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[Shikamaru Ninja]

Every one of you that insists that gaming is, "mature" and should be recognized as an art needs to look at its community and threads like this and realize just how childish it and they are. This is some toddler shit, scared because something doesn't look like how you want it to. SMDH

This is a tame argument in the grand scheme of things. This doesn't begin to touch some of the dark corners of the internet. (No pun intended).

 

[Mega]

But no ones saying that the Inklings are African American, just that they don't have light skin tones.

I didn't mean black = African American specifically.

Posters are using "black" to mean "not white".

And that's incorrect and limited because not every non-white person identifies as black. It's just a fact for many cultural and ethnic groups and nationalities.

I mean, what the hell does "black" mean to you if Andaman doesn't fit the definition?

Anyway, I don't think anyone dislikes the idea that multiple kinds of people can identify with one character. If anything, race is far more varied than people think regardless.

I don't know Andaman. Whether someone can be considered black depends on their African background, their own unique ancestry and what their people as a whole regard themselves. We can't speak for them just because we think we're black and they just happen to have similar dark skin. That's ethnocentric crap. I agree with your second paragraph and it's all I've been saying. I'm on board with increased diversity in Nintendo characters.

 

[Kebiinu]

It's up to those people, their ancestry and what THEY call themselves. It's not up to me from reading a blurb and eyeballing a few images.

My earlier argument is this: the Inklings are black and brown for all of us black and brown people. I'm not one of the "lol not black" shitposters. That's all there is to it.

When we say 'black' we mean PoC. You've literally been arguing about nothing. The offense you feel is on you. People just have a problem with the word 'black' when most of y'all don't even understand what blackness is.

My parents are Brazilian, but I identify as Black, or AfroLatino. Still black af, culture is different from African Americans, but I'm still black. Literally no one in this topic were saying these Inklings were African Americans. We're saying they're black, cause they are.

'Black' is an umbrella term for all cultures of color, tbh. Ethnicity=/=Black. Which is what a lot of y'all are trying to insinuate to support your arguments. It doesn't work. Hence why multiple people here don't even bother taking half of y'all serious...

This topic is now a joke, tbh.

 

[Vidiot]

Race wars. Close enough

Clever. Lol

 

[Izuna]

I didn't mean black = African American specifically.



And that's incorrect and limited because not every non-white person identifies as black. It's just a fact for many cultural and ethnic groups and nationalities.



I don't know Andaman. Whether someone can be considered black depends on their African background, their own unique ancestry and what their people as a whole regard themselves. We can't speak for them just because we think we're black and they just happen to have similar dark skin. That's ethnocentric crap.

I just don't understand what definition of "black" you are using if not to refer to their skin colour. Andaman are blit, but have been separated from Africa for (approx./at least) 23,000 years. edit:26,000 according to wikipedia but I guess I didn't think to look there. w/e

I mean, if you don't want to consider them as black, then I'm just honestly curious as to what that word means to you.

 

[The Artisan]

There are Indians, South East Asian, Native Americans, Inuit/Eskimo, Pacific Islanders, and many non-black people with that complexion or close to it. If I were native Hawaiian for example I could see myself in that Inkling and someone telling me nah, they're black, they're not you, isn't a great feeling.

I take no issue with saying the characters are black. But I do take offense to saying they can only be regarded as black. Some in this thread are getting irritated that someone would say they can also be brown, and that just makes no sense to me. The brown argument is inclusiveness, not a dirty handwaving tactic.

who is getting irritated at calling the inklings brown?

It should be.

why?

 

[Platy]

What I don't understand is how some people are focusing too much in "the representation must be wanted to count".

Like Birdetta and Poison are pratically trans representation by accident =P
They were not made with good intention towards trans people.... but it is awesome that we have them and people can see represented in them !

And no, having one "main" character and a few of footnotes count as the company not caring because holy shit is the bar THAT low ?

Nintendo history shows that they do not see the inkling as black people.
No, that does not matter in the grand scheme of things since people who need that representation will not know/care about this.

It is almost the "any representation is better than no representation" vs "bad representation is worst than no representation" argument

 

[Izuna]

Nintendo history shows that they do not see the inkling as black people.
No, that does not matter in the grand scheme of things since people who need that representation will not know/care about this.

I'll say again

Tales from your ass

 

[Kebiinu]

What I don't understand is how some people are focusing too much in "the representation must be wanted to count".

Like Birdetta and Poison are pratically trans representation by accident =P
They were not made with good intention towards trans people.... but it is awesome that we have them and people can see represented in them !

And no, having one "main" character and a few of footnotes count as the company not caring because holy shit is the bar THAT low ?

Nintendo history shows that they do not see the inkling as black people.
No, that does not matter in the grand scheme of things since people who need that representation will not know/care about this.

It is almost the "any representation is better than no representation" argument

If the Inklings are not black, what are they? Tanned Japanese? Tanned Inklings? White Squids? Do tell.

Edit: Just lmfao @ the amount of posters coming in with these paragraphs from 'both sides.' Your wisdom is not needed here, trust me.

 

[Vital Tundra]

I come back from when the topic was like 3 pages and woooooow what the fuck are people arguing against?

There are black Inklings in Mario Kart and Splatoon, and thats a cool thing. What more is there to disagree and discuss on besides how awesome it is?

 

[13randO]

I come back from when the topic was like 3 pages and woooooow what the fuck are people arguing against?

There are black Inklings in Mario Kart and Splatoon, and thats a cool thing. What more is there to disagree and discuss on besides how awesome it is?

This my dude. This.

 

[Mega]

When we say 'black' we mean PoC. You've literally been arguing about nothing. The offense you feel is on you. People just have a problem with the word 'black' when most of y'all don't even understand what blackness is.

My parents are Brazilian, but I identify as Black, or AfroLatino. Still black af, culture is different from African Americans, but I'm still black. Literally no one in this topic were saying these Inklings were African Americans. We're saying they're black, cause they are.

'Black' is an umbrella term for all cultures of color, tbh. Ethnicity=/=Black. Which is what a lot of y'all are trying to insinuate to support your arguments. It doesn't work. Hence why multiple people here don't even bother taking half of y'all serious...

This topic is now a joke, tbh.

Third time, I didn't mean black = African American.

And no, you don't speak for everyone. Black is not a catch-all/umbrella term for all peoples of color around the world. It never has been. Where did you read or hear this? Many people consider themselves as other terms like brown, indigenous, mixed, Inuit, Pacific Islander, generally Asian, hispanic or Latino of non-black descent, etc. And each is legitimate in its own right. I posted earlier the native Hawaiian stats that put their numbers that identity as black as very low single digit percentage. Telling them that you know better and they're all black is absurd.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

Official Alternative Facts List For This Thread
- Black inklings aren't black, they're white tan inklings.
- Despite Monolith being Nintendo, Elma doesn't count as a Nintendo character

I'll keep it updated

Yeah anyone who says either of these are straight up idiots.

Anywayz: Noticed it back in January but glad to have black Inklings in MK8D. Black Inklings should also be in Smash 5 when it launches so thats good too.

And Ever Oasis is 100% a Nintendo game so another PoC there. (Tho maybe not black?) and that game also has a girl option which is neat tho they never showed what she looked like. Too bad it feels like this game will bomb. I really hope it doesn't.

In Pokemon you can also play as black girl/boy. Atleast in the new ones. Any remake may also dumbly not allow custom characters however.

The next AC game should also have black characters which is great. Hopefully the next FE protagonist has black options.

As someone thats white, I hope theres more black Nintendo characters in the future, for Pokemon Moon and the second year of Splatoon I actually started playing as a black character just because seeing white in pretty much every game gets so damn boring. And of course great for black people to have more representation. Its ridiculous how lopsided it is. While I will likely never realize my dream of creating a game, if I did it would be a black protagonist just because of how lopsided it is and how few there are. I mean damn.

Edit: Also Splatoon 2's main inkling is a PoC too!

 

[Jinfash]

This actually got me thinking... I understand why this hasn't happened before since there aren't POC on Nintendo's humanoid mascots, but would it be hugely controversial for Nintendo and fans if there was the option to swap skin tones for existing mascots?

Have the standard link as the default character, but give the option to make him black. This goes for MK and other Nintendo games. This should satisfy the creative freedom of the designers and fans looking for diverse representation alike.

 

[rhandino]

Nintendo history shows that they do not see the inkling as black people.
No, that does not matter in the grand scheme of things since people who need that representation will not know/care about this.

hahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

This thread is a dumpster fire even if the original intentions were nice.

Oh well, today I learned that Nintendo does not see dark skinned Inklings as black people and that every time I see a dark skinned character from Japan it HAS to be a tan because I can't belive this company is catering to "those people" instead of me!!!

 

[Kebiinu]

Third time, I didn't mean black = Afircan American.

And no, you don't speak for everyone. Black is not a catch-all/umbrella term for all peoples of color around the world. It never has been. Where did you read or hear this? Many people consider themselves as other terms like brown, indigenous, mixed, Inuit, Pacific Islander, generally Asian, hispanic or Latino of non-black descent, etc. And each is legitimate in its own right. I posted earlier the native Hawaiian stats that put their numbers that identity as black as very low single digit percentage. Telling them that you know better and they're all black is absurd.

So you have a problem with the word 'black'. Gotcha. That's all you needed to say. Nice hill you're standing on, btw.

 

[Vital Tundra]

This actually got me thinking... I understand why this hasn't happened before since there aren't POC on Nintendo's humanoid mascots, but would it be hugely controversial for Nintendo and fans if there was the option to swap skin tones for existing mascots?

Have the standard link as the default character, but give the option to make him black. This goes for MK and other Nintendo games.

I think you should be able to alter Link for sure. Skin and hair color changes would be great in the next Zelda, of course with having Zelda playable as well with skin and hair color options.

 

[Izuna]

So you have a problem with the word 'black'. Gotcha. That's all you needed to say. Nice hill you're standing on, btw.

Yeah, that's basically it.

 

[Alienfan]

I didn't mean black = African American specifically.



And that's incorrect and limited because not every non-white person identifies as black. It's just a fact for many cultural and ethnic groups and nationalities.

Maybe you're right and "black" isn't the right word, but the dictionary definition still means person with dark skin. Which for Inkling Girl, she absolutely fits that category. People might not think of themselves as black, and that's fine, so they will interpret the character to be brown or whatever ethnicity they are. I don't think either interpretation is right or wrong, because there isn't an official race attached to the characters, people can interpret any of these characters to be whatever. I think that's what the developers were going for anyway, by giving a small range of skin tones, as opposed to just a white /black version for each gender - people will pick the one that they think best represents them

 

[Mega]

So you have a problem with the word 'black'. Gotcha. That's all you needed to say. Nice hill you're standing on, btw.

If you wanna be reductive and post shitposts for the mere purpose of starting shit and being disingenious? "Sure. That's what I said."

But seriously, get the hell out of here. I summed up my thoughts earlier. The Inklings are black and brown and can/will represent all of us black and brown people. I explain the simple fact that many people around the world are not black and don't regard themselves as such, and it has nothing to do with having a problem with the word "black" or black people. I don't know why you can't respect that.

 

[Platy]

I'll say again

Tales from your ass

If the Inklings are not black, what are they? Tanned Japanese? Tanned Inklings? White Squids? Do tell.

Edit: Just lmfao @ the amount of posters coming in with these paragraphs from 'both sides.' Your wisdom is not needed here, trust me.

I am just saying that Nintendo history with black characters does not give much hope for the fact that the original idea in the creation of said inkling was "lets make a black person".

I love the gameplay of nintendo games but diversity is NOT their strongest suit.
Their black character roster is FULL of mammys and borderline blackface type of characters...and that is ignoring stuff like the already mentioned animal crossing tan and turning characters that were black into white in sequels.

...And how that makes no difference about how that is actual awesome representation since, as the thread says, IS THE FIRST NON MII BLACK CHARACTERS. So in the same way we can overlook birdetta and poison's flaws for their being the first trans characters, we can overlook the initial idea of a very conservative and nationalistic company.

My posts are not a "both sides", it is a "accidental win"

 

[OmegaSmash]

Has someone brought the "they aren't actually black, they're okinawan!" excuse?

 

[Mega]

Maybe you're right and "black" isn't the right word, but the dictionary definition still means person with dark skin. Which for Inkling Girl, she absolutely fits that category. People might not think of themselves as black, and that's fine, so they will interpret the character to be brown or whatever ethnicity they are. I don't think either interpretation is right or wrong, because there isn't a official race attached to the characters

Exactly my point. We're all on the same pro diversity side as PoC.

 

[King Gilga]

When we say 'black' we mean PoC. You've literally been arguing about nothing. The offense you feel is on you. People just have a problem with the word 'black' when most of y'all don't even understand what blackness is.

My parents are Brazilian, but I identify as Black, or AfroLatino. Still black af, culture is different from African Americans, but I'm still black. Literally no one in this topic were saying these Inklings were African Americans. We're saying they're black, cause they are.

'Black' is an umbrella term for all cultures of color, tbh. Ethnicity=/=Black. Which is what a lot of y'all are trying to insinuate to support your arguments. It doesn't work. Hence why multiple people here don't even bother taking half of y'all serious...

This topic is now a joke, tbh.

As a brown person, who's hung out with brown people all my life in multiple countries never once in my life have I ever seen black used to identify us or our 'culture(s)'.

That's crazy talk.

Black is not an umbrella term for every non white person, PoC is.

 

[Kebiinu]

If you wanna be reductive and post shitposts for the mere purpose of starting shit and being disingenious? "Sure. That's what I said."

But seriously, get the hell out of here. I summed up my thoughts earlier. The Inklings are black and brown and can/will represent all of us black and brown people. I explain the simple fact that many people around the world are not black and don't regard themselves as such, and it has nothing to do with having a problem with the word "black" or black people. I don't know why you can't respect that.

I can't respect it because you literally came in with "I don't think they're black, I think they're brown. I don't feel comfortable with black people assuming they're black because I have feelings too, and I don't identify with black. So don't condescend me and my emotions."

Literally conjuring up an argument out of absolutely nothing. No one had a problem with someone calling them brown, we had a problem with people saying they're not black because arbitrary bullshit. Even had a few Hispanic posters excited too, but we didn't say, "Fuck YOU. They're black like US!"

So spare me with your weak ass argument that you're now back pedaling on.

If you came in with, "Oh this is dope. Now people like me can identify with the Inklings." people wouldn't be ragging on you.

I've also been in this topic since jump, already had my bout with racists and ignorance. So your redundant posts are quite the joke.

Lol.

As a brown person, who's hung out with brown people all my life in multiple countries never once in my life have I ever seen black used to identify us or our 'culture(s)'.

That's crazy talk.

Black is not an umbrella term for every non white person.

Have you seen the news? You have brown skin, you're a thug. So you're black.

If you feel better with the label PoC, be my guest, homeboy.

Edit: Do y'all not realize what Blackness is? Honestly.

"the fact or state of belonging to any human group having dark-colored skin."

Y'all are uncomfortable with the word black, it's fine. Lol.

 

[The Artisan]

As a brown person, who's hung out with brown people all my life in multiple countries never once in my life have I ever seen black used to identify us or our 'culture(s)'.

That's crazy talk.

i'm brown too. i've kinda been mistaken for black but i've never identified as black. in fact, when i was a kid and i saw black people (basically just other dark skinned people like me) i thought we were all just "brown". i didn't really see black people as like a different race, granted i was a little kid.

 

[Nepenthe]

I am just saying that Nintendo history with black characters does not give much hope for the fact that the original idea in the creation of said inkling was "lets make a black person".

I love the gameplay of nintendo games but diversity is NOT their strongest suit.
Their black character roster is FULL of mammys and borderline blackface type of characters...and that is ignoring stuff like the already mentioned animal crossing tan and turning characters that were black into white in sequels.

...And how that makes no difference about how that is actual awesome representation since, as the thread says, IS THE FIRST NON MII BLACK CHARACTERS. So in the same way we can overlook birdetta and poison's flaws for their being the first trans characters, we can overlook the initial idea of a very conservative and nationalistic company.

My posts are not a "both sides", it is a "accidental win"

Nintendo's history has nothing to do with what may or may not be the underlying thought processes behind their current creations, by which I mean their creators are not beholden to that. The historical precedent of the Zelda series was to never have extensive voice acting which they deliberately broke this year. Similarly, offensive stereotypes in the past do not prevent characters whose demographics overlap with those stereotypes from being made more respectfully in the present. Seriously, the black Inklings are the same quirky transforming kids as the white Inklings, just with darker skin, which makes the comparison to joke characters like Birdo and Poison all the more baffling. Let's not forget Pokemon Sun and Moon's trainer creator. Do you think the put the option in there thinking the kids were actually ganguro or mammies or something? What in the world could their underlying thought process be with both examples considering how benign they are? How are the Inklings (and by extension S/M's trainer models) accidents????

 

[King Gilga]

Have you seen the news? You have brown skin, you're a thug. So you're black.

What news is this? If anything I'm a terrorist now because of my skin.

But either way I'm not anymore black than I am white.

 

[Mega]

I can't respect it because you literally came in with "I don't think they're black, I think they're brown. I don't feel comfortable with black people assuming they're black because I have feelings too, and I don't identify with black. So don't condescend me and my emotions."

Literally conjuring up an argument out of absolutely nothing. No one had a problem with someone calling them brown, we had a problem with people saying they're not black because arbitrary bullshit. Even had a few Hispanic posters excited too, but we didn't say, "Fuck YOU. They're black like US!"

So spare me with your weak ass argument that you're now back pedaling on.

If you came in with, "Oh this is dope. Now people like me can identify with the Inklings." people wouldn't be ragging on you.

I've also been in this topic since jump, already had my bout with racists and ignorance. So your redundant posts are quite the joke.

Lol.

You're projecting a lot and have a huge chip on your shoulder. I'm not the person you're trying to make me out to be. I don't care if you mistook me for whatever the hell the above is... I've made it abundantly clear as a PoC myself that I want the Inklings as general PoC (black, brown, etc) that any non-white kid can look up to. I said that in a post hours ago before this recent back and forth in the past hour too.

Now tell me again how I'm a racist with an agenda. Real quality conversation we're having here.

 

[Kebiinu]

What news is this? If anything I'm a terrorist now because of my skin.

But either way I'm not anymore black than I am white.

Lmfao.

You're projecting a lot and have a huge chip on your shoulder. I'm not the person you're trying to make me out to be. I don't care if you mistook me for whatever the hell the above is... I've made it abundantly clear as a PoC myself that I want the Inklings as general PoC (black, brown, etc) that any non-white kid can look up to. I said that in a post hours ago before this recent back and forth in the past hour too.

Now tell me again how I'm a racist with an agenda. Real quality conversation we're having here.

Where did I call you a racist? Lol. I read your previous posts already, and you just went from "They're not black." to "They're black/brown." which is why I'm not taking you seriously. Your initial argument was pointless when you could have just seen the bigger picture like everyone here.

Saying "They're not black." does absolutely nothing in the grand scheme.

 

[Platy]

How are the Inklings (and by extension S/M's trainer models) accidents????

So your argument is that they are more like Region Free ?
Nintendo just sucked for a long time but finally caught with the times ?

I can accept that...

 

[Nepenthe]

So your argument is that they are more like Region Free ?
Nintendo just sucked for a long time but finally caught with the times ?

I can accept that...

My argument is that I seriously don't know why you'd look at the darker Inklings as evidence of ignorance or even racism on Nintendo's part just because Nintendo has made previous black characters out to be stereotypes, and not because of anything inherent to the Inklings themselves other than their skin color. =/

 

[PixelatedBookake]

I wanna know from the "They aren't black" people in this thread, what would they have to do for you to see them as black? I have no idea how to see that side of the argument. Like, how do they prove they are black Inklings???

 

[Izuna]

What news is this? If anything I'm a terrorist now because of my skin.

But either way I'm not anymore black than I am white.

I think us brown people should stop fighting and respect we have our own nuances.

However, I'm not going to apologise and neither should you. I hope this discussion at the very least helped educate some people on why shit isn't simple.

That inkling is black tho

I wanna know from the "They aren't black" people in this thread, what would they have to do for you to see them as black? I have no idea how to see that side of the argument. Like, how do they prove they are black Inklings???

They'll never answer this. I've tried. And I'm giving up.

 

[Platy]

My argument is that I seriously don't know why you'd look at the darker Inklings as evidence of ignorance or even racism on Nintendo's part just because Nintendo has made previous black characters out to be stereotypes, and not because of anything inherent to the Inklings themselves other than their skin color. =/

It is not stereotypes. It is stereotypes + character creations that includes dark skin but not any other features associate with non japanese people + that tanning animal crossing fiasco

It is like ... when a dog bite your hand and you are always kinda afraid it will bite again, you know ?

 

[Nepenthe]

I wanna know from the "They aren't black" people in this thread, what would they have to do for you to see them as black? I have no idea how to see that side of the argument. Like, how do they prove they are black Inklings???

Wear gold chains and afros, and walk around like Team Skull rejects.

That's how you people look and act in real life, right?

It is not stereotypes. It is stereotypes + character creations that includes dark skin but not any other features associate with non japanese people + that tanning animal crossing fiasco

It is like ... when a dog bite your hand and you are always kinda afraid it will bite again, you know ?

If a dog bites my hand, I don't look at the next dog and think "Yep, he's gonna bite," especially if the damn dog wants to play with me.

 

[Alienfan]

I wanna know from the "They aren't black" people in this thread, what would they have to do for you to see them as black? I have no idea how to see that side of the argument. Like, how do they prove they are black Inklings???

The way I see it is you could interpret them as black, and you could also interpret them as brown or any non-white ethnicity you may be. Saying "they're black" is just as correct as saying "they're Samoan". It's a win win regardless, because many different people of colour will feel represented, even if they don't identify as black themselves

 

[Mega]

Where did I call you a racist? Lol. I read your previous posts already, and you just went from "They're not black." to "They're black/brown." which is why I'm not taking you seriously. Your initial argument was pointless when you could have just seen the bigger picture like everyone here.

Saying "They're not black." does absolutely nothing in the grand scheme.

From earlier today:

From my perspective the OP's original phrasing is a little restrictive, because I see the Inkling kids as universally brown... it's more inclusive to kids and players around the world. I could see a kid whose Latino Caribbean, West Indian (also Caribbean), South East Asian or Pacific Islander, etc, as excited to play as a dark complected Inkling as much as an African American person.

I never came out and said "lol they're not black." Give it a fucking rest. I've reiterated a hundred ways they're brown including black and everything in between depending on an individual POC's perspective.

Unbelievable.

 

[Nepenthe]

The way I see it is you could interpret them as black, and you could also interpret them as brown or any non-white ethnicity you may be. Saying "they're black" is just as correct as saying "they're Samoan". It's a win win regardless, because many different people of colour will feel represented

Saying they can act as a stand-in for many darker-skinned ethnicities is not the same as denying that they could possibly be a certain darker-skinned ethnicity. There are people saying the dark Inklings CANNOT be considered black, even by black gamers. The poster wants to know what the characters need to do to pass this unwritten test.

 

[Mega]

The way I see it is you could interpret them as black, and you could also interpret them as brown or any non-white ethnicity you may be. Saying "they're black" is just as correct as saying "they're Samoan". It's a win win regardless, because many different people of colour will feel represented, even if they don't identify as black themselves

Yes, precisely.

 

[Enzom21]

Not sure what would be worse in this instance tbh

They are both problematic but one is clearly worse.

I wanna know from the "They aren't black" people in this thread, what would they have to do for you to see them as black? I have no idea how to see that side of the argument. Like, how do they prove they are black Inklings???

The Spoony Hou and King Gilga have been asked this question and they conveniently ignored it. Not brave enough to express their true feelings... although, The Spoony Hou did drop that "race wars" nonsense on us.

 

[Breads]

We at the hispanic delegation have used our first draft pick on these Inklings.

 

[ryechu]

Nintendo isn't as stupid or clueless as some of your guys are making them out to be. They are not trying to represent tanning culture or ganguro, regardless of how committed you get to your faux expertise about japanese culture and societal views; those bits of knowledge are blinding you.

 

[Enzom21]

That's a great tan.

 

[PixelatedBookake]

How do we know they're descended from Africa tho?

Spoiler

/s

 

[Kebiinu]

I never came out and said "lol they're not black." Give it a fucking rest. I've reiterated a hundred ways they're brown including black and everything in between depending on an individual POC's perspective.

Unbelievable.

"Because I see the Inkling kids as universally brown... it's more inclusive to kids and players around the world."

Is my problem with your intial post. We've had countless posters in this topic calling them "ambiguously brown" or "tan" to combat people calling them black.

There was nothing restrictive on OPs original post either.

But sure, homeboy.

 

[Izuna]

Look at how tanned that Japanese kid is

He must sunbathe like every day

 

[The Artisan]

I think us brown people should stop fighting and respect we have our own nuances.

However, I'm not going to apologise and neither should you. I hope this discussion at the very least helped educate some people on why shit isn't simple.

That inkling is black tho



They'll never answer this. I've tried. And I'm giving up.

what's there to apologize about?

i'm a little in the zone and this thread is 17 pages in, I feel like I may not like what's in these convos

 

[Dereck]

That's a great tan.

 

[Mega]

"Because I see the Inkling kids as universally brown... it's more inclusive to kids and players around the world."

Is my problem with your intial post. We've had countless posters in this topic calling them "ambiguously brown" or "tan" to combat people calling them black.

There was nothing restrictive on OPs original post either.

But sure, homeboy.

But, that's not me. I see them as black as much as other brown ethnic groups. The white-person-with-tan thing is indeed bullshit. I was against that shit with Lee and Clementine in TWD and in other instances where people pull that crap to be dismissive.

There are two groups here: ones who genuinely see Inklings as widely representative PoC for many minoroties, and others who are using the "lol they're not black" argument to take something away from you as a black person. You're erroneously combining the two into the same malicious group.