700.000 480.000 500.000 450.000 460.000 550.000 410.000 400.000 575.000 400.000 600.000 600.000 450.000
[NSW] 1-2-Switch 138.790 176.000 155.000 210.987 250.000 225.000 200.000 250.000 145.000 117.000 270.000 160.000 270.000 345.000 130.000 291.000 300.000 250.000
[NSW] Super Bomberman R 63.149 69.000 65.000 56.789 75.000 175.000 65.000 100.000 50.000 45.000 120.000 85.000 70.000 140.000 90.000 140.000 150.000 60.000
[3DS] Monster Hunter XX: Double Cross 1.270.332 1.104.000 1.200.000 1.234.567 1.600.000 1.450.000 1.250.000 1.300.000 1.050.000 1.100.000 1.650.000 1.250.000 1.800.000 1.275.000 1.300.000 1.400.000 1.100.000 1.400.000
TOTAL ABS. DIFF. 429.626 218.672 357.199 692.962 992.962 348.626 482.962 394.924 414.246 1.057.962 182.368 867.962 837.962 345.542 729.962 723.626 509.260
MEAN ERROR % 20,04% 10,42% 23,26% 32,70% 66,00% 22,48% 39,00% 16,30% 21,50% 56,69% 14,82% 37,28% 67,23% 23,84% 59,00% 57,78% 26,88%
1st Coursemadstarr12astrogamer DrWong Tamanator LordKano MasterSheeJon Carter Nimby thestopsigYagami_Sam Bruno MB u_neek Eolz horuhe Mpl90
100.000 125.000 100.000 110.000 126.000 115.000 146.000 127.777 133.000 142.000 117.345 135.000 140.000 91.000 88.465 131.423
750.000 710.000 555.000 682.000 550.000 600.000 650.000 777.777 712.000 590.000 819.238 580.000 600.000 549.000 523.707 647.201
600.000 610.000 400.000 530.000 478.000 540.000 420.000 627.777 575.000 560.000 717.363 465.000 485.000 442.000 492.118 516.035
400.000 380.000 175.000 220.000 295.000 220.000 195.000 187.777 215.000 180.000 202.543 225.000 250.000 234.000 157.046 255.907
200.000 120.000 66.000 75.000 57.000 45.000 40.000 57.777 149.000 80.000 49.456 55.000 95.000 87.000 79.522 115.176
1.200.000 1.100.000 1.200.000 1.200.000 1.212.000 1.200.000 1.110.000 1.177.777 1.530.000 1.222.222 1.233.654 1.250.000 1.350.000 1.278.000 1.201.843 1.320.342
973.626 918.626 219.626 520.626 377.924 449.924 418.924 679.924 830.962 369.404 788.613 279.924 422.962 281.962 287.039 506.200
73,92% 61,91% 14,24% 30,64% 29,97% 29,63% 22,49% 30,83% 52,66% 22,05% 40,27% 21,09% 32,13% 28,55% 19,77% 41,46%
Code:
STATISTICS FAMITSU GAF_AVG UNDER OVER MIN MAX CLOSEST BY
[PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn 167.756 116.196 100% 0% 75.000 150.000 150.000 random25
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware 524.371 635.964 12% 88% 460.000 850.000 523.707 horuhe
[NSW + WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 388.152 510.379 3% 97% 325.000 717.363 400.000 noobie
[NSW] 1-2-Switch 138.790 228.402 6% 94% 117.000 400.000 145.000 metalslimer
[NSW] Super Bomberman R 63.149 88.688 30% 70% 40.000 200.000 65.000 Mory Dunz
[3DS] Monster Hunter XX: Double Cross 1.270.332 1.280.285 61% 39% 1.050.000 1.800.000 1.275.000 Calm Mind
I found a Japanese online site that has Switch in stock. The reason I guess they have any to sell is that they are selling them at a premium over retail at 37,000yen But even at the jacked up price they keep going in an out of stock.
Or you could get it used for 35,000yen
So weird to see a negative discount for used stuff.
But yeah, if you are willing to pay, you can get a Switch now.
Or you could get it used for 35,000yen
So weird to see a negative discount for used stuff.
But yeah, if you are willing to pay, you can get a Switch now.
Bruno MB
Member
I was preparing the May Prediction League but I have no idea about what to include.
There isn't any relevant new release other than Minecraft: Switch Edition. I guess I could include once again Nintendo Switch Hardware (3rd month) and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. There is an Attack on Titan title for 3DS but it is a visual novel.
Edit: I just realized the retail version of Minecraft: Switch Edition is coming later.
There isn't any relevant new release other than Minecraft: Switch Edition. I guess I could include once again Nintendo Switch Hardware (3rd month) and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. There is an Attack on Titan title for 3DS but it is a visual novel.
Edit: I just realized the retail version of Minecraft: Switch Edition is coming later.
New copies are not hard to get. I haven't seen it sold out anywhere since the week after launch. I saw one used copy at Book Off the other day. But it was only 500yen cheaper than a new copy so there is not a ton of motivation to buy used yet.
I am Setsuna on the other hand is starting to appear used at above the retail price. I know this because I have been trying to buy a copy but I won't pay more than retail for it. I should have bought it launch week but I figured there was no way it would sell out...
The price of used Disgaea 5 has also been going up slightly but you can still find new copies of that game around.
Jon Carter
Member
I did terrible. Luckily, even though nearly all my Switch predictions were too high in the end, the system is having much better legs than I was expecting, so I did end up being positively surprised by Switch sales. I'm disappointed by Zelda's performance, though. I knew my prediction was optimistic, but I didn't expect to be so far off the mark. It's odd that the attach ratio is so low compared with other countries. It's such a no-brainer purchase.
Hah. This is the normal way of things when stock is short, so this is actually a good way to know if the supply is still constrained or not!
When the discount starts veering positive, then supply will have started to reach demand levels.
Bruno MB
Member
Well, this is what we have, it will be a boring edition but we can't do nothing.
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) -
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) -
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) -
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) -
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Deadline: April 26 2017 09:00 am (EST)
Attention:
Rules:
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) -
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) -
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) -
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) -
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Deadline: April 26 2017 09:00 am (EST)
Attention:
- Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
- Multiplatform entries are the combined available sales of each platform described.
Rules:
- Do not edit your post after the deadline. If you do, you'll be disqualified.
- The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
- The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
- The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
- The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
- Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
Used games prices going above the retail price? What's happening? lol
SE produced a very limited run for IAS. Its pretty much gone.
I see my Zelda, 1 2 Switch and Monster Hunter prediction saved me This time
It's still weird that it went up. It's still used, and available digitally on different platforms. Can't believe that its physical version is in demand despite being an old game.
Code:
STATISTICS FAMITSU GAF_AVG UNDER OVER MIN MAX CLOSEST BY
[PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn 167.756 116.196 100% 0% 75.000 150.000 150.000 random25At least I won something this time lol.
Herb Alpert
Banned
So, naive and honest question, does it mean that porting I am setsuna was worth the investment? I am sure SQUEX didn't expect it to set the world on fire, maybe the numbers are good enough for them.
And lol at the MH talk again. I am longing for MH5 announcement just because it will end this endless discussions that are going full circle.
Capcom, just do a nonsensical and nihililistic move by making it XboxOne exclusive to piss off everyone
Well, for one, it runs like garbage on the Vita. So there's still a market, however small and a fragment of the largely already-satisfied market, that wants the product.
Maybe this calls for a small reprint from SE for a quick buck, especially if the copies still sell at full price at retail.
That is a great question and one I wish I had an answer for. When first week numbers came out many people were saying "bomba". And yeah, the sales numbers were not great. Then it dropped off the charts. At the time most assumed it was because it failed (I though so too), with that in mind, I started to see if I could get a copy on the cheap in a "bomba bin". But not only did I not find cheap new copies (or any new copies really), but I started seeing expensive used copies.
My guess? It did good enough for SE to go through their available stock but not good enough to compel them to do another run of copies.
I am worrying that Spelunker will be the same. I enjoyed the demo but it didn't feel like a game I wanted to buy new at retail price. It's the type I usually pick up on sale or used. But now I feel that it might be another very small run.
Online stores surely see demand from importers, but interesting to hear that the demand could be still good at street stores as well. The same for Disgaea 5. Even if this is a report from Vinnk's village only, we would've already heard / seen of games getting major discounts by now (as it happened with the 3DS, Wii U, and other times where games were severly oversupplied).
CircusOfClouds
Member
Bic Camera is still doing its weekly raffles every Saturday for the chance to buy a switch. Meanwhile, Yodobashi Camera has also been selling its weekly shipment on Saturday. I narrowly missed getting one at Yodobashi last Saturday (they got a pretty big shipment), but I was able to get my hands on a Famicom Mini (!!) instead. I am going to show up at opening this Saturday and see if I can snag one. Yep, demand is super high for the switch here. It's a keeper
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Monster hunter has actually progressed as much as much as it did in the west thanks to Nintendo marketing the game for capcom in the west, capcom is basically obligated to release MH on Nintendo from now on
They are really not, just as they weren't obligated to keep releasing on Sony after the PSP days.
D.Lo
Member
What did it offer early adopter Switch owners though? The game had already been released on home console and portable, if you were interested surely you already grabbed it.
Personally I think it would have made more money if it was released a bit cheaper one month in. Scratching that 'just finished Zelda' itch. I still want a copy but only after I've finished Zelda, so maybe I'm projecting my own desires...
I don't think there is any obligation. The PSP made MonHon the biggest 3rd part game in Japan yet Capcom jumped ship.
They could leap back to Sony. But without Sony introducing a new handheld I don't see why that would be a good play for this series in particular. Portability is one of the main factors that made the series a success.
Sure in the West being on a portable is not as important but it would be very bold to risk your core market in pursuit of another one.
Then again the "Capcom 5" made no sense either, but they still did that. So anything is possible.
you mean the gamecube games?? weren't all minus P.N.03 ported to the PS2?
I can't say if this is what happened in relation to "I am Setsuna" but there are a lot of people I know in Japan who do not own consoles. Just handhelds. If they had been 3DS owners before and moved to the Switch it would be new to them. I never played the VIta port but if it is as poor as some people say it was there would be motivation to buy the Switch version. Again there is not any data to support this, just an observation.
And then there are the "Nintendo or Nothing!" fans...
And importers who wanted a physical game card I suppose.
And me who is not sure he even wants the game but is now compelled to buy it before the price goes up any further (I realize I have a problem).
They are all small groups of people but it seems it was also a small shipment.
Yep. It was a very bad plan. And it didn't work.
D.Lo
Member
Also Remake and Zero. But the point being Capcom made a deal with Nintendo when a competitor would have offered more chance at sales. It was backtracked on but probably hurt sales long term. Instead of making a PS2-based RE4, it got a cut down inferior late Gamecube game. Even when you backtrack on decisions like that the initially spurned 'obvious choice' platform owners potentially aren't impressed with being ignored initially.
Hellraider
Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 300.000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 250.000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 10.000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 30.000
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 300.000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 250.000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 10.000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 30.000
Well I mean we're seeing Japanese publishers do that across the board. The infamous Vita to PS4 transition is exactly that.
Also Capcom is dumb.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I can see Capcom doing a 'Capcom 1' deal with Sony for MH5 on PS4. And when the game sells less than MH4U worldwide, even with Sony's marketing muscle, Capcom makes MH Portable 5 on the Switch.
I'll give Sony credit for making the Playstation ecosystem a thing in Japan. It's too bad the PS4 couldn't sustain it before the Vita died a slow death.
I feel like capcom makes a decision about supporting a console based on how much they like the hardware and not on whether said hardware has commercial potential or not.
You could tell they LOVED the PSP and not so much the DS, if we look at their first years in the market. both did well so it paid off.
back in the PS2NGC generation, capcom was hopelessly in love with the NGC, Mikami was a huge gamecube fanboy..
but regardless... this is history and right now there's no way capcom moves MH to the PS4 exclusively.
Not only because of lack of portability, also because on Switch, MH would be one in a handful of special third party exclusive games. on PS4 it will drown in a sea of major AAA games (in the west GTAV is STILL taking everybody's lunch after 3 years!)
You could tell they LOVED the PSP and not so much the DS, if we look at their first years in the market. both did well so it paid off.
back in the PS2NGC generation, capcom was hopelessly in love with the NGC, Mikami was a huge gamecube fanboy..
but regardless... this is history and right now there's no way capcom moves MH to the PS4 exclusively.
Not only because of lack of portability, also because on Switch, MH would be one in a handful of special third party exclusive games. on PS4 it will drown in a sea of major AAA games (in the west GTAV is STILL taking everybody's lunch after 3 years!)