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http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/05/25/samsung-tvs-to-fix-nintendo-switch-hdmi-problem

An issue on Samsung TVs that saw them automatically switching HDMI channel to a Nintendo Switch console in sleep mode should be fixed soon.

Samsung's latest TVs include a feature that has them automatically switch to what they perceive to be a newly-active HDMI input, but docked Switch consoles (among other devices) appear to trigger that feature even when notionally turned off.

Speaking to The Verge (via Polygon), a spokesperson said: "Samsung has been following the comments on our Community Thread and we will be issuing a Firmware update early this summer that will address this behavior and provide the level of convenience that was intended."

I know quite a few users here have been having this issue based on comments. (I also have a less serious issue with our LG TV randomly pulling up a pop-up).

 

[Crash331]

Thank god. This has been super annoying.

 

[L~A]

The Verge article via Polygon via IGN. Wow.


Anyway, great news. Not impacted myself, but keep reading about people getting that issue, so nice it's getting fixed. I wonder if other TV makers are also going to fix that or not.

Edit: found original source > https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...tv-hdmi-switching-forums-complaints-statement

 

[Hamster Plugin]

Does this affect other TVs? If it does, it wouldn't be a TV issue but a Switch issue and it should be Nintendo's job to fix it.

 

[Kouriozan]

I have a Samsung TV and it never did that, but I'm glad it'll be fixed for those who had issues.

 

[Overtech]

That's awesome, but I hope LG does this, as well. I have to keep the HDMI unplugged when I'm not playing now.

 

[Cjdamon042]

Fantastic.

In the meantime I've been keeping my Switch out the dock unless I want to use it/charge it overnight to stop it from interrupting what I'm doing.

 

[terrible]

My HDMI switch automatically switches to the Switch if I forget to undock the Switch while I'm using another device. I feel like it's the Switch that is at fault here.

Spoiler

Switch

 

[KojiKnight]

Does this affect other TVs? If it does, it wouldn't be a TV issue but a Switch issue and it should be Nintendo's job to fix it.

Other devices besides the switch are causing it as well from the article.

 

[Schnozberry]

Samsung 2016 TV's apparently respond to any chatter on the HDMI connection, rather than the just the standard CEC commands. The firmware also doesn't turn off this function, even when CEC is disabled. It's annoying as hell. Not only does my Switch flip over my inputs seemingly at random when I forget to turn it off, my cable box will randomly power on my TV whenever it starts to record a show.

 

[Shiggy]

Perhaps Nintendo could release a patch to fix it on other TVs.

 

[J@hranimo]

Damn this is dope.

 

[Phoenixus]

Please follow suit LG, if the issue is fixable on your end.

 

[Jeffrey]

Nice. I basically have the switch off the dock when not in use. At least the sleep mode can last for a while unlike 3ds.

 

[kitsuneyo]

Off topic, but I was always surprised no TV manufacturer ever came out with a set with a built-in Wii sensor bar at the height of that craze. It would've been a great feature.

 

[cyba89]

Thank god!
Having to plug in the HDMI cable everytime pretty much killed the Switch concept of easily switching between Handheld and TV.

 

[beta_fuse]

I actually enjoyed having my tv not only turn on but also change input automatically when I turned on my Switch.

 

[NumberThree]

I actually enjoyed having my tv not only turn on but also change input automatically when I turned on my Switch.

That is still possible assuming Samsung TVs handle CEC properly. The issue they fixed is the TV seeing random activity from the Switch when it's in sleep mode and switching to that input.

 

[CassSept]

Ooooh, I always assumed that it was the fault of my Switch rather than TV. Neat that this will be changed.

 

[pswii60]

How about Nintendo releases a fix? The Switch shouldn't just be frequently and randomly activating its HDMI output for no reason.

It's annoying on my LG TV too, which comes up with a notification that the HDMI port is available every time Switch does its thing.

Ooooh, I always assumed that it was the fault of my Switch rather than TV. Neat that this will be changed.

It is a fault of the Switch - the Switch just randomly sleeps and wakes up its HDMI output constantly. But the Samsung TV has a more adverse side effect to it than others as it also changes to the input too.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

Where's the LG guy on this forum? Need to page LG to stop getting the Switch to get the HDMI channel prompt to randomly appear on screen whilst watching TV.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Glad Samsung is stepping up on this! I use CEC on my Switch with two different TV's (Sony/Hisense) and haven't had any issues with this feature. Definitely seems like the way that certain models handle that and I'd be curious to see what was actually causing the problem. If it was a Switch-specific issue I'd think the CEC would act up on every set.

 

[Fliesen]

Does this affect other TVs? If it does, it wouldn't be a TV issue but a Switch issue and it should be Nintendo's job to fix it.

The Switch seems to have a habit of intermittently 'waking' the HDMI connection, which causes these TVs to automatically switch to that HDMI input.

While this should also be fixed on the Switch's side, it's rather baffling that this feature can't (yet) be deactivated on these TVs.
Like, if i fiddle around with HDMI cables underneath my TV because i wanna do cable management, while my girlfriend's watching TV, i wouldn't want her to constantly have to switch back to the TV channel.

Glad Samsung is stepping up on this! I use CEC on my Switch with two different TV's (Sony/Hisense) and haven't had any issues with this feature. Definitely seems like the way that certain models handle that and I'd be curious to see what was actually causing the problem. If it was a Switch-specific issue I'd think the CEC would act up on every set.

nothing to do with CEC. That's a feature that you can decide to use or just deactivate. This is the TV being (a bit too) "smart" and automatically switching to the most recently 'connected / activated' HDMI device.
So, if you - say - plug in your laptop into a HDMI input on your TV, it would auto switch to that signal.

 

[frankie_baby]

How about Nintendo releases a fix? The Switch shouldn't just be frequently and randomly activating its HDMI output for no reason.

It's annoying on my LG TV too, which comes up with a notification that the HDMI port is available every time Switch does its thing.

It is a fault of the Switch - the Switch just randomly sleeps and wakes up its HDMI output constantly. But the Samsung TV has a more adverse side effect to it than others as it also changes to the input too.

Its not nintendos fault though, TVs that just use normal hdmi cec (including my samsung) work absolutely fine

 

[theechrisfox]

Where's the LG guy on this forum? Need to page LG to stop getting the Switch to get the HDMI channel prompt to randomly appear on screen whilst watching TV.

When this happens while watching TV its pretty annoying.

When this happens while fighting a Dark Souls bossman and you're one hit from either death or victory, its something else altogether.

 

[pswii60]

Glad Samsung is stepping up on this! I use CEC on my Switch with two different TV's (Sony/Hisense) and haven't had any issues with this feature. Definitely seems like the way that certain models handle that and I'd be curious to see what was actually causing the problem. If it was a Switch-specific issue I'd think the CEC would act up on every set.

It isn't CEC that's causing the issue, it's the HDMI output sleeping and waking up. Some TVs ignore this, whereas others are a little more 'intelligent' and react to it and tell you something new has been connected.

Its not nintendos fault though, TVs that just use normal hdmi cec (including my samsung) work absolutely fine

Normal HDMI CEC? As opposed to what other kind of CEC?

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Apparently Apple TVs do the same thing on Samsung TVs.

 

[Regiruler]

I've never actually experienced this issue, even with a Samsung tv. Maybe it's because of the audio box?

 

[Lucifon]

Why can't Nintendo just fix this, it's clear the issue is related to the Switch itself. Nothing else does this. LG TV's constantly pop up saying the Switch input is available, it's really irritating when we're trying to watch movies/shows.

 

[frankie_baby]

It isn't CEC that's causing the issue, it's the HDMI output sleeping and waking up. Some TVs ignore this, whereas others are a little more 'intelligent' and react to it and tell you something new has been connected.

Normal HDMI CEC? As opposed to what other kind of CEC?

Well theres obviously something not normal about how recent samsungs and LGs handle it as the vast majority of TVs work fine

 

[Diablohead]

Does this affect other TVs? If it does, it wouldn't be a TV issue but a Switch issue and it should be Nintendo's job to fix it.

My budget alba tv does it even with the switch set to no for it's hdmi wake feature, it feels random to me.

 

[frankie_baby]

Why can't Nintendo just fix this, it's clear the issue is related to the Switch itself. Nothing else does this. LG TV's constantly pop up saying the Switch input is available, it's really irritating when we're trying to watch movies/shows.

Read the post 2 posts above yours

 

[corn_fest]

This is nice, having to pull the Switch from the dock when the TV is on is a pain.
Fingers crossed for this FW update also saving HDR settings in game mode?

 

[RichiRamjag]

Its not nintendos fault though, TVs that just use normal hdmi cec (including my samsung) work absolutely fine

Yeah, I've got the Samsung HU9000 with the latest box. It'll auto switch when I turn the switch on, but it works fine otherwise. Never a random switch.

 

[Fliesen]

Well theres obviously something not normal about how recent samsungs and LGs handle it as the vast majority of TVs work fine

it has nothing to do with CEC.

These TVs are simply (patronizingly) "smart" about detecting when an HDMI input signal has just been connected / 'woken from sleep' and switches to that channel.

It's completely independent of HDMI CEC.

Imagine your Windows PC being set-up to automatically open Windows explorer when a new USB drive is being connected.
And then imagine the Switch intermittently waking the connection, even when in standby.
This update by Samsung is the equivalent to Microsoft allowing you to turn off the "automaticall open Windows Explorer when a new USB drive is connected" feature. - something that should have been there from the start, imho.

 

[TheJoRu]

The Switch does this on my ASUS monitor, it's not just Samsung. Maybe the individual manufacturers can fix this, but it's definitely a problem with the Switch.

 

[Gowans]

Should have been a switch patch but I'll take it, been super annoying

 

[Rumble19]

Its not nintendos fault though, TVs that just use normal hdmi cec (including my samsung) work absolutely fine

I have an hdmi switcher and a non Samsung TV and this happens to me too. I have to have my switch off the dock to use anything else on the hdmi switch.

 

[meltingparappa]

That's pretty wonderful, but because Nintendo cheapest out on Dolby and requires lpcm for surround sound, I guess it's stuck routing through my receiver regardless.

 

[Fliesen]

The Switch does this on my ASUS monitor, it's not just Samsung. Maybe the individual manufacturers can fix this, but it's definitely a problem with the Switch.

it's definitely a problem caused by the Switch, but TVs should allow you to deactivate the unwanted feature.

 

[murgo]

Thank the lord. The "switch" always happens at the worst possible time.

 

[Easy_D]

That's pretty wonderful, but because Nintendo cheapest out on Dolby and requires lpcm for surround sound, I guess it's stuck routing through my receiver regardless.

I thought people were excited when the PS3 came out with LPCM support lol. It's a negative now?

 

[Okami Haundo]

While this should also be fixed on the Switch's side, it's rather baffling that this feature can't (yet) be deactivated on these TVs.
Like, if i fiddle around with HDMI cables underneath my TV because i wanna do cable management, while my girlfriend's watching TV, i wouldn't want her to constantly have to switch back to the TV channel.

nothing to do with CEC. That's a feature that you can decide to use or just deactivate. This is the TV being (a bit too) "smart" and automatically switching to the most recently 'connected / activated' HDMI device.
So, if you - say - plug in your laptop into a HDMI input on your TV, it would auto switch to that signal.

It isn't CEC that's causing the issue, it's the HDMI output sleeping and waking up. Some TVs ignore this, whereas others are a little more 'intelligent' and react to it and tell you something new has been connected.

Normal HDMI CEC? As opposed to what other kind of CEC?

Ah dang, thanks for the info guys! I definitely thought this was a CEC issue. Definitely seems like an issue that can be addressed from either side then. As noted above, I find it kind of surprising that "smart" TV's don't give you the option to disable that feature. I'd be interested in learning whether there's a particular reason the Switch sends those signals too.

 

[mavericktopgun]

Samsung does want Nintendon't

 

[Crash331]

Apparently Apple TVs do the same thing on Samsung TVs.

I have the newest Apple TV and the Samsung Ks8000. I have NEVER had the Apple TV do this, and I've had the AppleTV since launch. The switch does it 2-3 times per hour.

 

[jts]

Never had any issues with my Philips TV.

Glad for Samsung owners that Samsung are fixing their shit though.

 

[forknknife]

I have a Samsung TV and it never did that, but I'm glad it'll be fixed for those who had issues.

Mine neither

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Never noticed the issue. My AVR just tells the Switch to shut the hell up unless you're spoken to.

 

[jack....]

My HDMI switch automatically switches to the Switch if I forget to undock the Switch while I'm using another device. I feel like it's the Switch that is at fault here.

Spoiler

Switch

It is. I have a bunch of HDMI stuff hooked up to my TV and the Switch is the only thing with this problem. The auto HDMI switching works great with everything else.

Good for Samsung for fixing it if Nintendo won't, though. Super annoying not to be able to leave my Switch docked.

 

[Berordn]

I'm more curious about why there's such inconsistency in the behavior across so many TVs. I'm sure the Switch is sending some sort of signal, but it hasn't affected a single TV I use so far, where I'll leave it docked and on standby for hours.