i'm trying to care but i just can't. how are these women in mexico being affected by these women making burritos in portland?
if anything charge them with loitering/trespassing
their burrito shop in Portland isn't stealing business from Mexico
There has to be more to this story right?
Because if it's as presented then that is absolutely insane. I would have to think there was more going on
They wouldnt tell us too much about technique, but we were peeking into the windows of every kitchen, totally fascinated by how easy they made it look,
Seems like they closed their business down by their own choice no?
Was wondering when this was gonna get here.
There was a passage in the original article (and the alt-weekly that ran it has gotten in a lot of recent trouble with the food & service industries for awhile now for their content) that featured the two women in question describing themselves as more or less shaking down the women in the small town they were visiting, and when they were denied more detailed recipes, they described peeking through the windows of these women as they made their tortillas to watch and take notes on what they were doing and how they were doing it.
That was the passage that had people essentially responding along the lines of "what the fuck you were peeping in these old women's fucking windows and you're bragging on it as a means to make your pop-up foodcart sound more authentic?"
From there the comments & facebooks started filling up with (mostly) peeved and miffed white men & women upset that people of color in the city thought that sort of behavior was suspect. (A senior editor at that alt-weekly was, at one point, all on his facebook page misunderstanding the term "drag" and trying to suggest that people were using it as a death threat by way of referencing Matthew Shepard)
Once the phrase "cultural appropriation" was broached and then dropped into the mix, it was more or less open season. The "fight" went from 0-to-"Yeah well my people invented the printing press so your being able to communicate in text is cultural appropriation" in a fuckin' hurry.
In the midst of all this, the women, who basically got hung out to dry by the writer/editor of the alt-weekly, decided this attention wasn't worth their fledgling pop-up (it wasn't even their own foodcart, they were just guesting at someone elses for a little while) and closed up shop.
A Fox News affiliate discovered an op-ed for the paper I work at, written by a black woman who went in hard on our very white city's weird attitudes about race, especially as it pertains to Portland's very well known food scene, and once Fox found it, the Blaze found it, and once the Blaze found it, shit was off to the fuckin' races.
The best piece I've seen on this whole thing since was actually a roundtable discussion at Uproxx.
It's very long, but also very well thought out.
This is where they fucked up
If I make tacos at home, is it cultural appropriation if I'm not Mexican but still Hispanic????
Going by what bobby Roberts said that doesn't seem to be the caseI'm not really seeing the difference when it comes to internet mobs. What's the point if not to force them to close?
Netflix needs to make this a miniseries...
would love to see them peeking into windows in Mexico
With progress like this maybe one day Portland will let brown people even live there!
We're talking about fucking tortillas. It's not a damn state secret.
I think its more straight up stealing recipes than cultural appropriation. The article makes it clear that they didnt obtain those recipes with consent.
We're talking about fucking tortillas. It's not a damn state secret.
This is where they fucked up
Maybe they fucked up the recipe that bad?I guarantee you that if they were literally spying through a kitchen window in a tiny Mexican village, somehow unnoticed, they were not watching the assembly of a BURRITO.
Like a closely guarded mole recipe would almost make sense?
That's everyone assuming the worst because they want to. Reading some of the Yelp reviews people are acting like they broke into some poor Mexican's taco shop like it was some spy movie and stole notes.
More broadly, that this entire thing blew up is a credit to the nature of modern journalism, where you take a single line and try and turn that into the "gotcha" arbiter of good and evil.
I hope that the proprietors learned their lesson about talking off the cuff. Even if it's a damn pop-up burrito place, you'll be destroyed if someone wants to.
Well that sounds like a shit sandwich and a half.
I would have closed up shop if this happened too, especially when the alt-right showed up.
Thanks Lore Expert!
That Portland Mercury article is laughable. I wouldn't doubt that they just stopped doing it because they got other jobs or something. It's not like they had a lease on a building and a bunch of employees and got railroaded out of town.
So I live in Portland. It's a bit of an overreaction, but the food business here is REALLY competitive, so this hardly surprises me. The plus side to this is there's really good food served here, like there's a lot of options and a lot of great places, both local eateries ad big chains that actually put in effort to compete with the food scene here.
The downside is stuff like this. There's some elitism to the food industry here, and people sometimes a bit too eager to smear out the competition. There's several burrito carts so I will bet this was insinuated to squash out competition. The food business is taken very seriously here in Portland, so this sort of news is hardly surprising to me. Sounds like the women backed out since they didn't want to deal with it though.
My letter is the one written in crayon and covered in cheerio dustOur office has been getting clogged with waaaaay out of state emails and voicemails from an amazing number of diet- and flat-out-racists not only blaming our op-ed for closing the place down (they had already closed before Jagger's op-ed was written, much less posted) but just very, very upset at... well, a lot of shit. At Portland for being Portland (I get that), at people being pissed at little things (which I also get, but that's sort of an inherently counterproductive complaint in this case, considering), but largely at the notion that two poor white women can't just make burritos in peace without mean hypersensitive minorities and their liberal enablers making life hard for them.
There's a ton of that. It usually gets signed off with "Well my culture invented X, so I guess now you can't eat it/do it."
I've seen some chicken & watermelon shit tossed Jagger's way, too.
Our office has been getting clogged with waaaaay out of state emails and voicemails from an amazing number of diet- and flat-out-racists not only blaming our op-ed for closing the place down (they had already closed before Jagger's op-ed was written, much less posted) but just very, very upset at... well, a lot of shit. At Portland for being Portland (I get that), at people being pissed at little things (which I also get, but that's sort of an inherently counterproductive complaint in this case, considering), but largely at the notion that two poor white women can't just make burritos in peace without mean hypersensitive minorities and their liberal enablers making life hard for them.
There's a ton of that. It usually gets signed off with "Well my culture invented X, so I guess now you can't eat it/do it."
I've seen some chicken & watermelon shit tossed Jagger's way, too.
We're talking about fucking tortillas. It's not a damn state secret.
Burrito. The most authentic and ancient of Mexican cuisine.
Our office has been getting clogged with waaaaay out of state emails and voicemails from an amazing number of diet- and flat-out-racists not only blaming our op-ed for closing the place down (they had already closed before Jagger's op-ed was written, much less posted) but just very, very upset at... well, a lot of shit. At Portland for being Portland (I get that), at people being pissed at little things (which I also get, but that's sort of an inherently counterproductive complaint in this case, considering), but largely at the notion that two poor white women can't just make burritos in peace without mean hypersensitive minorities and their liberal enablers making life hard for them.
There's a ton of that. It usually gets signed off with "Well my culture invented X, so I guess now you can't eat it/do it."
I've seen some chicken & watermelon shit tossed Jagger's way, too.
They stopped doing it because the Willy Week article made them sound like peeping toms thieving secrets from poor old women. They got hung out to dry by the writer/editor and when the backlash came quick, they said fuck it.
Holy fucking shitOur office has been getting clogged with waaaaay out of state emails and voicemails from an amazing number of diet- and flat-out-racists not only blaming our op-ed for closing the place down (they had already closed before Jagger's op-ed was written, much less posted) but just very, very upset at... well, a lot of shit. At Portland for being Portland (I get that), at people being pissed at little things (which I also get, but that's sort of an inherently counterproductive complaint in this case, considering), but largely at the notion that two poor white women can't just make burritos in peace without mean hypersensitive minorities and their liberal enablers making life hard for them.
There's a ton of that. It usually gets signed off with "Well my culture invented X, so I guess now you can't eat it/do it."
I've seen some chicken & watermelon shit tossed Jagger's way, too.
They stopped doing it because the Willy Week article made them sound like peeping toms thieving secrets from poor old women. They got hung out to dry by the writer/editor and when the backlash came quick, they said fuck it.
Goddam. I approve of removing comment sections for all press.
Our office has been getting clogged with waaaaay out of state emails and voicemails from an amazing number of diet- and flat-out-racists not only blaming our op-ed for closing the place down (they had already closed before Jagger's op-ed was written, much less posted) but just very, very upset at... well, a lot of shit. At Portland for being Portland (I get that), at people being pissed at little things (which I also get, but that's sort of an inherently counterproductive complaint in this case, considering), but largely at the notion that two poor white women can't just make burritos in peace without mean hypersensitive minorities and their liberal enablers making life hard for them.
There's a ton of that. It usually gets signed off with "Well my culture invented X, so I guess now you can't eat it/do it."
I've seen some chicken & watermelon shit tossed Jagger's way, too.
lol
I pity the person who has to read all that shit
Oh, and as someone who is not an American, what does the bolded mean?
Going by what bobby Roberts said that doesn't seem to be the case
They stopped doing it because the Willy Week article made them sound like peeping toms thieving secrets from poor old women. They got hung out to dry by the writer/editor and when the backlash came quick, they said fuck it.