giant_frying_pan
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Nintendo should release a stability fix for this.
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Samsung Releasing a patch to fix Switch auto Switching
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meltingparappa
Member
The issue is that it ONLY supports lpcm for surround sound, and not additionally the more popular and supported DTS like every other console.
So if you're plugging your switch into your tv, then running audio from the tv to a receiver, you're likely not getting actual 5.1 surround.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Its not a Switch problem, some TV producer simply don't follow the guidelines for HDMI.
it happened to me while I was tanking in FFXIV
Yes. In addition to Samsung, there's been reports of it happening on LG TVs, ASUS monitors and various HDMI switches.
BRocknRolla
Member
This is awesome. The sooner this happens, the better.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Same here. Or have it powered off while docked inst ad of in sleep mode. Annoying but I doubt Nintnedo will fix that and I have no need for a receiver in my mancave.
Triforce141
Member
Same problem too, I can't even turn it off while undocked since docking it turns the Switch back on.
It does. LGs, Sonys...
I hope Samsung makes it per-input, as all other devices that work well should not be affected.
The newest apple TV would also fire up the TV randomly, so annoying
RPG_Fanatic
Member
I doubt the signals the Switch sends while docked are glitches, or else Nintendo would have said something by now. It is most likely has something with the Switch features. This feels like an unfortunate case of features clashing with one another.
I have an LG monitor, JVC TV and Panasonic plasma. ALL of these devices suffer the Nintendo switch signal interruption. This is great that Samsung can solve the problem with their TV's... But Nintendo need to sort it themselves ASAP! It's the only issue i've encountered since owning the switch (not counting the left Joycon issue)
I have a Vizio TV and this happens 2-3 times an hour. I like my TV being able to detect active HDMI inputs and auto switch to that. I shouldn't have to turn off this feature for my switch to stop taking control if it is not even on. It's really fucking annoying and NINTENDO should fix it. Good on Samsung to provide a fix but this is Nintendo's problem because every other device I use works just fine and it's a shame that I have to keep my switch HDMI unplugged because Nintendo can't get it together.
Apple TVs also have a software issue related to this apparently.
I had to remove my Switch dock from my automatic HDMI switch because it kept tripping it up randomly while the console was docked.
Hopefully Nintendo fixes that eventually because it affects more than just Samsung TVs. Basically any HDMI input that detects a signal is picking up random signals from the Switch.
Hopefully Nintendo fixes that eventually because it affects more than just Samsung TVs. Basically any HDMI input that detects a signal is picking up random signals from the Switch.
TV manufacturers are notoriously bad at conforming to standards. A CEC compliant TV should wait for a connection to become electrically active, initiate and complete an HDMI (optionally HDCP) handshake, and then issue a CEC switch-to-me command. For a lot of reasons (incompetent firmware devs/avoidance of lag in slow embedded CPUs/"seeming snappy" etc) a lot of TVs "cheat" -- they don't wait for everything to complete and then switch only when receiving a command to switch inputs -- they assume a switch command is on its way earlier and start the input switch on the handshake start, or in the particularly aggressive Samsung case, when the port is electrically active.
This works great until it doesn't. Not every device is wired such that the port is off in every sleep state. The standard exists for a reason.
Scrotum Phillips
Member
Hah, I'm ridiculously happy about this.
The 'switch' just randomly happening just highlighted my laziness, which i don't need. I'd always forget to undock the Switch, and it would just happen at always the least opportune time. I honestly stopped playing my Switch as much because I had to keep it undocked. Curious that Samsung is fixing it, but happy nonetheless.
The 'switch' just randomly happening just highlighted my laziness, which i don't need. I'd always forget to undock the Switch, and it would just happen at always the least opportune time. I honestly stopped playing my Switch as much because I had to keep it undocked. Curious that Samsung is fixing it, but happy nonetheless.
Dsyndrome
Member
The Switch doing this to my HDMI selector is annoying as shit and the reason I unplug its HDMI whenever I'm not using it. When it's numerous devices being affected by one piece of hardware and every other device behaves properly, it's probably that hardware's fault and should be fixed by the hardware manufacturer (Nintendo).
Twenty7KVN
Member
I have a Samsung Smart tv and never had this happen to me. This is a problem that's effecting certain tv's,it's not a switch problem.
Mihos
Gold Member
It is absolutely a Switch problem. It is also not the first console to have HDMI issues at launch
Twenty7KVN
Member
I don't understand how it is though. I've had my switch since launch and never had this problem, maybe be someone more educated about the subject can explain it to me.
What's your TV set?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
If Nintendo had said nothing about it and Samsung is the one actually doing the patch and tv manufacturers are notorious for not conforming to the standards then it should be obvious that yes, this is not Nintendo's fault
It's not a Switch issue and it's been explained several times in this thread why it's related to the behavior of the HDMI switching functionally of certain Samsung TVs. Stop it please.
Then why is it an issue on many more brands? Has Samsung secretly made those TVs or have lots of TV manufacturers colluded to sabotage the Nintendo Switch, considering other input sources don't cause such issues?
Mihos
Gold Member
million reasons why you wouldn't see it. Everything from you have autoswitch disabled by default on that model to how it prioritizes signals when more than one is detected.
I have a programmable rack mount switch and was going to turn on logging to see if it was on a regular schedule, but I ended up having margarita's with the wife instead.
Twenty7KVN
Member
It's a Samsung tv i don't remember the model number, but it's a few years old and it supports hdmi cec.
You need to turn on your TV receiver separately. The Switch will not automatically turn on your TV receiver (unless the receiver itself has a CEC function, which I've not heard of before), so the TV will not switch automatically to the TV receiver.
And do you have automatic CEC switching enabled? For example, when you watch TV and then cast a Youtube video to your Chromecast, does the TV automatically Switch to the Chromecast as your input source?
SoldierIce64
Member
I'm glad to hear that, I have a 60inch KS8000 and it tends to switch input over to the Switch a few times during the day, I usually just end up unplugging the Switch's HDMI cord from the TV until I want to play it again.
Twenty7KVN
Member
I have auto switching enabled ( in fact i don't even know how to turn it off) and when i turn on my switch the tv switches to that input automatically.
ViolentP
Member
Right. Which is my exact setup. Also why it's pretty much confirmation this is a TV issue, or at the very least, an input box issue.
Dsyndrome
Member
Seeing as how it's not just Samsung but multiple HDMI switches, Apple TVs, etc., it does seem to be the Switch as the culprit.
Also, people saying that they're not having the problem so it doesn't exist are as bad as the people saying all Joycons are fine or the Dualshock 4's L3/R3 sticks didn't ever peel. Realize that you're not everyone and the problem can still be there even if you don't experience it.
Multiple different brands and models of TVs have reported the issue, so I think it's more of a Switch issue than a TV issue. Samsung is basically just backdoor fixing it by giving you an option to disable the auto-input switching.
I have a Vizo and had an LG before it and both had the same issue. It is a Nintendo problem because nothing else in my entertainment center does it an nothing else I have ever had has done it.
How do you see that as a confirmation that it's a TV issue, when you simply omit the Switch from the automatic switching system? If the Switch is not connected to a CEC-compatible device, there obviously aren't any issues related to automatic switching.
Considering lots of users, who all use different TVs and TV brands, experience issues with automatic switching only with their Switch and none of their other devices connected to their TVs, it's unlikely that it's a TV issue.
ViolentP
Member
Interesting. Rethinking it, it seems the TV is in fact working as intended. Question is, why would the Switch send a wake-up signal while in sleep mode?
Correct. I was previously under the misconception that the CEC functionality on the TV was faulty. Something I circumvent by using a receiver. Seems it is not in fact the case.
jts
...hate me...
Why would Samsung even fix something on their end that wouldn't need fixing? I don't see how can this be anything but an issue caused by non-compliant HDMI implementations from some TV manufacturers, as the problem doesn't manifest in all of them (and it should, if it were a Nintendo Switch issue).
Again, the Switch doesn't have any issues with my old ass Philips, and uses HDMI-CEC brilliantly.
Again, the Switch doesn't have any issues with my old ass Philips, and uses HDMI-CEC brilliantly.
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Deleted member 752119
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It's a problem with the auto switching on certain TV and hdmi auto switchers. Probably anything that just responds to any "chatter" on HDMI sources rather than CEC signals.
It is still Switch related as the other things I have plugged in my hdmi auto switcher don't do this (PS4 Pro, Wii U and Apple TV, Xbox 1 when I had one). For some reasons the Switch does something when asleep that generates enough power/sends whatever signal that causes it to switch inputs briefly.
But yes, it wouldn't happen with receivers or anything else that doesn't have auto input switching when devices turn on. But that still doesn't mean it isn't a Switch issue as devices shouldn't be causing input changes when in sleep mode (shouldn't be generating any HDMI chatter if waking slightly to check for updates or whatever).
That said, it's a minor issue and I just undock my Switch when using the PS4 or Apple TV so it's a minor nuisance at most. I think I read that you can now power off the switch when docked from controller, so I may just start doing that.