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Like he doesn't think about anything, just charges into everywhere, he's a dick to Mona, his testosterone level ruins every scene he's in (and I'm a total perv), he only cares about fame and glory, and he's just a complete airhead.

Spoilers through palace 6
At least he realizes how awful he has been in regards to the fame thing.
 
Accidently letting Makoto overhear their conversation sure, but are you saying you don't want Makoto to join? :p


And the Morgana/Ryuji fued started from the get-go. Morgana's insecurities caused him to become very vulnerable at that point of the story and thus couldn't take the same kind of thuggish remarks Ryuji had constantly used the entire game in that moment.

Considering what I read about Hifumi being planned for playable I'd gladly switch Makoto for Hifumi. Makoto is residentsleeper.jpg and I think a chuunibyou main character who serves as your tactical advisor in combat would have been amazing. Instead we yukiko x chie but with none of the quirks that made either of them enjoyable characters.

Well Morgana
spends the whole game treating Ryuji like shit so I fail to see how it's his fault that when he fires back one time like he always does Morgana just freaks out and throws a tantrum.

Except he's right
Ryuji is too stupid too live, causes more problems for the team and brings nothing valuable to the table story wise outside of being muscle.
 

Zafir

Member
Well Morgana
spends the whole game treating Ryuji like shit so I fail to see how it's his fault that when he fires back one time like he always does Morgana just freaks out and throws a tantrum.

Yeah, I agree with that.

The Morgana stuff isn't why I find Ryuji so meh really. It's more his obsession with fame that gets really tiring.
 

Toki767

Member
Yeah, I agree with that.

The Morgana stuff isn't why I find Ryuji so meh really. It's more his obsession with fame that gets really tiring.
That's kind of a realistic obsession though.

It's partially basically Akechi's reason too.
 

Zesh

Member
Huh, apparently the maximum yen you can carry at once is capped at 9,999,999. Hope I didn't waste too much time while at the cap.
 
Naw, at the end of a confidant you can choose either a romantic relationship or friendship.
There's no consequence to going out with multiple girls aside from one scene at the end.
Thank god. I can waifu Makoto, the Dr and the teacher then...hopefully. Though Teach has the Guts stat requirement.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
You haven't? But he was a mini-
boss in Palace 6
... Anyway that's some luck. Thor is one of my favorite Megaten demons!

he was in
palace 6
? I dont remember that at all lol
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Huh, apparently the maximum yen you can carry at once is capped at 9,999,999. Hope I didn't waste too much time while at the cap.

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed by that because when I did the Pulinpa grind, I was expecting 99 Mil to be the max. Only to see I ended up wasting a bunch of time. lol
 
Now i must know how you find Yukiko or Chie enjoyable characters. Not that i get how you get Makoto from those two.

I wonder if you found any of the hidden interactions with Makoto prior to her joining.
 

Hylian7

Member
After 4th dungeon and it's time limit expires:
Futaba becomes playable, right?! Why does she have HP and SP, but you can't take her with you in Mementos?
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Makoto is the fucking best through palace
3
. After that she kind of mellows out a little too much.

I too was expecting more out of her personality (Palace 3)
post-Awakening
. I was a little bummed that she's still so straight-tempered otherwise. She's still a really good character in my eyes though. Solid arc.

After 4th dungeon and it's time limit expires:
Futaba becomes playable, right?! Why does she have HP and SP, but you can't take her with you in Mementos?

Nope! I know, it's weird. She can have an equipped armor and accessory as well, but they don't seem to affect battle in my experience. Unless things like the DLC accessories affect the party even while she wears them.
 
After 4th dungeon and it's time limit expires:
Futaba becomes playable, right?! Why does she have HP and SP, but you can't take her with you in Mementos?

No she remains your support character like fuuka. I don't know why they put her in the menu to be honest
 

Opa-Pa

Member
After 4th dungeon and it's time limit expires:
Futaba becomes playable, right?! Why does she have HP and SP, but you can't take her with you in Mementos?

She becomes playable after some plot related events, but she's just a navigator as you probably guessed.

They let you equip her stuff but only Luck makes a difference, I think.
 
Considering what I read about Hifumi being planned for playable I'd gladly switch Makoto for Hifumi. Makoto is residentsleeper.jpg and I think a chuunibyou main character who serves as your tactical advisor in combat would have been amazing. Instead we yukiko x chie but with none of the quirks that made either of them enjoyable characters.
Now i must know how you find Yukiko or Chie enjoyable characters. Not that i get how you get Makoto from those two.

I wonder if you found any of the hidden interactions with Makoto prior to her joining.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of chie, but she at least had believeable interests and quirks and had a consistent character where I could accurately predict how she'd react during various scenes. Chie and Yukiko also have their friendship with each other and Yosuke from before Yu arrives which helps to inform those characters and they get great development with each other in Yukiko's palace. Any issues I had with any individual member of the p4 cast is covered up by the strength and bond of that games cast where I'd watch an infinite number of scenes with them. I was pretty far into p4 when I got a vita and p4g and I enjoyed replaying everything I'd previously done. If p5 golden came out tomorrow for vita/switch/ps4 I'd probably just stick with finishing p5 and wait to get p5g until it was cheap. Makoto feels so disconnected from the rest of the team and her slink is so bad it doesn't lead to her having much of a connection to Joker either.

And I only saw Makoto spying on me once, 90% of the time I just quick travel everywhere since walking around the maps in p5 isn't fun.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Yea one of the few wierd missteps. I made a habit of saving every morning so i can reload inside Leblanc just in case. Easily remedied.
Not really because that only works for holidays when you spawn inside Leblanc. For other days you spawn at school once it finishes and have to wait until evening to get back in.
 

FHIZ

Member
Okay, what the hell is with Palace #5? It's long as hell, all the enemies seem to be resistant to damn near everything, all the items I'm getting in chest are like barely better than the ones you start the game with, and the XP/money won from battles is incredibly low.

Why!?
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Is there any reason why you get to ask demons two questions during negotiation?

It seems the first question doesn't matter at all as I can get bad/good and capture the persona, but good/bad will fail. It doesn't seem to make sense unless good/good gets some kind of benefit...
 

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
Okay, what the hell is with Palace #5? It's long as hell, all the enemies seem to be resistant to damn near everything, all the items I'm getting in chest are like barely better than the ones you start the game with, and the XP/money won from battles is incredibly low.

Why!?

I've said it before but I don't get how Palace 5 is longer than 3. And the enemies aren't resistant to everything WTF lol? It's still one of the easiest and shortest palaces so far.

Palace 6 is the shortest (but the best). Palace 7 is probably the longest. But it doesn't suck unlike Palace 3.
 
For the record, the English dub is not pronouncing "Sakamoto" correctly right?
I honestly don't think the English dub is pronouncing anything right.
I've said it before but I don't get how Palace 5 is longer than 3. And the enemies aren't resistant to everything WTF lol? It's still one of the easiest and shortest palaces so far.

Palace 6 is the shortest (but the best). Palace 7 is probably the longest. But it doesn't suck unlike Palace 3.
Palace 3 has horrible music. Such a downgrade from the Palace 2 music.
 

Zafir

Member
That's kind of a realistic obsession though.

It's partially basically Akechi's reason too.

Kind of, but it's just irritatingly one-dimensional. It get's very repetitive. Just like his constant usage of "For real!?".

I honestly don't think the English dub is pronouncing anything right.

That's not true. I've listened to quite a bit of the Japanese voices, and quite a few names, they do actually say right in English.
 
Can you lose days in the game?

Like if you finish a palace when there was 7 days left, is it better to wait until the last possible moment and use the other days to improve confidant relationts and social skills?

I have been doing that in the first two palaces, but in the third one
you have two weeks to find the mafia boss, and I did that with 8 days left. I'm wondering if I lost those days or if they are going to be added to the 3rd palace.

Sorry if this was asked before but I'm not following the thread at all.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
For the record, the English dub is not pronouncing "Sakamoto" correctly right?

Atlas requested this for some weird reason. Same with the other mispronunciations.

I honestly don't think the English dub is pronouncing anything right.

Really?

Can you lose days in the game?

Like if you finish a palace when there was 7 days left, is it better to wait until the last possible moment and use the other days to improve confidant relationts and social skills?

I have been doing that in the first two palaces, but in the third one
you have two weeks to find the mafia boss, and I did that with 8 days left. I'm wondering if I lost those days or if they are going to be added to the 3rd palace.

Sorry if this was asked before but I'm not following the thread at all.

You get to use them all after you finish.
 

Opa-Pa

Member
Is there any reason why you get to ask demons two questions during negotiation?

It seems the first question doesn't matter at all as I can get bad/good and capture the persona, but good/bad will fail. It doesn't seem to make sense unless good/good gets some kind of benefit...

I found it odd at first too, but I'm pretty sure it's to give you a chance to check what kind of answer works with that kind of demon. If you reply with something absurd and they're happy with it, you can sort of guess what will work with the second question too.
 
I just beat the game and it sure was long. It really started to drag a little on the final half.

Minor Endgame Spoilers.
The mini boss rush at the end of the last palace was harder than the final boss itself.

Is it me or is this game really stingy on giving you items that replenish your SP? So many boss fights were such a pain since I was constantly low on it by the time I reached them.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
I found it odd at first too, but I'm pretty sure it's to give you a chance to check what kind of answer works with that kind of demon. If you reply with something absurd and they're happy with it, you can sort of guess what will work with the second question too.

Right, I figured it might be this. was just curious if I was missing something. Thanks.

Palace 3 has horrible music. Such a downgrade from the Palace 2 music.

The first half of Palace three music is ok, the second half is fantastic.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Is there any reason why you get to ask demons two questions during negotiation?

It seems the first question doesn't matter at all as I can get bad/good and capture the persona, but good/bad will fail. It doesn't seem to make sense unless good/good gets some kind of benefit...

I'm not sure of the exact formula but it seemed like a lot of the time you would get an item and they would escape if you got one wrong and the other right.
 
Palace 5 is worse then Palace 3, palace 3 goes on forever, and palace 5 has lots of tedious back tracking in each room and generally bad gimmicks that make what should be a shorter dungeons one of the longest and downright miserable to play.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
I'm not sure of the exact formula but it seemed like a lot of the time you would get an item and they would escape if you got one wrong and the other right.

That's if you end with an "ok" answer.

There are three:

Red Crosses = Bad
Water drops = Ok
Notes = Good

End with the middle answer and they deny bonding with you but give you an item because they kind of like you.
 
I just beat the game and it sure was long. It really started to drag a little on the final half.

Minor Endgame Spoilers.
The mini boss rush at the end of the last palace was harder than the final boss itself.

Is it me or is this game really stingy on giving you items that replenish your SP? So many boss fights were such a pain since I was constantly low on it by the time I reached them.

If you're trying to beat a palace in one go you just have to be mad conservative with SP moves. Hermit recharges inactive members SP and Empress gives you access to sun tomatoes which heals 100 SP for all.

As soon as i had access to the Invigorate 3 accessory I equipped it to MC and had him do all the SP heavy lifting and the rest of my party would never go below 50% SP before the Calling Card
 

sjay1994

Member
Palace 5 is worse then Palace 3, palace 3 goes on forever, and palace 5 has lots of tedious back tracking in each room and generally bad gimmicks that make what should be a shorter dungeons one of the longest and downright miserable to play.

Oh boy. Get ready for palace
7

I thought palace 5 was fine, but that palace I named feels like it goes and goes and goes. The boss fight is rad as fuck though.
 
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