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Nintendo confirms no live E3 presentation this year

Good. Everyone else should do the same tbh. That format should take over entirely.

The content matters more than your hype and feeling that these companies are facing off. Just raw info and footage from every developer would be best.
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
I don't like Directs, so while this was expected, it's still extremely disappointing.
 

messiaen

Member
Very, very disappointing. I'm sorry but this is going 3 steps back to the Wii U era and this is not the signal they should send after the horrible Wii U. It looks they don't have enough confidence in their products and my hype for E3 is going down to zero.

After the Switch Event I was certain they would go back to live conferences, alone the intro with laser lights and the DJ destroys every direct (except 2014) There were minor mistakes like a bad translator and no audience clapping but aside from that it was perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.

The directs are boring and the content is not enough. 2013 January was okay, 2014 mediocre (robot chicken was awesome though) and 2015 and 2016 were downright bad. Even when there is not enough content, atleast we got something to laugh from the bad press conferences.

And to tell the truth, 2014 wasn't as good as everyone says. Games wise, I just remember Splatoon and Zelda being announced. Was there anything else? The funny presentation just hides the fact that there were a lackluster amount of games announcements.

Press conferences are dead and I'm crying right now. Nintendo is destroying christmas for us Nintendo fans. I can't believe people actually defend this!
How are they destroying Christmas? I don't know how your Christmas works, but generally I thought it's the day you wake up and get presents, not the day you wake up and are told what presents you'll get six to 12 months down the line?

Point is, that the games will be the same no matter what format they're announced in, live press event or not; it doesn't matter.
 

Alrus

Member
Did Destructoid edit their article? Because it's not saying Nintendo isn't attending at all...

This.

Doing a live show would have been exciting, though I see why they don't.

Because it's more expensive, less controlled and isn't that much of an advantage in terms of visibility?
 
Remember when Nintendo screwed up because they didn't reveal the NX at E3 last year? Yeah good times 😂

Might want to hold off on the fake news. Their article does not say that.

I just looked it up. They said Nintendo isn't having a conference this year. They didn't say Nintendo isn't going to be at E3.
 
The Switch presentation wasn't that bad. It was the 2nd half that went bad were pacing was off and that terrible translator who had trouble with Splatoon and Suda 51.

Although the parts that were good were the parts where they used direct style videos.

So yeah, give me a well pace Direct over a awkward presentation any day.
 
R

Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
What kind of gimmick, if any, do you think they will use this year for the Digital Event?

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The announcement video introduced Reggie Fils-A-Mech.

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There was also that video where Bill got fired and Reggie trained for the Nintendo World Championships

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Nothing special here really, nothing gimmicky. Reggie presented The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

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E3 2017, Nintendo Switch's first E3. I wonder if we could see Mr. Kimishima in a video, it'd be nice.
 

koss424

Member
Last year really was a failure, they announced games in press releases while the show was on and never showed them in the direct, they teased off more annoucements while treehouse was on.

Really half assed with planning

You mean 2016 E3? The year Nintendo destroyed everyone else at E3?
 
Yeah. 3/4 of their digital events have been awful. With the other being OK because they unveiled shit that didn't release for years. Expectations remain at zero.
You mean 2016 E3? The year Nintendo destroyed everyone else at E3?
I don't see how anyone could make this claim. At all.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yeah. 3/4 of their digital events have been awful. With the other being OK because they unveiled shit that didn't release for years. Expectations remain at zero.

I don't see how anyone could make this claim. At all.

His opinion is obviously subjective, but I do recall some media outlets declaring Nintendo "winners" (whatever that means) of E3.
 
Yeah. 3/4 of their digital events have been awful. With the other being OK because they unveiled shit that didn't release for years. Expectations remain at zero.

I don't see how anyone could make this claim. At all.

I guess all of Sonys E3's have been ok since they show games that don't release for another 3-4 years.
 

Hilarion

Member
Kirishima would make an excellent straight man for a video. Just have him walk in mid-skit, look at Reggie, Koizumi, and Miyamoto doing zany BS, and deadpan "You're all fired" in his best Japanese Businessman voice.
 

Drackhorn

Member
Good. Everyone else should do the same tbh. That format should take over entirely.

The content matters more than your hype and feeling that these companies are facing off. Just raw info and footage from every developer would be best.

God no, how sterile Sony's 2015 grand show would have been without an audience. I hope they never ever will.
 

Hilarion

Member
I guess all of Sonys E3's have been ok since they show games that don't release for another 3-4 years.

This year we will welcome FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 back for their third E3. Remake will certainly and Shenmue will likely be back for a fourth one next year.

2015, Year of Dreams Deferred.
 

Arynio

Member
Very, very disappointing. I'm sorry but this is going 3 steps back to the Wii U era and this is not the signal they should send after the horrible Wii U. It looks they don't have enough confidence in their products and my hype for E3 is going down to zero.

After the Switch Event I was certain they would go back to live conferences, alone the intro with laser lights and the DJ destroys every direct (except 2014) There were minor mistakes like a bad translator and no audience clapping but aside from that it was perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.

The directs are boring and the content is not enough. 2013 January was okay, 2014 mediocre (robot chicken was awesome though) and 2015 and 2016 were downright bad. Even when there is not enough content, atleast we got something to laugh from the bad press conferences.

And to tell the truth, 2014 wasn't as good as everyone says. Games wise, I just remember Splatoon and Zelda being announced. Was there anything else? The funny presentation just hides the fact that there were a lackluster amount of games announcements.

Press conferences are dead and I'm crying right now. Nintendo is destroying christmas for us Nintendo fans. I can't believe people actually defend this!

Joke post or the latest Neogaf classic? I can't tell. Nor breath.
 

Drackhorn

Member
What does an audience add? Applause and cheering are irrelevant to the show's focus: revealing upcoming hardware and software.

Not really, I love to hear the response of the audience. Kojima coming down the stairs to a lot of cheering was also a great event. I wouldn't want to swap those moments for very clinical Directs.
 

Hindl

Member
Great the directs have been awesome. I don't give a shit about the crowd or the pomp, just give me the game announcements

Very, very disappointing. I'm sorry but this is going 3 steps back to the Wii U era and this is not the signal they should send after the horrible Wii U. It looks they don't have enough confidence in their products and my hype for E3 is going down to zero.

After the Switch Event I was certain they would go back to live conferences, alone the intro with laser lights and the DJ destroys every direct (except 2014) There were minor mistakes like a bad translator and no audience clapping but aside from that it was perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.

The directs are boring and the content is not enough. 2013 January was okay, 2014 mediocre (robot chicken was awesome though) and 2015 and 2016 were downright bad. Even when there is not enough content, atleast we got something to laugh from the bad press conferences.

And to tell the truth, 2014 wasn't as good as everyone says. Games wise, I just remember Splatoon and Zelda being announced. Was there anything else? The funny presentation just hides the fact that there were a lackluster amount of games announcements.

Press conferences are dead and I'm crying right now. Nintendo is destroying christmas for us Nintendo fans. I can't believe people actually defend this!

Lmao buddy you need to take a step back if this shit is making you cry
 

Nairume

Banned
Honestly, remember back at Nintendo's live shows in the past and looking at how Microsoft and Sony's live shows are now, I still don't miss them.

I don't see how anyone could make this claim. At all.
Dedicating almost the entirety of their E3 presence to BotW caused them to dominate a huge share of the E3 news cycle.

Given how much of a success BotW has been, it's also pretty obvious that it certainly worked for them.
 

I Wanna Be The Guy

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Very, very disappointing. I'm sorry but this is going 3 steps back to the Wii U era and this is not the signal they should send after the horrible Wii U. It looks they don't have enough confidence in their products and my hype for E3 is going down to zero.

After the Switch Event I was certain they would go back to live conferences, alone the intro with laser lights and the DJ destroys every direct (except 2014) There were minor mistakes like a bad translator and no audience clapping but aside from that it was perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.

The directs are boring and the content is not enough. 2013 January was okay, 2014 mediocre (robot chicken was awesome though) and 2015 and 2016 were downright bad. Even when there is not enough content, atleast we got something to laugh from the bad press conferences.

And to tell the truth, 2014 wasn't as good as everyone says. Games wise, I just remember Splatoon and Zelda being announced. Was there anything else? The funny presentation just hides the fact that there were a lackluster amount of games announcements.

Press conferences are dead and I'm crying right now. Nintendo is destroying christmas for us Nintendo fans. I can't believe people actually defend this!
Nintendo are destroying christmas guys. HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THIS?!?!
 
Very, very disappointing. I'm sorry but this is going 3 steps back to the Wii U era and this is not the signal they should send after the horrible Wii U. It looks they don't have enough confidence in their products and my hype for E3 is going down to zero.

After the Switch Event I was certain they would go back to live conferences, alone the intro with laser lights and the DJ destroys every direct (except 2014) There were minor mistakes like a bad translator and no audience clapping but aside from that it was perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.

The directs are boring and the content is not enough. 2013 January was okay, 2014 mediocre (robot chicken was awesome though) and 2015 and 2016 were downright bad. Even when there is not enough content, atleast we got something to laugh from the bad press conferences.

And to tell the truth, 2014 wasn't as good as everyone says. Games wise, I just remember Splatoon and Zelda being announced. Was there anything else? The funny presentation just hides the fact that there were a lackluster amount of games announcements.

Press conferences are dead and I'm crying right now. Nintendo is destroying christmas for us Nintendo fans. I can't believe people actually defend this!

And? Look, as a huge Nintendo fan I'd love them to go back to the press events as some of Nintendo's famous moments come from them (speaking as someone who was inside Nintendo's infamous E3 2004 event), but that's not what they want to do right now. Let's just look at the facts:

Pro-Direct:

Much shorter than a press conference
Much, MUCH cheaper than holding a press conference
As most of Nintendo's devs are Japanese and speak little to no English, there's instant translation in a pre-taped event.
Nintendo is speaking to everyone, not just the people in attendance.

Anti-Direct

No crowd interaction (cheering)
More difficult to cover than a press event due to the quicker pace
No free swag for attendees.

Yeah, I'd say the positives outweigh the negatives.
 
And? Look, as a huge Nintendo fan I'd love them to go back to the press events as some of Nintendo's famous moments come from them (speaking as someone who was inside Nintendo's infamous E3 2004 event), but that's not what they want to do right now. Let's just look at the facts:

Pro-Direct:

Much shorter than a press conference
Much, MUCH cheaper than holding a press conference
As most of Nintendo's devs are Japanese and speak little to no English, there's instant translation in a pre-taped event.
Nintendo is speaking to everyone, not just the people in attendance.

Anti-Direct

No crowd interaction (cheering)
More difficult to cover than a press event due to the quicker pace
No free swag for attendees.

Yeah, I'd say the positives outweigh the negatives.

And your antis, other than free swag I suppose, sound like positives to me.
 

Hilarion

Member
I mean, every year we have:

Boring and tedious EA Day 0 conference featuring the NEW and EXCITING changes to FIFA, Madden, and NHL.
Technically competent Microsoft conference featuring a bunch of soon-to-be-cancelled games and some legitimately cool moves like BC and PC Crossplay, but also featuring lengthy trailers of admittedly pretty landscapes in Forza that have nothing going on.
Ubisoft circus featuring people who still think it's cool to say fuck on camera.
Sony tour de force, totally on note, featuring tons of great content for five years from now.

And recently:
Square Enix borefest with occasional interesting trailers separated by long periods of random people talking and Yoko Taro appearing in bizarre costumes.
Endless unwatchable PC Gaming show.

Why should Nintendo ape them rather than doing its own thing?
 

mortal

Gold Member
Direct + Treehouse gameplay is my preferred style of E3 presentation. Kinda wish other companies would follow suit.

The whole entire point of the E3 experience is being there in person. It's primarily an electronics expo, not solely a game announcement and trailer showcase.
 
I mean, every year we have:

Boring and tedious EA Day 0 conference featuring the NEW and EXCITING changes to FIFA, Madden, and NHL.
Technically competent Microsoft conference featuring a bunch of soon-to-be-cancelled games and some legitimately cool moves like BC and PC Crossplay, but also featuring lengthy trailers of admittedly pretty landscapes in Forza that have nothing going on.
Ubisoft circus featuring people who still think it's cool to say fuck on camera.
Sony tour de force, totally on note, featuring tons of great content for five years from now.

And recently:
Square Enix borefest with occasional interesting trailers separated by long periods of random people talking and Yoko Taro appearing in bizarre costumes.
Endless unwatchable PC Gaming show.

Why should Nintendo ape them rather than doing its own thing?

EA's conference has been super boring and disappointing for years now. Like you said, it's endless sports games, followed up with a big showcase of the latest Battlefield or Titanfall, which this year will likely be Battlefront 2.

MS should get a big pop for Scorpio and the Halo 6 announcement

Ubisoft......uh............................South Park?

Sony...yeah they're going to win again.
 

Nairume

Banned
And your antis, other than free swag I suppose, sound like positives to me.
I'm split on the audience thing.

Moments like the reaction to the Twilight Princess reveal are genuinely great when they happen, but it feels like we have far far more moments like where bits thrown in to elicit an audience reaction leads to awkward silence (we still love you Tak Fujii <3) or when the audience is overly enthusiastic about either bland shit or shit that doesn't really warrant the level of applause intended for an american meal.
 

Jubenhimer

Member
Meh, I don't really have a preference either way. Both formats have their pros and cons. That January presentation was really more of a special occasion than anything. If Nintendo wants to do a pre-recorded presentation let them, no sense trying make them conform to everything.
 
Nintendo should just have a separate stream where they broadcast the same presentation, but with a live crowd cheering over every announcement. Maybe that'd save E3 for some of their critics.
 

Platy

Member
Not really, I love to hear the response of the audience. Kojima coming down the stairs to a lot of cheering was also a great event. I wouldn't want to swap those moments for very clinical Directs.

3 minutes of people sucking kojima's balls is EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes me want that everyone did Directs.

They are not cheering for any game, they are just happy that a celebrity is in the same room as them. A celebrity that is famous because people think BIG COMPANY games are actually small paintings made by just one guy

Give me 3 minutes of random indies that are coming instead please, beacause THOSE are actualy made by just one guy =P
 

Platy

Member
Pro-Direct:

Much shorter than a press conference
Much, MUCH cheaper than holding a press conference
As most of Nintendo's devs are Japanese and speak little to no English, there's instant translation in a pre-taped event.
Nintendo is speaking to everyone, not just the people in attendance.

Anti-Direct

No crowd interaction (cheering)
More difficult to cover than a press event due to the quicker pace
No free swag for attendees.

Yeah, I'd say the positives outweigh the negatives.

More than one journalist that I know (including the gameXplain guys) loved the headlines from the last direct since you could say to your buddy "start writing about X because this is what comes next"
 

Calm Mind

Member
LOL @ these responses.

This is like the equivalent of saying "well, I didn't want to go out with that hot girl anyway!".

Nintendo giving up on being a major player in the industry isn't something people should be excited about.

edit: aaaaaand last post on the page GODDAMN IT

Pfft. Hot girl? E3 is homely af. She just puts out faster.
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
Yeah. 3/4 of their digital events have been awful. With the other being OK because they unveiled shit that didn't release for years. Expectations remain at zero.

I don't see how anyone could make this claim. At all.

The second part of this post reads like a reply to the first couple sentences of this post.
 
I guess everyone loves EAs conferences and Ubisoft. Especially EA you can feel the connection to the boringness of sports sports sports.
 
Yeah. 3/4 of their digital events have been awful. With the other being OK because they unveiled shit that didn't release for years. Expectations remain at zero.

I don't see how anyone could make this claim. At all.
Because we have an abundance of empirical data to support it.
 

Ridley327

Member
Nintendo should just have a separate stream where they broadcast the same presentation, but with a live crowd cheering over every announcement. Maybe that'd save E3 for some of their critics.

They actually kinda do that already with their retailer presentation that takes place as the same time as the digital event. Same content, but filled with more slides about how they're planning on supporting those games with marketing strategies and dollars spent.
 
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