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Former Mozilla CTO: "Chrome won."

Switched years ago due to FF locking up occasionally. Though I prefer firefox on android since it's the only browser I can seem to get adblock to work with.
 

Kneefoil

Member
I knew Chrome and Safari were doing better than Firefox, but I didn't know the gap to Chrome was that huge. I also didn't know that FF was barely doing any better than IE.

There are some things that I like better on Firefox, but I just can't use it anymore. It's simply way too much slower than Chrome.
 
I mess with all the browsers on occasion out of boredom, but always end up defaulting back to Chrome. (after years of being an Opera user, that is)
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
I like Safari the most in terms of design and usability but the extensions are really limited so I use Firefox. Not sure what I'll do when Firefox discontinues its current extension API thing. Might switch to one of the forks.

Chrome is a botnet so it's out of contention.
 

CheesecakeRecipe

Stormy Grey
Mozilla introduced one of the best features to Firefox with Tab Candy/Panorama/Tab Groups, which was an answer for my chronic tab usage, especially during heavy research days. Then, they discontinued it because they claimed it would be too much work to keep functional as they rewrote core parts of Firefox. A developer quickly created a decent replacement as a plugin, but that's being discontinued because Mozilla is reinventing the wheel again. Mozilla also had plugin certification issues that caused several developer friends to drop support for Firefox for a little while.

Mozzarella Flamedoggo was my browser of choice for a few years, but they only ever seem to get in their own way. Chrome has changed very little about itself to the average user - both a good and a bad thing - but that stability has paid off in the long run. Firefox for Android's jittery scrolling issues persisting for years, while they make changes elsewhere that nobody seemed to ask for, is another example. It's been 'fixed in the nightlies' for at least the past two years. I'll just stick with Brave.
 
It's sad when your browser of choice doesn't make it. Or rather, is such a distant second. I've used Firefox for years, ever since I found it installed on a school computer in 2005.
I just don't like using Chrome. Its overly simplified context menu and all custom UI just doesn't feel right.
 
I used to use FF for years before switching to Chrome.

Still have FF because I've occasionally had sites that didn't work in Chrome, for whatever reason, but the one thing I always noticed was how slow FF was compared to Chrome.
 

Occam

Member
I never really got why I should care about Google using my private data.

I just don't understand when that's going to start harming my everyday life and I've been using their services for like a decade.

Why aren't you using your real name and a photo of you here?
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Doesn't chrome still have trouble with animated GIFs? Firefox still for me.
 

Korey

Member
I do use Chrome at work, but there's something off about it I can't put my finger on.

Like it's too light or it animates different or something. Maybe it's the weird trapezoidal tabs.

To the point where I use Firefox at home instead.
 

_woLf

Member
I use Firefox still but I'm getting more and more irritated with it. It's a memory leaking piece of crap that has a ton of problems.

But damn, do I love my tabs being underneath my URL bar.
 
Chrome on Android, safari on iOS, edge on windows. Sorry Mozilla. You used to be pretty much the only option, but now with operating system integration the other three big boys are just better.
 

Vic

Please help me with my bad english
Reminds me that I haven't tried Chrome on my new, more performant laptop...
 
I swear, I never had memory leaks nor performance issues either in Firefox.

I use it because I like it better, but also:

Kind of a weak argument they're making. They start out by saying MS and Apple if they won the browser wars would simply replace chrome as the "default". With that said, everyone should use Firefox because if we become the default we wouldn't want "world domination".

If you're the default then you're kinda already on that whole "world domination" path.

Also kind of dumb considering how much Apple values privacy.

Pushing web standards and new features really took off when Chrome came into play. Now they weren't the first trying to create meaningful web standards and get people off this whole fractured browser nonsense, but Mozilla was going at their own pace. Chrome was the browser that forced them to be way more quick on it.

Lastly Mozilla waited too damn long to start retooling their browser
 

Schrade

Member
What's causing the drop in Firefox usage?

I think a lot of the reason is because Firefox/Mozilla have been making it look and act more and more like Chrome and saying "screw you" to the people who loved what Firefox was.

They've been taking away Extension functionality bit by bit and making it be more like Chrome's extensions.

They've been changing the UI to be more like Chrome.

I mean if they want to be Chrome then why should people use Firefox?

I switched to Pale Moon years ago. It is what Firefox used to be and I really truly hope it's not going to go the way of the DoDo like Cyberfox and Firefox are.
 
Opera Neon looks dope. I might check that out.

I switched from FF to Chrome in the late 00s (or 2010) and haven't looked back since. Never had any problems with it.
 

FyreWulff

Member
What's causing the drop in Firefox usage?

the vast majority of the internet is browsed by phone, desktops are now a minority.

Android ships with Chrome by default.

iOS ships with Safari as it's only browser engine. Both Chrome and Safari are based off the Webkit rendering engine.

So everyone designs for that rendering engine. Yeah, Google forked it into Blink or whatever, but most of the internet can be described as being browsed by Webkit. Even Opera switched to it. So only IE and Firefox are separate for known browsers.
 
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Wut at the curve fitting for chrome. It doesn't even have the right curvature.
 

D4Danger

Unconfirmed Member
I've always appreciated the Chrome team's ability to avoid UI bloat. It's admirable that they've never felt the need to add features just to appease other users. They make their thing and you can use it not.
 
I still use firefox for both desktop and mobile. It has better extensions imo and ublock origin is not available on chrome mobile without root.
 

Spinifex

Member
I still use firefox for both desktop and mobile. It has better extensions imo and ublock origin is not available on chrome mobile without root.

Yep. Still use Firefox because of mouse gestures, not to mention uBlock and others. You can do a gesture anywhere to do anything in Firefox, which you have never been able to do in Chrome, hence it will never be a viable product for me to use.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Been using FF for the lat 14 years or so.
Im not jumping ship until it hits the ocean floor.

Too many extensions are second nature, too.
 
I'm Firefox on the Desktop but Chrome+Samsung Browser for mobile.

I tried Firefox on mobile for a long time, but the scrolling was always worse and I never liked the font and I could never change it (letters were too tall and narrow).

I do get he occasional video issue in Firefox on the desktop and switching to Chrome would fix it, so I'm not surprised a lot of people have permanently switched, if even just for that.
 
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