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CBO Releases AHCA Score: Details Coming In

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This is the most egregious example of "fuck the poor" I've ever seen.

Over 60% of a 64+ year-old's income solely for insurance premiums? That is absolutely unacceptable.
 

MikeRahl

Member
No, what was reported was that they had to wait for this to make sure it saves more than $2B (it does) because it wouldn't fly otherwise. In that case, they would have to revote



the health insurance and medical industries hate this bill

I thought they have to save $2 Billion under certain categories.

**EDIT FROM http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/cbo-score-republican-health-care-plan/index.html

Republicans can't just save $2 billion overall. They have to save $1 billion in the Senate Finance Committee and then $1 billion in the Senate HELP Committee.

I could just be misunderstanding what they means.
 

sangreal

Member
I really wish we could get a solid understanding of what this reconciliation thing really amounts to. I can't shake the fact that's been used so often as a term that we are now using it without realizing exactly what it means. I always thought there was supposed to be some type of time limit to when you can use reconciliation rules. Is there not? What exactly qualifies something to be passed under reconciliation?

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30458.pdf
 

Realyst

Member
This is the most egregious example of "fuck the poor" I've ever seen.

Over 60% of a 64+ year-old's income solely for insurance premiums? That is absolutely unacceptable.

Not to mention 60% of their income would go to WORSE coverage! And THAT's provided that they don't have any pre-existing conditions that would otherwise disqualify them from coverage.
 
Perfect way to market Conyers' single-payer bill is compare it to this mess. Republicans want to nearly double the number of uninsured, Democrats want to take that down to zero.
 

shiba5

Member
23 million would lose healthcare, that is the only line you need.

Democrats get those attack ads ready.

Everyone in the country is most likely going to know one of those 23 million be it family or friends. How many families will have to pay for elderly parents who no longer have insurance? It will impact far more than 23 million people.
 
Pretty sure this would not have passed the House if the score came out before the vote. Laughable. Paul Ryan, ladies and gentlemen.

And all those House members are in that giant photo op with Trump at the WH. Expect to see that a lot in ads leading up to next November.
 

RDreamer

Member
I'm hearing they don't have to revote on this? Dammit, I was hoping they would. Definitely going to call my Senators, though I know I won't sway either of them. One will probably vote for it and the other won't.
 

studyguy

Member
Arguably the most concerning part of all of this is a disclaimer:

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Upton amendment backfires and creates an incentive for states to actually get the waiver to drop coverage for pre-existing conditions.
 

Mrbob

Member
Listening on TV the Republican response is kind of funny.

"It's not as bad as expected". Good luck when people start losing their coverage.
 

Ponn

Banned
This is the most egregious example of "fuck the poor" I've ever seen.

Over 60% of a 64+ year-old's income solely for insurance premiums? That is absolutely unacceptable.

Now consider the average SS check. I think my moms is around $1400 a month. That leaves about $600 to pay bills, food, utilities, rent and oh yea, medicine and copays.
 
A savings of 119 billion in exchange for 23 million losing insurance comes out to $5,173 per person. Thats how much value your life has to the GOP.
 

DOWN

Banned
I mean have we also talked about the fact that they absolutely still must do something? Many people will be forced off the ACA soon because many people's rates jumped 30% last year and again this year. The number to become uninsured by leaving the ACA as it is will still be significant as far as I understand

This plan is likely much worse, but the ACA trajectory is also in trouble.
 

Ithil

Member
I mean have we also talked about the fact that they absolutely still must do something? Many people will be forced off the ACA soon because many people's rates jumped 30% last year and again this year. The number to become uninsured by leaving the ACA as it is will still be significant as far as I understand

This plan is likely much worse, but the ACA trajectory is also in trouble.

How about you actually try to help the ACA work instead of intentionally damaging it then trying to dump the entire thing?
 
I mean have we also talked about the fact that they absolutely still must do something? Many people will be forced off the ACA soon because many people's rates jumped 30% last year and again this year. The number to become uninsured by leaving the ACA as it is will still be significant as far as I understand

This plan is likely much worse, but the ACA trajectory is also in trouble.

This is like shooting your whole foot off with a shotgun because you have a rash.
 
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