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3DS HOMEBREW Discussion Thread [exploits/carts/applications/games]

Moreche

Member
Is there any need to keep the homebrew launcher if I have a9lh installed on my 3DS?
I'm finding that I just use fbi To install most things using the QR reader.
But I'm worried that deleting the hbl will bring problems.
 

mike4001_

Member
Is there any need to keep the homebrew launcher if I have a9lh installed on my 3DS?
I'm finding that I just use fbi To install most things using the QR reader.
But I'm worried that deleting the hbl will bring problems.

No you can delete it when you are not using any homebrew apps.

If you need it again, just reinstall it via FBI.
 

Adam Prime

hates soccer, is Mexican
Okay, what's the deal with NEStopia?

I updated the newest .cia from the FBI TitleDB, so it's version 1.5, and it sucks ass. Its in the XMB theme now. You can't change the aspect ratio and there's like less options, I can't remap buttons like I had before when I had save state and load mapped to zR and zL. Those mapping options are nowhere in the menu anymore.

I do not know which version i was previously using. I went back to the retroarch page and redownloaded the last stable builds going back to 1.3, but none of them have the menu I'm used to, they still have the XMB style menu with alot leas options in the menu and quick menu.


... Anyone else know what I'm talking about? What am I missing here?
 
Okay, what's the deal with NEStopia?

I updated the newest .cia from the FBI TitleDB, so it's version 1.5, and it sucks ass. Its in the XMB theme now. You can't change the aspect ratio and there's like less options, I can't remap buttons like I had before when I had save state and load mapped to zR and zL. Those mapping options are nowhere in the menu anymore.

I do not know which version i was previously using. I went back to the retroarch page and redownloaded the last stable builds going back to 1.3, but none of them have the menu I'm used to, they still have the XMB style menu with alot leas options in the menu and quick menu.


... Anyone else know what I'm talking about? What am I missing here?
Sounds like you want to switch to the rgui menu and/or activate advanced options.
 

b3b0p

Member
Are the emulators better than the VC injects? Maybe for any particular games? What's the advantage of using Retroarch over the injects/CIA? Any thing in terms of playability or compatibility? Lag, speed, accuracy?
 
Are the emulators better than the VC injects? Maybe for any particular games? What's the advantage of using Retroarch over the injects/CIA? Any thing in terms of playability or compatibility? Lag, speed, accuracy?
Depends on the game - however I'm fairly certain NES, GB, GBC, GBA and SNES injects will always beat RetroArch in terms of accuracy. Genesis ones are iffy so I don't bother with them.
 

b3b0p

Member
Depends on the game - however I'm fairly certain NES, GB, GBC, GBA and SNES injects will always beat RetroArch in terms of accuracy. Genesis ones are iffy so I don't bother with them.

Have you (or anyone?) tried Super Mario RPG? From my research this game doesn't seem to play well if at all. What about Star Fox or Yoshi's Island? If I could play these on my n3DS at work during lunch I'd cry tears of joy.
 

Moreche

Member
Have you (or anyone?) tried Super Mario RPG? From my research this game doesn't seem to play well if at all. What about Star Fox or Yoshi's Island? If I could play these on my n3DS at work during lunch I'd cry tears of joy.
I'm finding SNES9X on the New N3DSXL from the gbatemp forums to be the best. The right amount of customisation and performance.
SMRPG works great.
 
So I'm pretty sure I bricked a N3DSXL and could use some advice. So I'm at the part where you're on 2.1.0 and aren't supposed to close the system, right? I complete those steps fine and move on to the next section, which is to load up 2xrsa.3ds.guide in the browser. Ooops, I forgot to set up wifi - so I hit the home button and it freezes going back to the home menu. Crap... I tried to wait it out but eventually forced it to turn off by holding the power button. Now I get a blue light and two black screens when I turn the thing on. Did I just ruin someone's LE 3DS? :/

Edit: simply removing the sd card fixes it and I can boot
Edit 2: Success!
 

Doopliss

Member
So I'm pretty sure I bricked a N3DSXL and could use some advice. So I'm at the part where you're on 2.1.0 and aren't supposed to close the system, right? I complete those steps fine and move on to the next section, which is to load up 2xrsa.3ds.guide in the browser. Ooops, I forgot to set up wifi - so I hit the home button and it freezes going back to the home menu. Crap... I tried to wait it out but eventually forced it to turn off by holding the power button. Now I get a blue light and two black screens when I turn the thing on. Did I just ruin someone's LE 3DS? :/
Your best chance of getting help is to ask on the Discord linked from the guide.
 

Tommi84

Member
So I'm pretty sure I bricked a N3DSXL and could use some advice.

Edit 2: Success!

Had the same with mine. Scary part, I tell you. Mine additionally stuck at downloading the thingy from the website and I had to restart the machine and was like 'is it like in the guide saying that it will freeze up or I'm screwed?' finally, I was able to have cfw on both Original and New 3DS.

Glad it worked out!
 

Olrik

Neo Member
From 3ds.guide:

Please note that this guide will have very large changes coming later today. Please finish any in-progress installations as quickly as possible, and wait to start any new installations.

Seems SigHax is finally coming.
 
Seems like it's out now.

http://www.sighax.com

And 3ds.guide is updated


Maybe now I can finally stop being lazy and move from the menuhax/luma set up I have to something more modern.

Can you please explain what you mean? Are you saying your 3ds is already hacked but you're going to rehack it using a different method? If so, why?

Because both menuhax and luma fail to boot probably 3/5 times with the setup I have now. And Luma just made a commit that will bar all future Luma releases from working with menuhax. Plus the latest NTR does not work with the setup I have, either, and I'd like to try the video streaming feature of that.

Ah I see, thanks.
 

Aeana

Member
Can you please explain what you mean? Are you saying your 3ds is already hacked but you're going to rehack it using a different method? If so, why?

Because both menuhax and luma fail to boot probably 3/5 times with the setup I have now. And Luma just made a commit that will bar all future Luma releases from working with menuhax. Plus the latest NTR does not work with the setup I have, either, and I'd like to try the video streaming feature of that.
 

Saikyo

Member
So if someone is trying to install a CFW on a 11.4 3DS they need to or hardmod it or need another 3DS with CFW and having a legtimate DSiWare game? Dont sound easy as past methods but still great there is a way now.
 

Knurek

Member
Seems like it's out now.

http://www.sighax.com

And 3ds.guide is updated

Maybe now I can finally stop being lazy and move from the menuhax/luma set up I have to something more modern.

I can confirm moving from al9hax to sighax is easy peasy, takes about 15 minutes.
Take note though, of all luma chainloaders only GodMode9 seems to be ported to the new format, so if you have emotional attachment to Decrypt9, you're out of luck for now.
(GdMode9 can do anything Decrypt9 did and more though)
 

Aeana

Member
I can confirm moving from al9hax to sighax is easy peasy, takes about 15 minutes.
Take note though, of all luma chainloaders only GodMode9 seems to be ported to the new format, so if you have emotional attachment to Decrypt9, you're out of luck for now.
(GdMode9 can do anything Decrypt9 did and more though)
I don't have a9l. I never did it since it sounded risky/time consuming. Boot9strap seems way faster, and safer.
 

Kadin

Member
For those wanting to upgrade from a9lh to boot9strap, go to this page which is within the main 3ds.guide site.

edit: And to reiterate what Knurek said, the whole process was incredibly fast to do. Once I had the files, it took maybe 5-6 mins to do the upgrade. Too easy.
 

Knurek

Member
What are the benefits of boot9strap?

You can't use versions of Luma higher than 7.1 with anything other than b9strap.
You can dump bootroms and otp with b9strap without having to downgrade to 2.0 FW.

Given how fast the community has moved from al9h to this, I'm guessing there are several other improvements to overall system stability and other minor adjustments and bug fixes have been made to enhance the user experience.
 

Joey Ravn

Banned
I updated from A9HL to Sighax. The transition was incredibly easy.

Now, let me ask you... What are the benefits for the end-user? Will we see anything massive like the switch from Themehax to A9HL?
 
Oh wow. I have been out of the loop for way too long.
I always thought A9Lh was the final state of 3DS hacking, "this can't get any better".
But apparantly it can. But it seems updating is easy, so no problems there I expect.
But, from a technical point of view, how is this different?
I see some peope describing this as true custom firmware, instead of just something that runs on top of the offical one. But the process still involves Luma, but that's still a patch, isn't it?
 

Platy

Member
Can't find anything about sighax in the guide for 3DS XL, I am missing something or is it under a different name like hardmod?
 
I updated from A9HL to Sighax. The transition was incredibly easy.

Now, let me ask you... What are the benefits for the end-user? Will we see anything massive like the switch from Themehax to A9HL?

There really shouldn't be any direct benefits for an end user. This takes control a few milliseconds earlier which lets you dump the Bootrooms (both ARM9 and ARM11) and OTP. Unless you have some kind of console death wish and wish to try permanently writing fake signed Firmware to your system it can't really do anything A9LH couldn't apart from that.


Oh wow. I have been out of the loop for way too long.
I always thought A9Lh was the final state of 3DS hacking, "this can't get any better".
But apparantly it can. But it seems updating is easy, so no problems there I expect.
But, from a technical point of view, how is this different?
I see some peope describing this as true custom firmware, instead of just something that runs on top of the offical one. But the process still involves Luma, but that's still a patch, isn't it?

Yeah, Boot9Strap and Luma still do this as on the fly patches after a compromise (just the compromise is earlier),. There is a SigHax implementation out there that does it as a permanent write but there doesn't seem to be much that supports it.

@Platy
Its Boot9Strap , which is the SigHax implementation being used here.
 
Can't find anything about sighax in the guide for 3DS XL, I am missing something or is it under a different name like hardmod?

All the links are supposed to eventually use sighax now, the links are for entry method. If you already have Arm9LoaderHax installer you should use a separate method however, because the two conflict when installed independently of each other, and starting with A9LH is way easier if you already got it.

The guide also uses "boot9strap" label to be slightly more precise. To be pedantic, sighax is the exploit which makes ARM9 bootrom load anything, and the particular anything they used is boot9strap, which then loads stuff up from SD card (like Luma).

Now, let me ask you... What are the benefits for the end-user? Will we see anything massive like the switch from Themehax to A9HL?

Honestly the primary benefits to end user involve installation: no longer involving downgrading the firmware, hardmod version working on everything known today including hardly touchable Korean/Taiwanese/Chinese 3DSes etc.. If you already had A9LH installed, there aren't really obvious gains. Hack devs want you to move onto b9s to not support two of them, though maybe they'll dig out something in the future.
 

Joey Ravn

Banned
There really shouldn't be any direct benefits for an end user. This takes control a few milliseconds earlier which lets you dump the Bootrooms (both ARM9 and ARM11) and OTP. Unless you have some kind of console death wish and wish to try permanently writing fake signed Firmware to your system it can't really do anything A9LH couldn't apart from that.

Honestly the primary benefits to end user involve installation: no longer involving downgrading the firmware, hardmod version working on everything known today including hardly touchable Korean/Taiwanese/Chinese 3DSes etc.. If you already had A9LH installed, there aren't really obvious gains. Hack devs want you to move onto b9s to not support two of them, though maybe they'll dig out something in the future.

Awesome. Installation was quick and painless, so even if it doesn't bring any immediate benefits to us A9HL users, migrating to Sighax wasn't a waste.

Another question. What's the state of hacking 11.4? I know there's no way to install A9HL on a fresh 11.4 console, but does Sighax alter anything of the process? I'm asking about this because I've already pre-ordered a New 2DS and I would love to hack it, but it's definitely coming with 11.4 (or higher) out of the box!
 

L.O.R.D

Member
I don't have a9l. I never did it since it sounded risky/time consuming. Boot9strap seems way faster, and safer.

if you follow the A9LH method lately,you know that with soundhax it was very easy to install A9LH with 99.9 risk free.
the new method only changed couple of files,but it remains almost the same (except for 11.4)

Another question. What's the state of hacking 11.4? I know there's no way to install A9HL on a fresh 11.4 console, but does Sighax alter anything of the process? I'm asking about this because I've already pre-ordered a New 2DS and I would love to hack it, but it's definitely coming with 11.4 (or higher) out of the box!

New 2DSXL may comes with new chip,but if not,you can still hardmod or DSi transfer.
 

Platy

Member
@Platy
Its Boot9Strap , which is the SigHax implementation being used here.

Thanks !

All the links are supposed to eventually use sighax now, the links are for entry method. If you already have Arm9LoaderHax installer you should use a separate method however, because the two conflict when installed independently of each other, and starting with A9LH is way easier if you already got it.

The guide also uses "boot9strap" label to be slightly more precise. To be pedantic, sighax is the exploit which makes ARM9 bootrom load anything, and the particular anything they used is boot9strap, which then loads stuff up from SD card (like Luma).

I have absolutly NO IDEA what you talked about since I am 100% noob about this on 3ds.
Boot9strap ? ARM9 ? Bootrom ? Luma ?
Is there a dictionary or wiki somewhere ?
 

Shiv47

Member
Sorry for a potentially dumb question, but if I have a brand new New 3DS that I want to install homebrew on, I presume I need to transfer the Nintendo ID I want to use first from my previous 3DS, then do the homebrew set up?
 

Aeana

Member
if you follow the A9LH method lately,you know that with soundhax it was very easy to install A9LH with 99.9 risk free.
the new method only changed couple of files,but it remains almost the same (except for 11.4)



New 2DSXL may comes with new chip,but if not

you can still hardmod or DSi transfer.

Didn't a9l always require downgrading to 2.0? I was more concerned with the amount of time than risk, although risk of screwing up with the wifi thing worried me too.

That and not really understanding what I needed to do and what I didn't need to do since my 3DS is already hacked in a certain way and can already run things like homebrew menu.
 

L.O.R.D

Member
Didn't a9l always require downgrading to 2.0? I was more concerned with the amount of time than risk, although risk of screwing up with the wifi thing worried me too.

That and not really understanding what I needed to do and what I didn't need to do since my 3DS is already hacked in a certain way and can already run things like homebrew menu.

yes,with A9LH you must downgrade to 2.1,but several months ago it was updated with V3 or ctr transfer and the downgrade process to 2.1 will done automatically without hassle.

now with B9S doesn't requires any downgrade.

sorry,i misunderstood the method at first but what i meant is the last method for A9LH was very easy and 99% brick free.


Sorry for a potentially dumb question, but if I have a brand new New 3DS that I want to install homebrew on, I presume I need to transfer the Nintendo ID I want to use first from my previous 3DS, then do the homebrew set up?

on what update are you now?
 

L.O.R.D

Member
The current 3DS has 11.4.0-37U, the new New 3DS has 11.0.0-33U.

the 11.4 right now only with hardmod or DSi transfer according to 3ds.guide

11.0 can be easily hacked with Soundhax.

so,if you hacked the 11.0 and you have one of the followings DSi games on the hacked 3DS:
"Fieldrunners"
"Legends of Exidia"
"Guitar Rock Tour"
"The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords"

then you can inject a save file to those games and make system transfer to the 11.4 3DS.
 

Shiv47

Member
the 11.4 right now only with hardmod or DSi transfer according to 3ds.guide

11.0 can be easily hacked with Soundhax.

so,if you hacked the 11.0 and you have one of the followings DSi games on the hacked 3DS:
"Fieldrunners"
"Legends of Exidia"
"Guitar Rock Tour"
"The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords"

then you can inject a save file to those games and make system transfer to the 11.4 3DS.
Yeah, I see what you're saying about the 3dsguide info, but my question is this: the one running 11.0 is a new console I want to install homebrew on and make my regular console, and the 11.4 is the previous one that's been used everyday. If I install the homebrew on the 11.0 new console first, can I then transfer the profile from the 11.4 existing console over without problem? Or do I need to do the profile transfer first? Or does it not matter? Hopefully that all makes sense.
 
Yeah, I see what you're saying about the 3dsguide info, but my question is this: the one running 11.0 is a new console I want to install homebrew on and make my regular console, and the 11.4 is the previous one that's been used everyday. If I install the homebrew on the 11.0 new console first, can I then transfer the profile from the 11.4 existing console over without problem? Or do I need to do the profile transfer first? Or does it not matter? Hopefully that all makes sense.

Yeah, hack the 11.0 with Soundhax and install B9S, once that's done you can update to 11.4 and then just do a system transfer from the one on 11.4 and you're good to go.

Definitely do not transfer from the 11.4 first as you'll no longer have an access point other than hardmodding.
 

L.O.R.D

Member
Yeah, I see what you're saying about the 3dsguide info, but my question is this: the one running 11.0 is a new console I want to install homebrew on and make my regular console, and the 11.4 is the previous one that's been used everyday. If I install the homebrew on the 11.0 new console first, can I then transfer the profile from the 11.4 existing console over without problem? Or do I need to do the profile transfer first? Or does it not matter? Hopefully that all makes sense.

so your main 3DS is on 11.4? you don't want to loose what's in it,right?
maybe transfer that 3DS to a 3rd 3DS,but first

do you one of the 4 DSi games on the 11.0 3DS?
if no,then the only option is wait or do a hardmod.

but if you have one of the 4 DSi games on 11.4,then hack the 11.0 and update it then do system transfer from your main 3DS to the other 3DS and then inject the save and wait 7 days then transfer back.
 

randomkid

Member
So if I'm reading right, this whole process became even easier? I'm still a little terrified, but I guess I'll take the plunge. I wish there was a guide on top 5 rookie mistakes or things to keep in mind beforehand, but I'll just try to follow 3ds.guide extremely slowly. Playing DQ7 with an orchestrated soundtrack is too important to me!

On a 11.1 OG 3DS XL.
 
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