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Red Bull CEO outlines pro-Trump, anti-refugee beliefs in interview

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BeeDog

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English translation where I got the quotes from: https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=38818

Original article: http://www.kleinezeitung.at/steierm...eschitz-im-Interview_Red-BullChef-rechnet-mit

A choice quote:

Red Bull CEO Dietrich Mateschitz has given a rare interview to the Austrian newspaper Kleine Zeitung, announcing his plans to found a new conservative media outlet.

In the interview, the 72-year-old billionaire harshly criticized both Germany and Austria's policies on refugees. "None of the people shouting 'refugees welcome' or 'we can do it' were preparing their own guest rooms or tents in their gardens to accommodate half a dozen migrants," he said. Mateschitz then condemned political correctness in the media, voiced his support for Donald Trump and announced plans for a news outlet called Näher an die Wahrheit (Closer To The Truth). He criticized a high-profile Belgian official for implying that "countries with homogeneous cultures should vanish from the face of the earth."

EDIT: Added one text interpretation from a GAFer:

Nowhere in the original article does he "voice his support" for Trump. What he does say is that he doesn't think he's "as much of an idiot" as he is portrayed as. The interviewer then proceeds to ask if Trump is a positive change to the administration and Mateschitz openly ponders the question, but says the initial hysteria about Trump's election was a bit much. He says that the bad thing about democracy is, is that the majority is not always right, the good thing is that it's very easy to course correct a "wrong" election. But they should at least give Trump some time.

Then the interviewer asks him, on what points would you follow Trump? To which Mateschitz answers that he doubts Trump ever realistically thought he could build a wall on the Mexican border, but that some things are unjust criticism just because it's coming from Trump. As an example he cites improving relations with Russia, because it makes no economical sense to boycott Russia and ruin that country, especially since Russia is a part of Europe and important to them. He says that the "political correct" (later further defined as the "intellectual elite") will say Russia is a "State of evil bad guys, and we are the good ones and everyone who says otherwise lies." He states this is terrible for the freedom of speech, because these people only value this when the opinion stated is their own. Mateschitz says that he doesn't need people like that, telling him who his enemies are for him.

The interviewer tells him he is one the elite, is he not? To which he defines himself as Humanist, Kosmopolitan, Pacifist and Individualist. He says he hates people who want a Opinion-based Dictatorship (as explained above), which he says immediately gives judgements from others. In the US you're a Communist, in Europe you are a "conspiracy theorist" or "Right wing populist".

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Interview is a lot longer, but my main take-away is that he's an old man with convictions. I might not share them, but I certainly won't judge him for having them. We're adults, we're entitled to a different on opinions on matters.

My main take-away from the article certainly isn't that he supports Trump though. That's a misrepresentation in the English article.

Disappointing, to say the least.

Give me wings if old.
 
No red bull for me anymore (I'm not kidding).

Especially the 'conservative media outlet' talk is infuriating. As if we need another one of those Rupert Murdoch assholes spreading misinformation and influencing elections.
 
Awwwww man that sucks. I was always rooting for Red Bull for sponsoring the smallest, most niche sports events and all that.
But noooope, that's no good!
 
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fuck you dude.


Especially funding that media outlet.


Awwwww man that sucks. I was always rooting for Red Bull for sponsoring the smallest, most niche sports events and all that.
But noooope, that's no good!
Same here.
 
"None of the people shouting 'refugees welcome' or 'we can do it' were preparing their own guest rooms or tents in their gardens to accommodate half a dozen migrants," he said.

Why do people on the right always:
a) expect this.
b) spread this bullshit when;
The Germans Welcoming Refugees Into Their Homes - UNHCR 2015
As Shelters Fill Up, Germans Welcome Refugees Into Their Homes - HuffPost 2016
Meet the German Families That Opened Their Homes to Refugees - Time 2015
A look at a German family hosting Syrian refugees - France 24 2015
 

Rahvar

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Awwwww man that sucks. I was always rooting for Red Bull for sponsoring the smallest, most niche sports events and all that.
But noooope, that's no good!

To be fair. It's more that they sponsor every sport. They own two major football clubs and a Formula 1 team, the budget for those must be in the billions per year.
 
Disgusting. Unfortunately, right wing views are very popular in Austria right now. During the election for Federal President the candidate of the extreme right gathered almost 50% of the votes. It's sad what has become of this country, I lived there for a few years in the past, and still have many friends there, who are also disturbed by the current political situation. One would think that being the land of birth of Hitler, there would be greater sensibilities about stuff like this. Oh well.

I always wondered why a guy like Felix Baumgartner (also Austrian, Trump supporter and sponsored by Red Bull) can spout similar disgusting nonsense about refugees and about wanting a dictatorship, without any repercussions:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/lostinshowbiz/2012/nov/01/space-jumper-felix-baumgartner-politics

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/turns-out-base-jumper

Seems like I have my answer now.
 

KaoteK

Member
This arsehole didn't even "invent" red bull, he just bought the international rights from the Thai company that produced it
 

MarveI

Member
What's up with these old guys ?

Red Bull sponsors a lot of great stuff for youngsters like sports and dance (and most of those youngsters ae from all over the world) so this is pretty disappointing to hear. I'm not even mad just completely baffled.
 
Why do all these billionaires think they need their own media outlet to influence everyone? Go buy a fucking island and live there without worries. Imagine being 72, having all the money and freedom in the world, and complain about this stuff.
 

Gandie

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Put it on the fuck ref bull pile!


Gemüsepizza;234649813 said:
Disgusting. Unfortunately, right wing views are very popular in Austria right now. During the election for Federal President the candidate of the extreme right gathered almost 50% of the votes. It's sad what has become of this country, I lived there for a few years in the past, and still have many friends there, who are also disturbed by the current political situation. One would think that being the land of birth of Hitler, there would be greater sensibilities about stuff like this. Oh well.

I always wondered why a guy like Felix Baumgartner (also Austrian, Trump supporter and sponsored by Red Bull) can spout similar disgusting nonsense about refugees and about wanting a dictatorship, without any repercussions:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/lostinshowbiz/2012/nov/01/space-jumper-felix-baumgartner-politics

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/turns-out-base-jumper

Seems like I have my answer now.

Baumgartner is an absolute shithead. Greatest achievement in life: falling. Lives (and pays his taxes) in Florida too, but keeps commenting on European politics via Facebook.
 

Nabbis

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I really don't like how anti-immigration or refugee critique is being spearheaded by right-wing crazies. Though im not sure if the public generally does have overlap with those beliefs or they are being steered that way.
 

Tk0n

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English translation where I got the quotes from: https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=38818

Original article: http://www.kleinezeitung.at/steierm...eschitz-im-Interview_Red-BullChef-rechnet-mit

A choice quote:



Disappointing, to say the least.

Give me wings if old.

The complete interview is not at all sounding as harsh as the "english translation."
There is no talk about this media outlet in the original interview.

His "support" for Trump in the interview is "i think he is not as dump as people believe".

The "translation" is quite sensational and lurid to condences his interview in a way that makes it sound much worse than it is.
 
Hopefully another CEO will be in place soon. I don't drink Red Bull but I enjoy the brand when it sponsor sport events. I'm waiting to see if Red Bull sponsored individuals will call this out.
 
I really don't like how anti-immigration or refugee critique is being spearheaded by right-wing crazies. Though im not sure if the public generally does have overlap with those beliefs or they are being steered that way.
Combination of both. And it's stopping any normal discussion this way because the debate only has extremes now.
 
Pfft I'm happy I figured out the code for the destiny red bull quest without buying red bull.

Seriously fuck anyone with these beliefs.
 

Gandie

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Hopefully another CEO will be in place soon. I don't drink Red Bull but I enjoy the brand when it sponsor sport events. I'm waiting to see if Red Bull sponsored individuals will call this out.

He owns 49% of the company. He isn't going anywhere.
 
Gemüsepizza;234649813 said:
Disgusting. Unfortunately, right wing views are very popular in Austria right now. During the election for Federal President the candidate of the extreme right gathered almost 50% of the votes. It's sad what has become of this country, I lived there for a few years in the past, and still have many friends there, who are also disturbed by the current political situation. One would think that being the land of birth of Hitler, there would be greater sensibilities about stuff like this. Oh well.

I always wondered why a guy like Felix Baumgartner (also Austrian, Trump supporter and sponsored by Red Bull) can spout similar disgusting nonsense about refugees and about wanting a dictatorship, without any repercussions:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/lostinshowbiz/2012/nov/01/space-jumper-felix-baumgartner-politics

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/turns-out-base-jumper

Seems like I have my answer now.

It's not new, though. We had a ÖVP/FPÖ (later BZÖ) government from 2000-2008. The FPÖ faded into obscurity for a couple of years after that, but we've had this sort of thing before.

On topic, this is disappointing. I guess it's easy to avoid their products, which I'm gonna do from now on.
 

Afrikan

Member
What's up with these old guys ?

Red Bull sponsors a lot of great stuff for youngsters like sports and dance (and most of those youngsters ae from all over the world) so this is pretty disappointing to hear. I'm not even mad just completely baffled.

Time for Monster to seize the moment and go all in.
 

illamap

Member
On Trump:
"I do not think he's such an idiot as he is. When talking to Americans, it is often heard that they are always glad that there is a new administration. The former one has more than questioned in many respects. And "different" it is now undoubtedly. But above all, I consider the current hysteria to be ridiculous. Just because something is outside your own ideology?"

This apparently qualifies as pro-trump these days...
 

Aiii

So not worth it
English translation where I got the quotes from: https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=38818

Original article: http://www.kleinezeitung.at/steierm...eschitz-im-Interview_Red-BullChef-rechnet-mit

A choice quote:



Disappointing, to say the least.

Give me wings if old.

Nowhere in the original article does he "voice his support" for Trump. What he does say is that he doesn't think he's "as much of an idiot" as he is portrayed as. The interviewer then proceeds to ask if Trump is a positive change to the administration and Mateschitz openly ponders the question, but says the initial hysteria about Trump's election was a bit much. He says that the bad thing about democracy is, is that the majority is not always right, the good thing is that it's very easy to course correct a "wrong" election. But they should at least give Trump some time.

Then the interviewer asks him, on what points would you follow Trump? To which Mateschitz answers that he doubts Trump ever realistically thought he could build a wall on the Mexican border, but that some things are unjust criticism just because it's coming from Trump. As an example he cites improving relations with Russia, because it makes no economical sense to boycott Russia and ruin that country, especially since Russia is a part of Europe and important to them. He says that the "political correct" (later further defined as the "intellectual elite") will say Russia is a "State of evil bad guys, and we are the good ones and everyone who says otherwise lies." He states this is terrible for the freedom of speech, because these people only value this when the opinion stated is their own. Mateschitz says that he doesn't need people like that, telling him who his enemies are for him.

The interviewer tells him he is one the elite, is he not? To which he defines himself as Humanist, Kosmopolitan, Pacifist and Individualist. He says he hates people who want a Opinion-based Dictatorship (as explained above), which he says immediately gives judgements from others. In the US you're a Communist, in Europe you are a "conspiracy theorist" or "Right wing populist".

---

Interview is a lot longer, but my main take-away is that he's an old man with convictions. I might not share them, but I certainly won't judge him for having them. We're adults, we're entitled to a different on opinions on matters.

My main take-away from the article certainly isn't that he supports Trump though. That's a misrepresentation in the English article.
 

Nabbis

Member
On Trump:
"I do not think he's such an idiot as he is. When talking to Americans, it is often heard that they are always glad that there is a new administration. The former one has more than questioned in many respects. And "different" it is now undoubtedly. But above all, I consider the current hysteria to be ridiculous. Just because something is outside your own ideology?"

This apparently qualifies as pro-trump these days...

I can't speak German but going by those quotes in the comment section his views are not really all that unreasonable overall, that said i don't think a rich old dude talking about these things is coming from a genuine place.
 
Resident Advisor do news? Weird one. Like FACT Magazine posting political articles now. The translation is also a bit off and makes him sound way worse, although he's still said some dodgy shit.

This growth in right-wing anti-immigrant sentiment is gonna get a lot worse before it gets better, unfortunately.
 
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