I'm more shocked that they keep fucking up a franchise with the best monster design in the history of film. Like, making a movie with xenomorphs bad / perform poorly at the BO seems like it should be tough...
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I'm more shocked that they keep fucking up a franchise with the best monster design in the history of film. Like, making a movie with xenomorphs bad / perform poorly at the BO seems like it should be tough...
cartographer
Member
At least The Counselor had that one really.... memorable? scene.
Its weekend holds have been good, and its dailies have been slightly over/under AoU's (not like that was a good example of legs, but it did open ~$45M larger), so if it keeps it up I expect it to end around $385M.
Pretty much, I was ignoring it until I found out it was an Edgar Wright film.
I'm still surprised by 4's budget. I know that most say the cause is due to filming at sea and building ships being expensive, but the movie itself only had 2 ships, and one was in 2 scenes only (and the other one in like 3 maybe? can't remember). Made sense for the other ones which had plenty of ships and sea stuff, but not that one.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I liked the Martian!
BronsonLee
Member
Everyone did!
The true four quadrant hit that Alien wishes it could be!
The true four quadrant hit that Alien wishes it could be!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Recognizable brand, recognizable monster, tied to the best horror film ever made and one of the best action films ever made.
They're always going to go back to it. Sure, it might take 7-10 years between failures, but they will ALWAYS return to it.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Clearly, Matt Damon is Ridley Scott's secret weapon.
Get on that Jason Bourne vs. Alien vs. Predator script I sent you, Ridley!
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Have you seen the Halloween series? No? Because that has like, ten movies to it.
Also, all those public domain monster movies yet they leave the good stuff to Disney as if they 'own' those public domain fairy tails now. Why not just make your own Cinderella movie if you're that desperate for a hit?
more like Vangelis. Matt Damon + Vangelis in Forever War, directed by Ridley Scott? ...no?... Old Man's War then?
SkyMasterson
Member
Pumping out? They've made 8 films in the Aliens franchise, two of them being crossovers and one of them not even having Alien in the title.
I think Fox has been rather conservative with the Alien franchise.
^^^ Eh, the Halloween movies are different. They have such a low overhead that it doesn't hurt to keep trying. Whereas Alien films are pretty expensive to make.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I'd say
4's budget = full production issues.
5's = pre production, full production & post while just being an expensive movie in general.
4 was absolutely set up as a budget sequel.
1 physical ship had any screentime and that was a ship they had from 1-3(Black Pearl) made over.
filmed in Florida and Hawaii vs small Caribbean islands.
no crazy CG or ship battles.
smaller scale.
Something something franchise.
LordOfLore
Banned
Wait, PotC 5 took more time than KH3 and FFVIIR? Man.
What did he mean by this?
Member
Dont forget the bad trailer. And the box office flop cast.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
In those terms
KH2 released the same year in North America as POTC2 in 2006,
Birth By Sleep released in 2009, 2 years before POTC4.
POTC5 just released and KH3 release is still nowhere in in sight.
In other words I was 15 when I played KH2, im closing in on 30....
Hurry the hell up Square Enix.
broncobuster
Banned
I haven't seen Alien Covenant myself, but between the forum reaction and BO, I was surprised to see reviews were mostly positive.
BronsonLee
Member
The only film critic who cannot be bought is me
That's bullshit you liar, I can see Feige's name on THE GODDAMN CHECK
Gentleman Jack
Member
People have to want an opinion to pay for it.
BronsonLee
Member
Dash_Riprock
Member
Next one should just be called Aliens: The Apology.
3day Weekend estimates
1) Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $62.2M
2) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $19.9M - $333M total
3) Baywatch - $18.1M - $23M total
4) Alien: Covenant - $10.5M - $57M total
WW totals
Beauty and the Beast - $1233M
Fate of the Furious - $1224M
Guardians of the Galaxy - $783M
Pirates 5 - $271M
1) Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $62.2M
2) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $19.9M - $333M total
3) Baywatch - $18.1M - $23M total
4) Alien: Covenant - $10.5M - $57M total
WW totals
Beauty and the Beast - $1233M
Fate of the Furious - $1224M
Guardians of the Galaxy - $783M
Pirates 5 - $271M
Future Foundation
Member
What were we looking at for PotC's 3-day?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
71% drop. On a holiday weekend.
I'm really not sure Ridley Scott will get another shot at making an alien movie.
Holy crap! That's awful.
I did a Grinch smile reading this. It's what the film deserves.
Yep, Covenant didn't deserve better. I hope this is the last Alien movie we see for a while.
Jawmuncher
Member
I hope we still get one more Alien film so whatever the hell Ridley is trying to do can be closed up.
BronsonLee
Member
Was it really that bad? I've never seen any Alien movie so I can't be a good barometer for em
Future Foundation
Member
Check the post above you
Ha, my bad. I meant to say what was the projected number. What was it predicted to do?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I don't think it's THAT bad, but it is very nihilistic and alienating
(sorry)
Yes. It's really that bad, particularly for fans of the earlier films.
Also, see the first two.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Damn, only 46M OW for Pirates, but 275M globally.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
(low whistle)
I don't think it was really that bad. I think it was better than Prometheus. But being better than Alien 3 & Prometheus isn't exactly the bar this movie apparently needed to clear.
I also think the movie really does play better if you don't really give a fuck about the Alien series outside of "scary monster gonna kill ya." If you care even remotely about anything beyond that superficial level (and a lot of people will - and should) there will be disappointment.
It'll happen.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Um, but doesn't this 2nd week crater prove that many people DO care about more than just cheap scares?
The second weekend is playing like a horror franchise with a substantial built in fanbase, but little interest outside of said fanbase.
Edit: Look at the Friday thr 13th and Nightmare on Elmstreet remakes for other examples.
BronsonLee
Member
I'm going to assume 2017 is The Year of Everything Bobby Likes Underperforming
Lego Batman
Alien
I swear if you go after Atomic Blonde or Wonder Woman you're mine
Lego Batman
Alien
I swear if you go after Atomic Blonde or Wonder Woman you're mine
You can say it sunk like a Rock.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I'm not convinced. Of all the major studios studios, Fox seems the most conservative and a direct Covenant followup would probably make $40M domestic. It'd be the lowest grossing film of the series.
At the very least, I think it wwould be a very different film from what Scott has envisioned currently.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah those Alien numbers are really really poor. Wasn't Scott planning on this being a trilogy? Because I'm really not sure that 3rd film will happen unless it gets a very conservative budget