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Analyst behind predicting ps4 pro and slim says ps4 sucessor is coming 2018
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BigEmil
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If the hardware is very different Sony would have to patch in each title to support the newer hardware and be backwards compatible maybe. Should be easier and quicker than MS doing that with 360 games to Xbox One for example since more same architecture etc
Obliterator
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I'll be announced Q1 2019 for a Holiday 2019 release imo
Sgt. Garlic
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Can't see it. 2019 is my bet.
Sword Of Doom
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PS4 released in 2013. They had a lot of software released that year including TLOU
Anyways, I highly doubt they'll announce a new console less than a year after releasing the pro
Vanillalite
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CPU and RAM aren't stagnant.
The issue is are the next gen leaps able to be small enough to fit on a console sized apu/mobo at an appropriate cost that doesn't over heat or require a gazillion dollar specialized cooling system.
I personally don't see this happening in 2018. Someone more educated on this subject could school me though.
geordiemp
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The usp is if we have i5 / i7 class CPU in a console, we can have
1, 60 FPS games like GTA5 that are now 30. 60 FPS gaming for all genres, not just games that are easier to do at 60. That will move consoles IMO.
2. More enemies and better AI - how many open world games have 3 to 5 spawning enemies.
One of the devs of Andromeda said on reddit they are limited to 8 enemies at a time due to CPU constraints of consoles with their engine.
It really does limit gameplay and whats possible.
Crayon
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I know that seems somewhat intuitive but that's not going to happen.
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Abinash117
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Apparently, Takashi tweeted out that Damian said that the PS5 may come out in the 2nd half of 2018 in September 2016.
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/statu...n-5-to-release-in-2018-claims-analyst-3443416
There's was articles about it during that time, but I don't think any major outlet picked up the story.
http://www.gamezone.com/news/playstation-5-to-release-in-2018-claims-analyst-3443416
Does Damian Thong have any insider information? Some people are saying that he really didn't predict the consoles because the rumors were around before he even said anything.
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/statu...n-5-to-release-in-2018-claims-analyst-3443416
There's was articles about it during that time, but I don't think any major outlet picked up the story.
http://www.gamezone.com/news/playstation-5-to-release-in-2018-claims-analyst-3443416
Does Damian Thong have any insider information? Some people are saying that he really didn't predict the consoles because the rumors were around before he even said anything.
Chittagong
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Come on now. PS3 cycle was 7 years, and PS4 is a much bigger hit. It continues to sell like mad, has tons of big hits in the pipeline, and PS4 Pro is so cutting edge it would be impossible to have a generational leap next year. 2020 earliest.
FinaruDensetsu
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Why? I feel like the ps4 barely had a life.
Sure, but you can't justify a new piece of hardware with "we can now render more enemies at once" to the mainstream audience. 4K, as dumb as that kinda is, is super important for the marketing of those machines. 8K would be the next step but people aren't even upgrading to 4K at this point. It'll be tough to communicate a new gen, for sure.
Boy Wander
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I'd guess 2019. It needs to be a reasonable leap over the Pro and Scorpio at a reasonable price if it's going to sell like PS4.
Which is still like a year and a half longer than ever other PS gen and most other consoles. Expecting gens to be longer than last is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Exactly. When Pro was rumored people on these forums were so eager to give their money to Sony every 2 years for iterative upgrades. I remember reading nonsense like it would be great if Sony was like Apple. Now that there is rumor of a PS5, people are saying it would be a slap in the face to Pro owners. What???? Shouldn't Pro owners be the most excited for a new Sony console next year??
PS3 was in a different time. Besides, there's no cell chip or custom components like that in the PS4. The upgrade path is quite straight forward.
geordiemp
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But ps4 will also still be available, they could just have ps5 for 60 FPS gaming.
Most gamers, if you ask them to choose between 1800c60 and 2160p30, the 60 FPS checker board would win every single time.
Many AAA big budget open world games just scrape 30 FPS at the moment, Pro and Scorpio wont change that they are both too weak.
Holiday 2019, zen console is my prediction. 60 FPS gaming !
Graphics Horse
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Yeah I think so.
Amd will definitely be making 7nm Apus by then, but it might be possible earlier.
Diprosalic
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Yes please. Ps4 getting a bit long in the tooth.
KnightimeX_Legacy
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Didn't sony say it's not going to take another 7 years for ps5 to appear?
Source: http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/29/ps4-will-not-last-10-years-says-sony-4206965/
I say it's very very possible.
Personally I hope we get back to the 5 year cycle.
Later made games are starting to show the struggle of ps4's power.
Pro isn't the answer.
Ps5 with backwards compatibility is!
Source: http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/29/ps4-will-not-last-10-years-says-sony-4206965/
I say it's very very possible.
Personally I hope we get back to the 5 year cycle.
Later made games are starting to show the struggle of ps4's power.
Pro isn't the answer.
Ps5 with backwards compatibility is!
PhilipDoesMatter
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I would buy.
geordiemp
Member
For Japan maybe, hopefully not for UK, I like my 4K tv and IQ to put up with that crap.
Every 2 years? I remember most saying every 3.
Some Pro owners would be excited since some are obviously huge PlayStation fans but I think many others would feel screwed. What was the point in spending $400 if the PS5 (the true successor) was going to be announced not even two years after the Pro released?
Diprosalic
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You wouldn't have to buy it?!
Playstation is the only successful thing Sony has going for it at the moment, so it really makes sense for them to have more frequent hardware releases. I bet most people on this forum complaining about a PS5 in 2018 will be first in line to buy one because of the games it will have.
The Artisan
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how is just a year and a half "far too long" then the usual gen? anyways like i said with the first post, I thought the point of the Ps4 pro was to elongate the gen
baxter2231
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People buy consoles to not have to deal with that bs. Only way they do this is because of what microsoft is up too thus forcing their hand. I hope that does not happen.
Crayon
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If ps5 launched in 2018, you would not be overly pressured to get it. For the first year, almost all games would have a ps4 "version". Or be technically ps4 games with a ps5 patch. Either way, ps4 support would have to stay strong. Ps5 would have to not rock the boat, and mostly just play the same games better.
That could work but I don't see it being necessary when they could wait till the ps4 is slowing down and release ps5 to more demand. But we don't know what they are thinking really and stranger things have happened.
Slimmer PS4 Pro in 2018 would make far more sense than the PS5.
ArkhamFantasy
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The PS4 is projected to sell another 18 million this fiscal year, the next fiscal year its probably going to be projected to sell another 15 million, i dont see the need for a PS5 in 2018, its just going to slow down the PS4 for no reason. Sony will wait until 2019.
He's probably just look at this from a "5 year generational cycle" point of view.
He's probably just look at this from a "5 year generational cycle" point of view.
The Pro I think should realistically be down to like $250 by Holiday 2018.
With the regular PS4 being under $200.
Some form of Zen + Vega IP-wise would seem as the next logical step. The problem is that building a chip at this moment based on those and expecting a decent jump in performance would blow the chip size. My guess is that we won't see any radically changed console without the foundries (whether it's GloFo or TSMC) moving beyond 14/16nm. The question is when they will have the capacity for full production on whatever process it is they'll be using.
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