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R.I.P Denuvo - Tekken 7 and Dishonored 2 cracked

Elven_Star

Member
I guess it's safe to say that Denuvo is done for good now, and good riddance! Tekken 7 went down even faster than Resident Evil 7 if I'm not mistaken. Denuvo is not anti-piracy but plain simple anti-consumer at this point.
 

Mephala

Member
I guess it's safe to say that Denuvo is done for good now, and good riddance!

I don't get it. Why is safe to say they are done? I read somewhere that the idea was to keep it protected for the first few weeks where most of the sales are. Even if 1/5 games are cracked within the first two weeks that still seems like an ok deal.
 

RoyalFool

Banned
Isn't this the half decent one which removes itself after 6 months anyway? I don't really want to see a revival of of piracy to be honest
 
Is that new record? Only danger if Denuvo go down is Microsoft can fool some suit into thinking UWP is great because otherwise evil pirates will steal all their profits.
 

RPGam3r

Member
Not only have this continued the streak of their games being busted early, but they are about to get sued AND in one case it has been proven their DRM worsens game preformance.

So only one case of a performance hit and a rumored lawsuit are enough to say they're done?
 

MUnited83

For you.
From what I've looked into in reddit, this seems to be a new method that works with every Denuvo game. Some sort of keygen that produces a valid license file for the game.
 

Corpsepyre

Banned
Just so you know, this isn't the same crack method as the other groups, atleast for Dishonoured 2. The EXE is unmodified, apparently, and there's a keygen in play. I don't know how any of that works, but it's interesting info. They didn't have to remove the triggers supposedly.
 

Peterthumpa

Member
I guess it's safe to say that Denuvo is done for good now, and good riddance! Tekken 7 went down even faster than Resident Evil 7 if I'm not mistaken. Denuvo is not anti-piracy but plain simple anti-consumer at this point.
I wonder which one of your family members Denuvo has killed.
 
Have I missed something? I've been out of the loop regarding Denuvo I guess. What's anti-consumer about them? I know a lot of games have been dropping Denuvo after six months or so, so I'm not real worried about it from a long term game preservation standpoint. What's wrong with anti-aircraft upfront?
 

Hektor

Member
Isn't this the half decent one which removes itself after 6 months anyway? I don't really want to see a revival of of piracy to be honest

Denuvo doesn't remove itself, tho it happened that doom and inside had it removed by the devs a few months after launch
 

Ragnaroz

Member
Isn't this the half decent one which removes itself after 6 months anyway? I don't really want to see a revival of of piracy to be honest
How exactly does piracy affect the paying consumer? Or the developers and publishers either? People who pirate games would in most cases never buy them anyway. Either because they can't, or simply don't want to.
 

RRockman

Banned
So only one case of a performance hit and a rumored lawsuit are enough to say they're done?

There's also the streak of games that are being broken within the launch window. If devs are serious about preventing piracy, would they Keep going with the one that is constantly broken too early?
 

Corpsepyre

Banned
Have I missed something? I've been out of the loop regarding Denuvo I guess. What's anti-consumer about them? I know a lot of games have been dropping Denuvo after six months or so, so I'm not real worried about it from a long term game preservation standpoint. What's wrong with anti-aircraft upfront?

Rime's developer dropped Denuvo in a week after it got cracked. :p
 

Kudo

Member
I liked Denuvo, it was unintrusive in my cases and supposedly no performance was lost with it? At least all I've seen is just speculation with no proofs, same with the "It'll kill your SSD" stuff.
It was good while it lasted, clearly Denuvo is not up to the task anymore and stronger DRM methods are needed.
 

AmyS

Member

Tekken 7 cracked in 4 days.

Denuvo can go fuck itself.

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LordRaptor

Member
Good. Maybe now developpers will stop wasting 100k of dollars (or maybe I'm wrong ?) for a dumb DRM like this.

I don't know how much licencing and implementation costs, but its pretty likely a non-trivial amount that would be better spent on making legitimate customers game better than trying to block illegitimate usage
 

MUnited83

For you.
Have I missed something? I've been out of the loop regarding Denuvo I guess. What's anti-consumer about them? I know a lot of games have been dropping Denuvo after six months or so, so I'm not real worried about it from a long term game preservation standpoint. What's wrong with anti-aircraft upfront?
The one single game to remove Denuvo without having been cracked first was Homefront: Revolution. Every other one only did so after getting cracked. Not very helpful for preservation if one doesn't ever get cracked.
 
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Deleted member 325805

Unconfirmed Member
But isn't Tekken 7 a good PC port?

Great reward that turned out to be for the work the developers put in.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't play online with a cracked version, so for a game like Tekken it doesn't really matter, if people pirate it and enjoy it they'll have to buy it to access the main part of the game.
 

RPGam3r

Member
There's also the streak of games that are being broken within the launch window. If devs are serious about preventing piracy, would they Keep going with the one that is constantly broken too early?

I mean you're kinda fooling only yourself to think that Denuvo goes down another company/solution won't step in to take its place bc the demand from publishers is there.
 
I don't know how much licencing and implementation costs, but its pretty likely a non-trivial amount that would be better spent on making legitimate customers game better than trying to block illegitimate usage



Even 5k would be better spent putting one developper for a month to fix some silly isues some games have. Namely Nier Automata.
 

Mifec

Member
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't play online with a cracked version, so for a game like Tekken it doesn't really matter, if people pirate it and enjoy it they'll have to buy it to access the main part of the game.

You can as of 18 mins ago. Only with other people using the cracked version though.

Just buy your fucking games you reprobates.

I think you need to get in the relaxi taxi my dude. No one here is advocating for piracy.
 
The one single game to remove Denuvo without having been cracked first was Homefront: Revolution. Every other one only did so after getting cracked. Not very helpful for preservation if one doesn't ever get cracked.

Ah. I assumed they weren't cracked. That makes sense.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
I know many kept saying that this wouldn't happen with Denuvo but I think people really underestimate those who like to undermine these kinds of efforts.
 
Rime's developer dropped Denuvo in a week after it got cracked. :p

Thats because they made a personal challenge and agreed to remove it if it was defeated, and apparently it was a real bad implementation apparently

From the NFO:
"In previous games like Sgw3, Nier, Prey there were only about 1000 “triggers” called, so we have x300 here. Next – 300,000 called “triggers” were just warmup for Denuvo, after 30 minutes of gameplay it became 2 f’ing MILLIONS of called “triggers”. Protection now calls about 10-30 triggers every second during actual gameplay, slowing game down. In previous games like Sgw3, Nier, Prey there were only about 1-2 “triggers” called every several minutes during gameplay, so do the math.”
 
Not sure why people are so mad at Denuvo?

The companies making games clearly want a DRM solution, which Denuvo provides. Sure, Denuvo can go away and then another however many will rise right behind it.

If the people making games want DRM on their games, Denuvo going out of business likely isn't going to stop that.
 

Sakura

Member
I don't get it. Why is safe to say they are done? I read somewhere that the idea was to keep it protected for the first few weeks where most of the sales are. Even if 1/5 games are cracked within the first two weeks that still seems like an ok deal.

Has it been proven that piracy significantly reduces game sales in a games first few weeks? Since Denuvo came out have PC game sales dramatically increased as a result?
 
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