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Sony's actual quietness

Drencrom

Member
No need to dogpile a user over 'console warz'

Ask, and ye shall receive! ;)

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Been quite awhile since GAF made quality gifs like this
 
i love these posts and those are just from page 3.

I am glad gaf is catching on to Spencer's bullshit. I thought i was the only who didnt trust this guy always saying the right thing and then turning around and doing the complete opposite. For all his talk of being pro games and gamers and doing right by gamers, he has a pretty pathetic record when it comes to delivering.

I mean the guy cancelled a Fable game, a kamiya game, an Obsidian game, a new IP he announced in 2013 and then turned around and made the devs make yet another soulless gears of war game. the guy spent a $100 million on the rights to gears of war IP alone. Why not take that money and build kojima a $100 million studio. He spent $2.9 billion on fucking minecraft. imagine the kind of talented studios you can build with that much cash. They could be set for decades pumping out new IPs one after another. Horizon cost Sony $48 million. The first three Uncharteds cost Sony $20 million each. that's chump change for a company like MS.

And what does he want to do now? Focus on service based games instead of single player games Sony specializes in. To him, it's all about making the most cash instead of innovating and actually moving the industry forward. Games like Uncharted, TLOU, Horizon, Bloodborne and The Last Guardian wont make Sony billions, maybe a couple of hundred million tops, but they earn them cred with gamers who appreciate an alternative to dozens of soulless multiplayer shooters every year.

This guy is probably the only guy who looked at the Ghost Recon sales and Horizon sales and said you know what, I'd rather have the 73 metacritic game and the extra cash it brings than Horizon, a game that blew away pretty much everyone in the industry and set new standards for graphics, open world combat, writing, female lead and storytelling.

And yet Sony does more than just release these mega franchises. they are constantly patterning with Japanese studios to ship games like Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0 Nier 2, Nioh and Persona 5 this quarter alone. Why in the world are these games allowed to be PS4 exclusives? I understand Gravity rush since it's made by a Sony studio, but the others are third party games Sony didnt even bother to show off in their multiple press conferences last year. they are like free exclusives. Why didnt Phill go after these guys? I mean he gave us the answer a few days ago, but to me these japanese games are proof that this guy just doesn't give a shit about giving gamers what they want. he wants to make money and that's ok, just dont pretend that you are on the side of gamers and are doing your best to give them what they want.

What a phony.

P.S What did Sony do last gen when they were in last place? Losing billions every year, they decided to instead focus on their first and second party partfolio. Uncharted, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, LBP, Infamous, MAG, fucking PS All Stars, TLOU, Heavy Rain, Beyond all new IPs. In one gen. They went out and bought Evolution Studios, GG, MM and Sucker Punch as soon as they started breaking even around 2009. What does Phill do? Cancel games, shut down studios and talk about how its not profitable to invest in SP games. Fuck off.

Wow,to think maybe I'm the one who also thought phil was BS. You prove me wrong
 
P.S I am not angry. Just disappointed. My gaf account didnt activate until late 2015 so most of my angry sony rants are on different forums. But i liked MS' output early this gen. They had easily the better launch lineup than Sony. Ryse sucked but that's mostly on Crytek. Titanfall was a great game, and Sunset was my GOTY that year when Sony just released a mediocre Infamous game and rushed out DriveClub and called it a day. I looked at Sunset and thought that hey maybe MS will finally start making more than just shooters. But nope, three years and two very mediocre Halo and Gears entries later, its clear Phill was just bullshitting us.

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Driveclub was rushed ? In what world ? The game was delayed from it's initial release and was hit with issues nobody saw or could test due to the demand. That's rushed ?
 

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Considering all the great exclusive (wholesale or console only) games on their platforms, I'd say maybe they're just enjoying this first half of the year.

I'd imagine a bunch of new announcements/reveals at E3. I *HOPE* God of War gets a solid release date and they announce at least one first party title for Q4.
 
Considering all the great exclusive (wholesale or console only) games on their platforms, I'd say maybe they're just enjoying this first half of the year.

I'd imagine a bunch of new announcements/reveals at E3. I *HOPE* God of War gets a solid release date and they announce at least one first party title for Q4.
GT Sport.
 

black070

Member
I'm holding strong with my prediction of Detroit: Become Human being a December release. Knack 2 will be September, Gran Turismo Sport will be October and the rest will be 2018.

Keep in mind, Ni No Kuni II is still expected this year. ;)
 
I was so annoyed when they added that. If someone isn't playing the same game as me chances are I'm playing something single player and don't want to hear them ramble at me.

Worst addition to gaming ever IMHO. Sure you need to talk while playing mp games but otherwise it just ruins other types of game.

So what... it was great feature, and still is, for people that use it. I used to just play fighting games and talk to buddies as they would too. Today mean my guys watch Dave Chappell in parties and so forth. *shrugs*

I hat COD and GTA.. still don't stop people from buying, playing and using that shit.
 

BigEmil

Junior Member
I feel like I should be getting some credit for Bollywood Kaz
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Oh definitely dude haha wouldn't have been born without you the posting the original
Sony coming out like.

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Ask, and ye shall receive! ;)

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Perfection
Sweet Jeezus!! I'm gonna need a link to this movie clip as well!!!
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Toe-Knee

Member
So what... it was great feature, and still is, for people that use it. I used to just play fighting games and talk to buddies as they would too. Today mean my guys watch Dave Chappell in parties and so forth. *shrugs*

I hat COD and GTA.. still don't stop people from buying, playing and using that shit.


For you its fine but I mostly pay sorry heavy games I don't want people wittering over it.

Thank God for appear offline!
 

Lifeline

Member
So talking about investing in and creating more exclusives > actually having a line up of a ton of exclusives.

I don't get this thread.


At least it turned into a E3 hype thread with Bollywood gifs.
 

KageMaru

Member
They have been killing it with early 2017 games, so I don't see what they need to speak out.
Also E3 is not too far off...
MS is going to be launching a new console this year, so it's only natural that they talk more imo.

First reply nails it IMO. They talked plenty last year when they had new hardware to promote. Now they just need to provide the games for that hardware and they have been doing a great job with that.
 
For you its fine but I mostly pay sorry heavy games I don't want people wittering over it.

Thank God for appear offline!

I feel you.. I don't want people messing with me when I'm playing persona 5, KH.. hell, I don't use it for many things as is. But when it was a thing, it was valued. And especially missing the casualness on PS3 hurt too
 

Tripolygon

Banned
Nope, its not. But you'd need the sort of semi-SLI setup of the Pro's APU in order to pull it off.
PS4 Pro is not SLI or Semi SLI, but the original post is correct, Sony has the patent for the ID Buffer hardware in Pro APU as well thier implementation of checkerboard rendering and other Pro exclusive features.

Other developers have their own implementation which should be able to run on any GPU.
 
Is it just me or things have been very quiet recently on Sony's side ? I mean since PSX, they have been radio silent while MS with Spencer have been very active in gaming medias.

Is it a Calm before Storm situation we are witnessing or are they a bit overconfident with their actual position in the market ?

I was also thinking about this the other day.

Definitely the calm before the storm. They are really good at knowing when NOT to talk.

Phil Spencer can build all the hype that he wants for E3, but if their announcements don't match the hype he's trying to generate, it's going to be a disappointment.

Conversely, Sony fans are going to be hyped because they really don't know what to expect going into it. No expectations = bigger hype when it's all over.
 
OP, does Sony really "need" to talk about anything right now? Microsoft has been pretty talkative lately because they have new hardware to hype up. I can't think of anything coming to PS4 soon that would really require Shu to go on a press tour. That's not a bad thing, it's just the way these things work.
 
Driveclub was rushed ? In what world ? The game was delayed from it's initial release and was hit with issues nobody saw or could test due to the demand. That's rushed ?
They released the game unfinished. It had no weather effects and no replays. Had they released the game 6 months later, Im sure scores would have been way higher.
 

CyberChulo

Member
Didn't Yoshida say last year that there weren't going to make announcements for games that are coming like 1 or 2 years away and instead are announcing games that are coming within the 6 month period? I hope so!
 
Didn't Yoshida say last year that there weren't going to make announcements for games that are coming like 1 or 2 years away and instead are announcing games that are coming within the 6 month period? I hope so!

No he said they wont announce release dates until they are certain from now on.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Driveclub was rushed ? In what world ? The game was delayed from it's initial release and was hit with issues nobody saw or could test due to the demand. That's rushed ?

That's why you have open betas. Their weather system wasnt ready either.
 

Chille

Member
For people hoping for Q4 announcements, I would be shocked as Sony is smart enough to know that those months are now just the main time for multiplats.
 

eerik9000

Member
Wait, is this true?? It can't be that much. I thought Xbone was around 40m.

No way. PS4 is outselling Xbox One with ratios of 3:1 (France) to 60:1 (Japan) in every major non-English speaking market. USA and UK are the two countries that keep Xbox afloat.
 

fantomena

Member
Lol Sony is coasting now...theyll show some GoW gameplay, more footage for TLOU and FF7 and Shenmue...

Their false sense of security and massive lead has them become complacent...

But from the horizon...the sound of DMX- X Gon give it to gets louder and

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Can someone explain this post? I don't understand. What is DMX -X Gon?

i love these posts and those are just from page 3.

I am glad gaf is catching on to Spencer's bullshit. I thought i was the only who didnt trust this guy always saying the right thing and then turning around and doing the complete opposite. For all his talk of being pro games and gamers and doing right by gamers, he has a pretty pathetic record when it comes to delivering.

I mean the guy cancelled a Fable game, a kamiya game, an Obsidian game, a new IP he announced in 2013 and then turned around and made the devs make yet another soulless gears of war game. the guy spent a $100 million on the rights to gears of war IP alone. Why not take that money and build kojima a $100 million studio. He spent $2.9 billion on fucking minecraft. imagine the kind of talented studios you can build with that much cash. They could be set for decades pumping out new IPs one after another. Horizon cost Sony $48 million. The first three Uncharteds cost Sony $20 million each. that's chump change for a company like MS.

And what does he want to do now? Focus on service based games instead of single player games Sony specializes in. To him, it's all about making the most cash instead of innovating and actually moving the industry forward. Games like Uncharted, TLOU, Horizon, Bloodborne and The Last Guardian wont make Sony billions, maybe a couple of hundred million tops, but they earn them cred with gamers who appreciate an alternative to dozens of soulless multiplayer shooters every year.

This guy is probably the only guy who looked at the Ghost Recon sales and Horizon sales and said you know what, I'd rather have the 73 metacritic game and the extra cash it brings than Horizon, a game that blew away pretty much everyone in the industry and set new standards for graphics, open world combat, writing, female lead and storytelling.

And yet Sony does more than just release these mega franchises. they are constantly patterning with Japanese studios to ship games like Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0 Nier 2, Nioh and Persona 5 this quarter alone. Why in the world are these games allowed to be PS4 exclusives? I understand Gravity rush since it's made by a Sony studio, but the others are third party games Sony didnt even bother to show off in their multiple press conferences last year. they are like free exclusives. Why didnt Phill go after these guys? I mean he gave us the answer a few days ago, but to me these japanese games are proof that this guy just doesn't give a shit about giving gamers what they want. he wants to make money and that's ok, just dont pretend that you are on the side of gamers and are doing your best to give them what they want.

What a phony.

P.S What did Sony do last gen when they were in last place? Losing billions every year, they decided to instead focus on their first and second party partfolio. Uncharted, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, LBP, Infamous, MAG, fucking PS All Stars, TLOU, Heavy Rain, Beyond all new IPs. In one gen. They went out and bought Evolution Studios, GG, MM and Sucker Punch as soon as they started breaking even around 2009. What does Phill do? Cancel games, shut down studios and talk about how its not profitable to invest in SP games. Fuck off.

I agreed. I mean, I fucking sold my Xbone in order to buy a Switch because my Xbone was so useless due to no interesting games other than Crackdown 3 which is also coming to PC. If you don't believe me, check up the thread I made here iasking what to do before selling an Xbone. Ive never ever sold a console before. Lol, I even have 2 PSPs and 2 3DSs.

Ive drawn parallels before to Trump tweets aka. "saying simple things that means little to nothing".

I sometimes even feel like Mattrick did better than Phil, but that's just a stomach feeling.

I still remembering al lthe hype that was made on GAF and the Xbone subreddit when Phil took over how everything's gonna change. Yeah, he did goos stuff with features, game pass, bc, updates, but where's the reason I own a console: games?
 
Considering all the great exclusive (wholesale or console only) games on their platforms, I'd say maybe they're just enjoying this first half of the year.

I'd imagine a bunch of new announcements/reveals at E3. I *HOPE* God of War gets a solid release date and they announce at least one first party title for Q4.

What I'd give to have Detroit come out in September. Obviously not any later than that in the year, because it would just get obliterated by the rush of AAA releases through October to December, but yeah... September would be a real sweet spot.

I think realistically though Detroit will be out Q1 2018. GT Sport has a real chance of coming out this year though.
 

Thorrgal

Member
Yep. And Phil talking in recent interviews like they're real experts in analysing the market, about how single player story driven games are dead and games should be a service now.. all whilst Sony and Nintendo keep releasing hugely successful single player games that sell in incredible numbers and push their hardware to do the same. Sounds like excuses to me.

I was such a fan of the 360, I can't believe how little interest I have in what they're doing now. They lost me with the XBO reveal and even with Phil's promises there's no interest for me.

You express my feelings perfectly

Way to spin words like I've never seen them spin. Hyperbole at its best.

Those words couldn't be further away from hyperbole and spin.

It's funny that when people have no logical rebuttal they answer with "joke post?", " Lol" or shouting spin!, Hyperbole! etc.
 

cakely

Member
I was so annoyed when they added that. If someone isn't playing the same game as me chances are I'm playing something single player and don't want to hear them ramble at me.

Worst addition to gaming ever IMHO. Sure you need to talk while playing mp games but otherwise it just ruins other types of game.

It's optional, if you don't want to hear your friends in voice chat, don't join a party with them.

I, for one, really missed cross-game party chat on the PS3. It felt like a glaring omission to me coming from the Xbox 360.
 
Is it just me or things have been very quiet recently on Sony's side ? I mean since PSX, they have been radio silent while MS with Spencer have been very active in gaming medias.

Is it a Calm before Storm situation we are witnessing or are they a bit overconfident with their actual position in the market ?
You would rather them be like Spencer and talk a lot without actually committing to anything?

What happened to actions speak louder than words
 
What I'd give to have Detroit come out in September. Obviously not any later than that in the year, because it would just get obliterated by the rush of AAA releases through October to December, but yeah... September would be a real sweet spot.

I think realistically though Detroit will be out Q1 2018. GT Sport has a real chance of coming out this year though.
Detroit will be 2017. Believe.
 

Rei_Toei

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With God of War, Spiderman, TLOU2 and Days Gone Sony already has a really nice line-up of AAA. Bit heavy on the post-apo side but I'm fine with that ;) I'm quite curious to see if we'll already hear something about Horizon DLC and what exactly the Japanese studios will have to show. Maybe something new from Keiichiro Toyama?
 
No way. PS4 is outselling Xbox One with ratios of 3:1 (France) to 60:1 (Japan) in every major non-English speaking market. USA and UK are the two countries that keep Xbox afloat.

should be sitting at 30 mil

hence why ms stopped giving us hw sales and give us MAU's instead.

ps4 the de facto leader this gen
 
With God of War, Spiderman, TLOU2 and Days Gone Sony already has a really nice line-up of AAA. Bit heavy on the post-apo side but I'm fine with that ;) I'm quite curious to see if we'll already hear something about Horizon DLC and what exactly the Japanese studios will have to show. Maybe something new from Keiichiro Toyama?
He just started working on a new action adventure game.
 

Vinc

Member
I like Destiny and can enjoy MP shooters and service games, but I feel like we get plenty of these games now. I get that Sony could be making more money off its studios' projects if they were following market trends, but I feel like they're a much, much, MUCH more compelling publisher when they COVER the holes left by third party service games. Third parties are already really good at covering that type of game and chasing market trends. I don't need first parties to provide those for me. First party games and exclusives being insanely good versions of an essentially dying breed are the very reason I absolutely adore my PS4. That ends up being my gateway to those service games.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I agreed. I mean, I fucking sold my Xbone in order to buy a Switch because my Xbone was so useless due to no interesting games other than Crackdown 3 which is also coming to PC. If you don't believe me, check up the thread I made here iasking what to do before selling an Xbone. Ive never ever sold a console before. Lol, I even have 2 PSPs and 2 3DSs.

Ive drawn parallels before to Trump tweets aka. "saying simple things that means little to nothing".

I sometimes even feel like Mattrick did better than Phil, but that's just a stomach feeling.

I still remembering al lthe hype that was made on GAF and the Xbone subreddit when Phil took over how everything's gonna change. Yeah, he did goos stuff with features, game pass, bc, updates, but where's the reason I own a console: games?
I didnt sell my X1 because of Scalebound, sea of thieves and other games he's been showing off the past few years. with scalebound gone and crackdown nowhere in sight two years after reveal i am starting to feel a bit ripped off. After all, this isnt the first time he has cancelled a game after showing it at E3. The Black Tusk new IP told me that despite the $500 price tag, MS was still trying to invest in new IPs. I bought the fucking console at launch and he cancelled it in favor of Gears of War.

Now i wont even get $100 for a console i paid $500 for just three years ago.
 
I didnt sell my X1 because of Scalebound, sea of thieves and other games he's been showing off the past few years. with scalebound gone and crackdown nowhere in sight two years after reveal i am starting to feel a bit ripped off. After all, this isnt the first time he has cancelled a game after showing it at E3. The Black Tusk new IP told me that despite the $500 price tag, MS was still trying to invest in new IPs. I bought the fucking console at launch and he cancelled it in favor of Gears of War.

Now i wont even get $100 for a console i paid $500 for just three years ago.
I don't wanna make u feel even worst but uh crackdown was introduced e3 2014..almost 3 years..carry on
 
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