luca_29_bg
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Rime is cracked...
- Thread starter luca_29_bg
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Grim Patron
Member
A win for preservation so soon. Unprecedented.
ForkNetwork
Banned
Wow, one day after devs challenged all hackers.
Collateral22
Member
At least it will be taken out of the legit versions of the game now.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Off course it is you call them out of make it a challenge off course they will crack it in record time.
Isn't it UE4?
Gamezone
Gold Member
5 days for Resident Evil.
CecilRousso
Member
Good work hackers. If the devs stay true to their words, I can soon purchase a version of the game without Denuvo. Happy about that.
digitalrelic
Banned
Two posts in. That didn't take long.
Peroroncino
Member
Never openly challenge hackers, that should be the lesson for them today.
interesting note by the cracker
:-O :-O :-O"In Rime that ugly creature went out of control - how do you like three fucking hundreds of THOUSANDS calls to "triggers"
during initial game launch and savegame loading? Did you wonder why game loading times are so long - here is the answer
In previous games like Sgw3, Nier, Prey there were only about 1000 "triggers" called, so we have x300 here.
Next - 300,000 called "triggers" were just warmup for Denuvo, after 30 minutes of gameplay it became 2 fucking MILLIONS of
called "triggers". Protection now calls about 10-30 triggers every second during actual gameplay, slowing game down.
In previous games like Sgw3, Nier, Prey there were only about 1-2 "triggers" called every several minutes during gameplay, so do the math.
Don't forget that triggers is under VM and heavily obfuscated, which obviously does not improve perfomance"
Soren01
Member
UE4
LordRaptor
Member
This is like... worst case conspiracy theory scenario for titles using denuvo for legitimate customers
sixteen-bit
Member
wow that was quick
Blam
Member
Sounds like a fun time, but shit that's probably honestly Unity's fault then Denuvos. Also fuck that was fast seriously.
EDIT: Unreal Engine 4 not Unity.
Oh nice, performance patch so soon.
luca_29_bg
Member
it's an unreal engine 4 game.
zephervack
Member
holy crap, so that's why they issued the challenge
Absolutely disgusting if it actually affects performance, I need to see receipts tho.
Deathknell
Member
This is why denuvo is a fucking cancer.
Caffeine
Member
so it does impact game performance ? damn.
well the pirates are already confirming that it loads much faster with crack so who knows
Cant test myself (have fam-share access to it) but currently am on dial-up level internet connection
QuantumBro
Banned
Lol, so the pirates get the superior version for free.
Chobel
Member
Who manage these trigger calls? Is it the user (dev company)? Or is it managed entirely Denuvo?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's absolute horseshit. More PC releases need to embrace CDPR style open-ness in terms of communication, it helped them out a great deal.
Coriolanus
Banned
well, the dev had promised to release a drm-free version if the thing got cracked. If it comes out with a major performance upgrade.... yikes.
Yeah there's a new cracker that's been pumping them out like crazy, which is great, because after I buy my games I immediately install the crack for them because shit like this:
Hope Denuvo never recovers.
is ridiculous. Anybody who owns games on PC knows that DRM has consistently been screwing over paid customers for decades.
Hope Denuvo never recovers.
lol
LordRaptor
Member
I'd really like you to explain that.
calling anything 30 times a second is going to affect performance, even just an empty function (which presumably it isn't, or there'd be no need to do so)
cireza
Member
lol
it helped them because they were the only ones
if everyone makes this look like a big deal and uses it in PR campaigns, people won't care about this "feature" really fast
Mr. Phellps
Member
This is what happens when they say they'll release a DRM-free version once Denuvo is cracked.
You don't challenge crackers.
You don't challenge crackers.
Nyteshade517
Member
Didn't the devs say in that post about removing Denuvo if cracked that they didn't think Denuvo was the cause of any performance issues?
Makes them look really incompetent if they couldn't see any of those problems...or at worst they just knowingly lied about it
Makes them look really incompetent if they couldn't see any of those problems...or at worst they just knowingly lied about it
that wasn't a challenge, because that's what happens to every game with denuvo
Alpha Phoenix
Member
Not surprised.
Sounds more like something went wrong in their implementation, somewhere in their integration to the engine. I mean, you can hate the devs of Denuvo all you like but no engineer would design a system like that, that's clearly a bug. As the cracker himself confirms, other games have simply 2 checks per frame (or other interval) after the initial one (and during start-up of the game there is more of a "budget" since it would be hidden by loading times anyway).
That was about destroying SSDs. There were a few games now that implemented it in a stupid way, leading to an effective performance boost in the cracked version.
Robobandit
Member
I'd say in most games, it doesn't.. but this one seems like a particularly awful implementation. It did in the first game to use it.. Lords of the Fallen.. but as I recall even that was like a 5% performance hit.. this sounds worse..
Mr. Phellps
Member
Did any other game get an official DRM-free release once their Denuvo protection got cracked?
It wasn't a challenge per se, but I'm pretty sure crackers took it as that.
Blam
Member
Unity is widely known to be a pretty bad engine to use for either multi-plats or just large games, because of how poorly optimized the actual engine code is. If I remember correctly this is why Broforce has so many problems on the PS4.
It's really Unity themselves to blame if you see any games that crash on a console or run poorly on there. The interpreter & compiler for MonoScript is pretty bad so if you try and make a game multi-plat using it you'd be faced with some pretty bad problems down the line. Unity is really only good for indie games and small projects. Anything too big and you're gonna have a bad time.
As much as UE4 is hella bloated it's all optimized so it's going to run well, Unity at it's core is very much spaghetti code.
edit: There's many accounts of this happening with many different games, I mean shit even Yooka Laylee is Unity and it's also got it's problems.
CecilRousso
Member
How many games with Denuvo have patched it out, after being cracked, so far?
Doom is one.
Inside another.
Other then them?
Collateral22
Member
Knew I wasn't imagining things. DOOM used to take ages to load on Steam, when they removed Denuvo it loads much quicker and chugs less. Since then I just avoid Denuvo games like the plague.
adversarial
Member
The application here hardly applies for anything else protected by Denuvo, and that is even noted by the cracker who stated that for example Prey only calls 1-2 triggers every several minutes as opposed to 10-30 triggers every second.
doom, inside, syberia 3