KillerMan91
Member
How come PS2 had so weak december in 2000? Huge shortages because of western launch? Kinda weird to see it selling over 100k during random weeks in summer and then less during holidays.
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How come PS2 had so weak december in 2000? Huge shortages because of western launch? Kinda weird to see it selling over 100k during random weeks in summer and then less during holidays.
That's because they need more time to port RE Engine, which will be used for Monster Hunter 5 this fall exclusively on PS4.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Current Capcom is not really in too much of a risk taking position, I'm guessing they have Monster Hunter in development, but beyond that they were probably waiting to see how things played out. I imagine we'll see them shifting to support the Switch more heavily now.
Out of curiosity, do we know what's the stock situation for Zelda on Switch, both new and used? Easy to find?I've plotted the BOTW attach rate for Japan here, I think it's interesting to monitor it (for as long as we can anyway):
Code:Week Attach Rate 1 56,62 2 59,02 3 59,62 4 58,15 5 58,65 6 58,46 7 57,57
Maybe theres some bad blood between Nintendo and Capcom now that MH5 is, apparently, coming to PS4
Well Ultra Street Fighter 2 was featured in their Superbowl trailer and they're distributing it in Europe so I doubt it.
So you are saying Switch will become the third best selling console in Japan after DS and GB.
Eolz
Member
Honestly, being used to Takaki's comments over the years, while it was obvious it was going to be Senran Kagura on Switch, and while I hoped it'd be SK3 (since then, we know the next main game is called SK7), there was no reason to believe it'd be a big game.
Definitely. Capcom had some influence in the hardware as usual if I remember well, and as you've said, they've always had a great relationship. USF2 is a pretty interesting experiment on that side for example, and it's obvious that MonHun will be here at some point (multiplat or not). S-E has already shown more support than expected at the reveal.
The last Direct was a lot more promising than I thought in terms of japanese support tbh.
Niche pubs are there, and I wouldn't be surprised if some big ones are now just waiting for E3 since they already understand that western audiences are important for them now.
I doubt we'll have to wait for them as long as we had to wait big JP support switching from PS3 to PS4.
An absolutely horrible final result, if I may express my honest opinion on the matter. Oh, the tragedy.
That was quick! Thanks again!
Edit: What makes this table a nice read compared to graphs is that it makes easy to see the systems' baseline.
afaik they want to port re7 to it?
Kresnik258
Member
PS2 with that 4k baseline. PS4 has a chance yet!
By the end of golden week we should have over 800k Swiches sold with more than 1 million physical games.
Also on Famitsu, Breath of the Wild on Switch surpasses Skyward Sword, should also be above the Oracle games next week, Wii U version outsells Twilight Princess HD and could outsell the GameCube Four Swords game (worst selling original Zelda) and maybe Hyrule Warriors too.
Also on Famitsu, Breath of the Wild on Switch surpasses Skyward Sword, should also be above the Oracle games next week, Wii U version outsells Twilight Princess HD and could outsell the GameCube Four Swords game (worst selling original Zelda) and maybe Hyrule Warriors too.
Skullwaker
Member
That 4k PS2 baseline and 3k 3DS baseline. No wonder they were huge flops in Japan.
/s
Hero of Legend
Member
Today's COMG update:
1. NSW Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 195 pt
2. 3DS Dragon Quest 11 - 108 pt
3. NSW Splatoon 2 - 99 pt
4. 3DS Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission X - 97 pt
5. PS4 Dragon Quest 11 - 96 pt
Japanese Nintendo eShop Charts - as of April 19th, 2017, 23:50 GMT {tracked period: 2017.04.05 - 2017.04.19}
1. SnipperClips: Cut it out together! (Nintendo)
2. Kamiko (Skipmore)
3. Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (DotEmu)
4. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo)
5. Unholy Heights (Petit Depotto)
6. ACA NeoGeo: Metal Slug (Hamster)
7. 1-2-Switch (Nintendo)
8. ACA NeoGeo: The King of Fighters '98 (Hamster)
9. ACA NeoGeo: Metal Slug 3 (Hamster)
10. ACA NeoGeo: Samurai Showdown IV (Hamster)
11. ACA NeoGeo: Alpha Mission II (Hamster)
12. Othello (Arc System Works)
13. New Frontier Days: Founding Pioneers (Arc System Works)
14. VOEZ (Rayark Inc.)
15. Disgaea 5: Complete (NIS)
1. SnipperClips: Cut it out together! (Nintendo)
2. Kamiko (Skipmore)
3. Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (DotEmu)
4. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo)
5. Unholy Heights (Petit Depotto)
6. ACA NeoGeo: Metal Slug (Hamster)
7. 1-2-Switch (Nintendo)
8. ACA NeoGeo: The King of Fighters '98 (Hamster)
9. ACA NeoGeo: Metal Slug 3 (Hamster)
10. ACA NeoGeo: Samurai Showdown IV (Hamster)
11. ACA NeoGeo: Alpha Mission II (Hamster)
12. Othello (Arc System Works)
13. New Frontier Days: Founding Pioneers (Arc System Works)
14. VOEZ (Rayark Inc.)
15. Disgaea 5: Complete (NIS)
Sammy Samusu
Member
Zelda should be selling a lot more to be honest.
What are those people playing? The waiting game?
What are those people playing? The waiting game?
theprodigy
Member
you guys need to chill with the daily comgnet posts lmao
Eolz
Member
Amazon rankings are next!
Comgnet preorder stats / comparisons, as of April 20th, 2017
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 170pt
[WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 192pt
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 195pt
[3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission - 125pt
[3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 - 101pt
[3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X - 97pt
[3DS] Fire Emblem Awakening - 201pt
[3DS] Fire Emblem Fates - 134pt + 98pt + 40pt = 272pt
[3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia - 67pt + 29pt = 96pt
[3DS] Pro Jakyuu Famista Climax - 29pt
[PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition - 26pt
[PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2 - 20pt
[PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2-2 - 19pt + 14pt = 33pt
Note: in the past few years, the ratio between preorder points and thousands of units sold have costantly decreased, and the past few months saw several examples of a much lower ratio than usual for several games (i.e. more actual thousands sold per preorder point), considering their platforms and genres (The Last Guardian, Poochy and Yoshi's Wolly World, Nioh, Final Fantasy XV as the first major examples).
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 170pt
[WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 192pt
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 195pt
[3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission - 125pt
[3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 - 101pt
[3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X - 97pt
[3DS] Fire Emblem Awakening - 201pt
[3DS] Fire Emblem Fates - 134pt + 98pt + 40pt = 272pt
[3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia - 67pt + 29pt = 96pt
[3DS] Pro Jakyuu Famista Climax - 29pt
[PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition - 26pt
[PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2 - 20pt
[PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2-2 - 19pt + 14pt = 33pt
Note: in the past few years, the ratio between preorder points and thousands of units sold have costantly decreased, and the past few months saw several examples of a much lower ratio than usual for several games (i.e. more actual thousands sold per preorder point), considering their platforms and genres (The Last Guardian, Poochy and Yoshi's Wolly World, Nioh, Final Fantasy XV as the first major examples).
Dark Cloud
Member
Idk. Some of you keep saying Zelda isn't selling well in Japan, but I'm seeing the eshop showing Zelda is a top 3 seller. These media creates don't take eshop into their numbers.
frankie_baby
Member
While meaningless without numbers I'm inclined to think the digital sales are healthy, switch owners as early adopters are likely pretty tech savy so i could see the digital percentage being decent
Nobody's saying Zelda isn't selling well (because it's selling well especially considering the decline of the franchise in Japan recently). Some people are a bit disappointed with the attach rate (which is still fine).
Dark Cloud
Member
I know nobody is disappointed because Zelda has dropped off in Japan. I think it's hard to know the exact attach rate when we don't see the eshop numbers. Zelda has consistently been in the top 3 there I think unlike the west where it may crack the top 10. It tells me the west buys Zelda physical and Japan is buying it digitally more compared to the west.
thestopsign
Member
Not necessarily. The Zelda number we got for America was from Nintendo and probably included whatever digital sales the game had, so it's hard to draw an exact conclusion that it doesn't sell as well digitally in the US.
Calm Mind
Member
They've taking nothing but risks this generation (barring MonHun of course).
Sequels to Dead Rising that went nowhere at retail on the Xbox One.
SFV underperforming by a large margin despite console exclusivity on the sales leader of the generation.
Resident Evil Relations 2, Umbrella Corps, RE7 underperforming in Japan
MonHun Stories...
I'm sure there are more I haven't listed like there mobile games but you get the idea.
Capcom takes risks. They're just terrible ones.
Dark Cloud
Member
That's fine, but atleast we got attach rate numbers (total). Japan hasn't said anything.
Heh, I don't think we'll ever really know what the e-shop numbers are and honestly wouldn't really count on them being that big but who knows.
Just because all their shit underperformed doesn't mean they took risk with all of them.
-DR was not a very risky project, bringing back a fan favorite character and trying to make the game more "accessible". It was just a mediocre game and the way they brought Frank West back was just awful.
-SFV is not a risky project at all especially with Sony helping, they just fucked up again.
-RER 2 was a cheap episodic game, Umbrella Corps was them trying to pursue the online shooter trend and failing utterly.
I don't know... I don't think you can call something guaranteed to turn out bad a risk.
RE7 was risky enough, also Dogma something something Deep There(tm).
Sammy Samusu
Member
Ruthless.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Capcom has a ton of easy ports from the PS4 to Switch, that they could do with Resident Evil. RE0 and REmake HD Remastered, RE 4, 5 and 6 HD Remastered, RE:Revelations 2 port, RE7 and then REmake 2. They could also release a MvC game for Switch.
I think RE7 being risky is debatable. I can see both sides of the argument.
Oh.. I think ports of older releases will happen anyway if the system keeps up with the sales. I'm talking about what new flagship titles I see heading to Switch.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
RE7 was the cheaper option to full blown RE 6 sequel hardly a very risky option.
Issue is the miss out no brained less risky high return options aswell. So many bad decisions in general.
Skullwaker
Member
I would absolutely kill for REmake 2 on the Switch. Revelations on the Wii U was my introduction to the series and since then I've been collecting the PS4 RE games. It'd be nice to be able to play a new RE game on a Nintendo system again.
NightwingRebirth
Member
Maybe theres some bad blood between Nintendo and Capcom now that MH5 is, apparently, coming to PS4
Was there something recent I missed, or is still those old 4chan rumours? Still hoping it's not true.
Skullwaker
Member
As far as I'm aware, it's still a rumor. I can't even imagine Capcom being dumb enough to make MH5 exclusive to the PS4. Multiplatform with the Switch? Possibly. But to make it PS4 exclusive would be a baffling decision.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Unless Sony were throwing astronomical amounts of money at Capcom i just dont see how it would be a PS4 exclusive, especially with early switch sales being promising.
frankie_baby
Member
I'd still assume the most likely possibility for MH5 is being Switch exclusive with a slim chance of it being multiplat, no way in hell would it be ps4 exclusive
Edit - actually maybe 3ds/switch multiplat could be a possibility too
Edit - actually maybe 3ds/switch multiplat could be a possibility too
Nintendos involvement in Monster Hunter might be even bigger and they will promote it even more if it's one of the showcase titles for their paid online service.
That's likely also the reason why it wasn't ready for launch and won't have cross play with a 3DS MH title. But we will see...
That's likely also the reason why it wasn't ready for launch and won't have cross play with a 3DS MH title. But we will see...
Father_Brain
Banned
I'd say more than a slim chance, given Capcom's comments from last year about their desire to expand the Western audience and handhelds being a small portion of the market there.