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Gran Turismo Sport Beta Thread
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Risk Breaker
Member
Ok and does the system itself work for you? You hav a significantly higher SR than me, does it really help grouping experienced drivers together and have clean racing?
I am D 19 now, got pole in all 3 races yesterday by a margin off 0.5s at least and did not manage to win one of this races due to being pushed/bumped off track, mostly in 1st corner.
sems4arsenal
Member
911 Sound and Visual comparison between GTS and AC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uufrKZDQgFo
GTS could use a more brutal upshift but they sound pretty close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uufrKZDQgFo
GTS could use a more brutal upshift but they sound pretty close.
GTS could use a touch more bass and tone down the tire screech a touch in cockpit. It seems to be a mixing issue. Otherwise they both sounds good.
DHC-Shannow
Member
I'm only really racing on the nurb and I have a SR of 44 - most guys race pretty cleanly but you do often get the GTRs pushing at the start as they set off so much quicker especially compared to the FF cars. You can understand their frustration as it is so tricky to pass cleanly but often you end up pulling away again once past the initial bends.
aspiegamer
Member
I'm going to throw out something pretty random and suggest that people consider participating more in the official beta forums beyond chatting here. On top of bug reports there's also a choice of offering general suggestions. Be sure to search and you can comment on or upvote others.
The portal is ear.playstation.com/gtsport/ though sign in is limited to beta players. PD seems pretty receptive toward player comments and suggestions thus far. If you're opinionated enough to post on GAF I'm pretty sure you'll be fine over there.
The portal is ear.playstation.com/gtsport/ though sign in is limited to beta players. PD seems pretty receptive toward player comments and suggestions thus far. If you're opinionated enough to post on GAF I'm pretty sure you'll be fine over there.
AstroNut325
Member
I prefer the sound of AC due to the extra bass. I'm presuming that's more accurate.
Also, the cars in AC... they look like they're just floating over the road surface!
-hadouken
Member
Are there events available? What's your ping to the server?
PodcastFips
Member
Are you asking if it improves the quality of the races? I say yes, significantly.
With a rating as high as 50 you are not allowed to leave the track once, otherwise it's already impossible to increase the rating for said race. That means most drivers are a lot more careful and only try to overtake when it's possible without kicking other cars off the track. And that means you need to be early in corners and stick to the ideal line as good as possible, which in turn improves lap times a lot.
Gran Turismo Sport Beta vs RaceRoom - BMW M6 GT3 at Nordschleife
Graphics, sound and track comparison
Cockpit cam: 0:05
Bumper cam: 2:32
3rd person cam: 4:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyEywFRAU7w
Graphics, sound and track comparison
Cockpit cam: 0:05
Bumper cam: 2:32
3rd person cam: 4:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyEywFRAU7w
Holy shit at the sound difference, you dun goofed Kaz.
Kaz & PD better step up their game...
BigEmil
Junior Member
In GT7 lol, i don't see GT Sport selling too well I'm not buying it day one either maybe in a sale
AstroNut325
Member
Is it really realistic to expect the absolute best elements from every racing sim in one game?
Edit:
The real car for comparison: https://youtu.be/qcqow_fima8
GTS is really lacking the nuances and the grunt. :/
funkystudent
Member
Is it realistic to expect a game to fix its most glaring issue after a decade of even the developer themselves saying they are working on fixing it?
PodcastFips
Member
Penalties and ghosting really need to be fixed. Look at this mess:
https://youtu.be/rubEA7o86FI
The Genesis does nothing but push me off the track intentionally, and on top of that I receive a 4 second penalty? What the flying f. Just ghost him and make him say bye bye instead please.
Ugh.
https://youtu.be/rubEA7o86FI
The Genesis does nothing but push me off the track intentionally, and on top of that I receive a 4 second penalty? What the flying f. Just ghost him and make him say bye bye instead please.
Ugh.
RaceRoom sound guy applied for the job, Kaz chose T10 guy.
Bad move.
And apart from graphics I'm not sure GT Sport has the best anything in the sim world.
Stillmatic
Member
Doesn't even let me connect.
Tries to connect then a screen pops up saying my PSN id isn't regestered for the beta, so I can't even get to the main menu.
Wondering if they're only allowing you to connect during the allocated times they gave me (3am here...) or it just hasn't rolled out fully for NZ/Aus.
-hadouken
Member
Ta - both Euro and USA betas allow connection to the main hub regardless of events being available. I'd guess they don't have the servers ready, or access will coincide with the next patch.
aspiegamer
Member
I'll try to be a pathetic apologist and explain that sequence and the penalty. Not that I agree with it, but just say what my experience with the system has been. The TLDR is that the penalty is coming from an unsafe reentry to the track. You slash over and nearly take out that GT-R. You clip them, actually, and it messes with their line for the next turn and you see them go wide.
There likely wasn't any ghosting because the difference in speed between you and the 2nd Genesis was relatively small.
All I can try to offer as comfort is that these things happen less and less as you go to higher SR and DR and as the average experience of everyone in the beta goes up. At higher SR, that level of contact and running someone entirely off the track will make it almost impossible for that player to gain a +1 from that race. Anyone remotely interested in their SR is not going to make a move that stupid through there. I'd have probably lifted when I saw the 2nd Genesis turn into me, based on going through that corner before and being swiped at the exact same way. It's not worth the 1 position. That only comes from sheer repetition on that track, though.
I feel like I could write a massive FAQ just on collision and SR for every sector on every track. It's complex and it's sheer repetition to know what you should worry about and where, but there are fundamentals and ways you can best keep your races competitive and clean while still driving aggressively. ...When the NDA is up, of course. I'll just say that beyond situations like this where you were helpless, it feels fair at SR 50+ with the more experienced people.
You might consider posting in the beta forums with that video clip. The staff there do seem to pass this stuff over to the development team, and they quite love feedback/suggestions with media attached. Try not to get discouraged!
PodcastFips
Member
I still don't have access to the EU beta forum even though I'm playing the beta for 2 weeks now. Looks like they are asking for feedback from selected people only
TylerDurden4321
Member
I think, I'm on a different beta forum than you are. Only seen one reply to an open suggestion from a dev/PS-community-staff and that was about the Willow Springs last 2 corner cutting cheat.
endlessflood
Member
That's so painful to watch.
I really like the camera shake in GT though, it feels spot on.
SolidSnakex
Member
GR3 on Dragon Trial is back! This may be the best original track in the series when using that class of car.
Pharaoh 117
Member
It has been over a week since a GR3 at Nordschleife event. Come on PD, I got a bunch of cars I want to test.
Insane Metal
Member
I'm watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX97Qa8nviY and holy shit. It looks absolutely amazing, but the sound suuuuuuuucckkkkkkkkkkksssssssssssssss
WTF is PD doing, man.
WTF is PD doing, man.
What they've always done.
Stillmatic
Member
When the game looks so good, the poor audio really does stick out. Pretty baffling they haven't tried to improved it much overall.
Insane Metal
Member
Omnistalgic
Member
have you participated in the beta? a lot of impressions have said sounds are very much improved. Must be a car-by-car basis thing and camera perspective matters. Very odd thing to say though in light of the impressions, even just a few pages back have sound comments.
Lol umm I've been hooked on racing (F1, Nascar, Rallies, you name it) ever since I was a wee child. I've never seen a car that doesn't have fucked up suspension bounce around like that.
Please furnish me with a gif of a real car bouncing like that on a curb.
Yep, love it too. Not too much to complain on the visuals either besides some aliasing and LOD/shadows pop-in that are understandable on a 60fps gameplay.
Pity about the sound. Somebody mentioned Kaz hired the Turn10 sound guy over the R3E one for the job... come on, what kind of criteria is that?
endlessflood
Member
Every GT game has had fantastic visuals.
On the sound front, it's fallen further and further behind the competition. R3E is top dog on audio, so it's probably unrealistic to think that GTS could go from last place to first place in the audio department in one release... but it's still so bad that I find it ruining the whole experience for me.
The fact that the main R3E audio guy applied for a job at PD - and didn't get it - is just salt in the wound.
That particular footage is so damning on the audio front because it's the car that Kaz actually raced last year, at the track where he raced it. If PD aren't nailing that car, then they're not nailing anything. That the competition is doing the audio on that car better is unforgivable.
It's giving me pause before booting up the beta now. A few times in the past week I've played AC or pCARS instead of GTS because of the insipid audio in GTS, and that's knowing that the beta could be pulled at any time and access is limited. Normally I'd be cramming in as much gameplay as possible under those circumstances.
It makes me wonder how much time I'd give the full game if better-sounding alternatives with similar gameplay are also sitting on my hard drive, and is pushing me towards picking this up at a later date on the cheap rather than a day-one purchase.
It's in beta though. Maybe a whole plethora of awesome sound files will be ready to be unleashed at launch.
endlessflood
Member
I find that hard to believe. Just as I find it hard to believe that pCars 2 will suddenly have amazing controller feel.
I don't want these guys to talk about it, I want them to do it.
-hadouken
Member
Don't agree at all. They're on the right track with car audio for the first time in well over a decade. The sound is currently not on par with some of the other games out there, tho it's a massive improvement over the abysmal audio in GT5/6.
Loving the GR4 Vette around the ring - just the right amount of out of control.
Goldrusher
Member
So uh, does everyone have a GT-R but me?
sems4arsenal
Member
Falling further behind the competition (in the Audio department) isn't true at all. If anything, they've never been closer.
endlessflood
Member
GTS hasn't come out yet. GT6 vs R3E is a bigger gap than I think we've had with any prior GT game.
Unknown?
Member
pCARS has such trash audio though, worse that GTS. You can tell they just beef up bass and add filters over it to give it a beefy sound but it's just so fake. Especially when your car is the sole sound that has any beef to it and drowns out anything else.
That's certainly an interesting opinion.
Patrick S.
Banned
TRASH is a stupid GAF expression I see much too often as of late.
The cars in pCARS sound throaty and powerful, and quite convincing on their own. But directly comparing their sounds with the ones in Asseto Corsa does make it obvious that AC's sounds have much more nuance to them. For example, the Huayra or the P1. There are many more layers to their noise present in AC. Throttle position affects the engine note a lot more, and there are a lot of whines and whooshes and changes of sound depending on engine power load that are simply not there in pCARS. Many of the cars in AC have a very distinctive and unique sound. But I'd bet that, with your eyes closed, you would probably fail to identify many of the cars in pCARS just by their sound, because so many of them sound just about the same.
But anyway, engine sounds in pCARS are still an 8, while in GTS they are a 4, aka. below average.
Who cares if the end result is more convincing? GTS still has a shit load of work to do on the audio front, and pCARS is well ahead, still.
Trash isn't the word I'd use but PCars audio mixing is bad. Engine sounds are way to loud no matter the point of view and drown everything else out. It's at a point I have to drop the audio all the way down at times. GTS sound from videos is a LOT better then what was in GT6 and I would say better then what is in PCars right now. Forza 6 is better as well of course. I'd rather have the sound to low then blaring in my ears.