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Sally Yates testifies before Senate subcmte re: Flynn/Russ today 2:30EST (livestream)

ElRenoRaven

Member
Any big things happen from this? I've missed basically the whole thing.

Nothing more then others sadly. A whole lot of I can't answer that followed by Yates setting republicans on fire followed by more why did you not do what Master Trump told you to do. Rinse and repeat.
 

Protome

Member
Why do they keep bringing up the travel ban anyway?

Is it to try to get her to say something that they can use as an attack on her character or something? I don't get it if this is about ties to russia.

They don't want to ask anything related to the actual issue because they love their Trumps but they don't want to skip their questions because that makes it a bit too obvious.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Yes, I am certain Grassley is being so helpful on legislation to expose shell corporation money funneling operations in regards to this hearing matter...
 

Allard

Member
Why do they keep bringing up the travel ban anyway?

Is it to try to get her to say something that they can use as an attack on her character or something? I don't get it if this is about ties to russia.

They are trying to catch her in something because the travel ban is what she supposedly got fired for and they are trying to corner her saying she didn't due her duty (and likewise make her a partisan shill from Obama and thus diminish her testimony in regards to what she was called up for). Its pure character assassination attempt because she happens to be under testimony in front of the Senate Judicial committee.
 
Hey guys. I wasn't watching the whole thing.

Did anyone ask Sally Yates if she leaked the information to the Washington Post?

I had the count at four times. Anyone corroborate?
 

MechaX

Member
Any big things happen from this? I've missed basically the whole thing.

Basically this is what happened:

1) Yates told the White House about the Flynn concerns at least three times
2) GOP does not care what is being leaked, but only about the leaker
3) Reporting unclassified information to the press is, believe it or not, not leaking
4) Ted Cruz got bodied
5) Most of the GOP used this hearing as an opportunity to attack Yates about the travel ban. Only one Republican asked about the Russian influence.
 

Protome

Member
I don't disagree with them that they should be looking into who leaked classified information, even if the public has undoubtedly benefited from it.

It's the fact they brought it up again and again and again despite being given the answers "If it was an unmasking the collection agency will know" and "If it wasn't an unmasking, the collection agency already unmasked it" to in no half measures say "ASK THE COLLECTION AGENCY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT" that I take major annoyance with.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
God I really should not watch Graham speak. Every time he opens his mouth it makes me want to punch him in the face repeatedly nonstop.
 

Maxim726X

Member
I don't disagree with them that they should be looking into who leaked classified information, even if the public has undoubtedly benefited from it.

It's the fact they brought it up again and again and again despite being given the answers "If it was an unmasking the collection agency will know" and "If it wasn't an unmasking, the collection agency already unmasked it" to in no half measures say "ASK THE COLLECTION AGENCY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT" that I take major annoyance with.

Just slightly more relevant than bringing up the Muslim ban EO.

Staying on topic apparently is a challenge.
 
Basically this is what happened:

1) Yates told the White House about the Flynn concerns at least three times
2) GOP does not care what is being leaked, but only about the leaker
3) Reporting unclassified information to the press is, believe it or not, not leaking
4) Ted Cruz got bodied
5) Most of the GOP used this hearing as an opportunity to attack Yates about the travel ban. Only one Republican asked about the Russian influence.

Cruz even seemed to go after Clinton's e-mails at one point. In an utterly absurd moment.
 
Jeffrey toobin dropping truth bombs on CNN lol

He said Yates went to the whitehouse 3 times to say Flynn is probably compromised, nothing happens, someone leaks that to Washington post, then Flynn is fired, now republicans focusing on who leaked the story, not that Flynn is a traitor.
 

Ernest

Banned
Headline on almost every news site:

Yates warned Trump Administration of Flynn Blackmail risk

Headline on Fox News:

INSPIRED BY TEXAS?
Sanctuary city bans could spread to other states after new law signed
 

cackhyena

Member
Jeffrey toobin dropping truth bombs on CNN lol

He said Yates went to the whitehouse 3 times to say Flynn is probably compromised, nothing happens, someone leaks that to Washington post, then Flynn is fired, now republicans focusing on who leaked the story, not that Flynn is a traitor.

Look there's only one Jeffrey you can trust and that's Lord, okay. I'll wait for the real talk thank you very much.
 

Unison

Member
Any big things happen from this? I've missed basically the whole thing.

- Clapper confirmed the Guardian's reporting that in 2015 British intelligence turned over information on the Trump campaign's ties to Russia. This undercuts him being quoted ad nauseum by the GOP/Trump saying the opposite.... He's essentially retracted that statement, saying he was speaking from a place of ignorance.

- Everything we feared about Yates informing the WH about Flynn and them doing nothing seems to be confirmed. Her notifying the WH seemingly did nothing to change their standing with Flynn.

- Yates said that Flynn talked to the FBI without a lawyer in the WH and lied.

- The overall partisanship of the questions is disgusting as ever. Bringing up Hillary's e-mails or Yates' authority in refusing to back the illegal Muslim ban is absurd in this context.
 

Protome

Member
- Clapper confirmed the Guardian's reporting that in 2015 British intelligence turned over information on the Trump campaign's ties to Russia. This undercuts him being quoted ad nauseum by the GOP/Trump saying the opposite.... He's essentially retracted that statement, saying he was speaking from a place of ignorance.

- Everything we feared about Yates informing the WH about Flynn and them doing nothing seems to be confirmed. Her notifying the WH seemingly did nothing to change their standing with Flynn.

- Yates said that Flynn talked to the FBI without a lawyer in the WH and lied.

- The overall partisanship of the questions is disgusting as ever. Bringing up Hillary's e-mails or Yates' authority in refusing to back the illegal Muslim ban is absurd in this context.

Ironically though what was probably one of the biggest and most worrying things to come from this was from questions about the Muslim ban.

Confirmation that the White House instructed people not to tell the DOJ about their EO before it was signed is terrifying. Even if it did end up backfiring on them. They were trying to ignore the courts way earlier than we had confirmation of before.

Also, a correction on your third point. She made pretty blatant that she couldn't comment on the FBI interview with Flynn, not that he lied during that interview. She did confirm that if he had that would be illegal but couldn't comment on what was said in it. Unless I missed something?
 
- The overall partisanship of the questions is disgusting as ever. Bringing up Hillary's e-mails or Yates' authority in refusing to back the illegal Muslim ban is absurd in this context.

I'm impressed at their non-subtlety of dragging Huma into that inquiry. but bipartisanship tho!

Has Al Franken's comments been clipped anywhere yet?
 
I don't disagree with them that they should be looking into who leaked classified information, even if the public has undoubtedly benefited from it.

It's the fact they brought it up again and again and again despite being given the answers "If it was an unmasking the collection agency will know" and "If it wasn't an unmasking, the collection agency already unmasked it" to in no half measures say "ASK THE COLLECTION AGENCY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT" that I take major annoyance with.

For me, it's more the fact that it was brought up here at all. The leaks have NOTHING to do with Russia's interference at all. If you want some proceedings, start your own damn hearing, but keep this one focused on Russia.

To say nothing of the fact that the Russia threat is about 1000 to 1 versus the threat of leaks.
 

Sobriquet

Member
Now, uh, Mrs. Yates, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
 
How come no one is shitting on the GOP senators for bringing up the EO? They should be torn apart.
I'm glad they brought up the EO.

It lays their priorities in this investigation of Russian meddling and collusion bare, and they got their asses handed to them on every angle.
 
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