AHA-Lambda
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PSY・S;240292493 said:Probably not.
can't see anything in that pic?
PSY・S;240292493 said:Probably not.
Well some shit heel who probably posts on 4chan also isn't the modern day picasso.
I just expanded on my original idea. No need to shit on me, just gave me opinion in the most respectable way, and considering other points of view as well.
.Bunch of very smart guys comparing critically acclaimed movies with one shitty person in the cast to a very personal game made by like two people were everyone involved has been publicly shitty and the game itself is focused on their shitty beliefs.
Flawless comparisons, I'm telling ya.
Jobs != Work.
Work != Jobs.
Jobs may go, but humans can still find work in the creative fields even if they have no chance to profit off those. Or even purposefully inefficient tasks like managing a community garden.
This is different from those examples. In those, the person were simply involved in the art or made art that was separate thematically from their actions. Here, the person is injecting their own beliefs and ideology into the game and building the world and story around those beliefs.Not going to discuss this much further, but think very carefully about that "I dont buy something if the creator ideology sucks".
Just think about this:
Picasso was communist and openly in favor of dictatorship-like governments. Guernica is one of the most impressive art creations of XX century.
Marlon Brando raped on camera an actress on Last Tango On Paris. He perform one the most incredible, if not the best of all times acting on God Father, as Vito Corleone.
Alfred Hitchcock commited multiple sexual assault. Its the creator of Psicosis, one of the most important, critically acclaimed movies of last century. A fundamental movie for any film maker.
I could make a 100 page list of artists that made horrible things or expressed things I could never ever be agree with.
At some point in life I learned that is better to separate artist creation from creation itself. I mean, should you skipped The God Father If you would know what Marlon Brando did?
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Picasso was communist and openly in favor of dictatorship-like governments.
Marlon Brando raped on camera an actress on Last Tango On Paris.
Alfred Hitchcock commited multiple sexual assault.
can't see anything in that pic?
Not going to discuss this much further, but think very carefully about that "I dont buy something if the creator ideology sucks".
Just think about this:
Picasso was communist and openly in favor of dictatorship-like governments. Guernica is one of the most impressive art creations of XX century.
Marlon Brando raped on camera an actress on Last Tango On Paris. He perform one the most incredible, if not the best of all times acting on God Father, as Vito Corleone.
Alfred Hitchcock commited multiple sexual assault. Its the creator of Psicosis, one of the most important, critically acclaimed movies of last century. A fundamental movie for any film maker.
I could make a 100 page list of artists that made horrible things or expressed things I could never ever be agree with.
At some point in life I learned that is better to separate artist creation from creation itself. I mean, should you skipped The God Father If you would know what Marlon Brando did?
Gaffers really think they are so holy lmao
(emphasis mine)We eventually forgot were living in the future, because the amazing tech became invisible to us. Think about how many concepts and pieces of tech from this photo you would have to explain to someone from 100 years ago:
A woman who makes a very good living making porn, who is not shunned because of it, lying in a machine designed to change the colour of her skin using precisely tuned energy emissions, showing off the highly refined silicone in her augmented breasts, taking and sharing a photo of herself to a social network for her fans, writing with hashtag & mentions, on a massively powerful handheld computer capable of taking pictures & sending them wirelessly to the whole world at the touch of a fingertips.
So the writer/producer (who posted here earlier) liked this tweet from a Gamergater account just a few hours ago:
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/874087165080121344
Now check out the linked article in that tweet, which by the way was written by another Gamergater Ian Miles Cheong (a prominent one):
LOL
Also, "game developer" in scare quotes, classy
Apparently having your life ruined and being constantly harassed for years is "manufactured drama".
This is all from the writer/producer of this game. And he "liked" this, along with other tweets complaining about SJWs, just a few hours ago.
But sure, they're totally reformed and distancing themselves from their GG past. Right?
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https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/874088860669550592
All distributors should have this on the product page.
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This is different from those examples. In those, the person were simply involved in the art or made art that was separate thematically from their actions. Here, the person is injecting their own beliefs and ideology into the game and building the world and story about those beliefs.
Not at all. I admit that I'm heavily flawed, in addition to being largely powerless. That's exactly why it's so important to me that when I am able to do something to actually do that something. Those chances don't come around that often (and when they do, we often don't know about them), so when a chance comes around that we're both aware of and actually able to do something about, that's when it's particularly critical that we speak up and do something. As if we don't raise our voices then, then when?Gaffers really think they are so holy lmao
I don't think Americans know anything about communism outside of the Soviet hyperbole tbh.One of those things is not like the others.... But really, like, holy shit, comparing sexual assault to being a communist is just so messed up.
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Fucking hell. Was this supposed to calm me?
From that article:
(emphasis mine)
Yes this is indeed a person who I trust when it comes depictions ofthe female, you know what make that the human experience.
However that blogpost did in fact provide some clarity. It is now beyond clear that they are asshats.
I don't think Americans know anything about communism outside of the Soviet hyperbole tbh.
One of those things is not like the others.... But really, like, holy shit, comparing sexual assault to being a communist is just so messed up.
Okay yeah, when the synopsis is written in a more straightforward language it's harder to give the benefit of the doubt that just because the Aesthetics are on point the story must be at least somewhat clever.
The writer, Madquills, says to read this Medium post from last year for some clarity, so I'll do so when I get home.
I mean, should you skipped The God Father If you would know what Marlon Brando did?
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Fucking hell. Was this supposed to calm me?
From that article:
(emphasis mine)
Yes this is indeed a person who I trust when it comes depictions ofthe female, you know what make that the human experience.
However that blogpost did in fact provide some clarity. It is now beyond clear that they are asshats.
Hell, I skip the Godfather now
I think my point was not clear. Obviously Picasso's creations were influeced by his ideology, thats why I mentioned the Guernica.
Heck! Even Jorge Luis Borges, the writer I took the name for my nickname, said horrible things like to be in favor of Argentinian dictatorship.
No need to hate me or something. This is just my opinon, I fully respect yours even if I dont coincide with it.
I'll be honest, I'm not too familiar with the work of Picasso. However, from skimming through the Wikipedia page about the Guernica, it seems it was a piece created in response to the bombing of the village Guernica in Spain by Nazi Germany and Italian fascists. I think there's a difference between supporting communist dictatorships and standing against nazi fascism. If the piece was about the former I'd have a difficult time loving a piece of art about it if I was an anti-communist, the latter seems like something most reasonable people could stand for.
Sure. But those beliefs and works don't tend to be outwardly racist, sexist, misogynistic, etc and explicitly designed around racist/sexist/misogynistic/etc ideas, plots, characters, and so on. And if they are, you can bet there would be as much criticism about those works as there is hereHonest question... dont you think most artists inject their own beliefs on their creations? Im sure most of them do that.
Disclaimer: If having this conversation is potentally making me bannable, just let me know and Ill stop right here I dont to lose access to the other 99% of videogame based threads on this forum ha
Sure. But those beliefs and works don't tend to be outwardly racist, sexist, misogynistic, etc and explicitly designed around racist/sexist/misogynistic/etc plots, characters, and so on. And if they are, you can bet there would as much criticism about those works as there is here
See the recent resurgence in criticism and spreading of awareness about the book, The Camp of the Saints
I'm glad this game is getting so much attention, it look fantastic.
Absolutely, I love Picasso's work, and Guernica is by far one of the most incredible creations ever made by a human being. My point there was that most artists represent their ideology on their creations.
"yes, women are just deserving of respect and justice as men, but have you considered the perspective that women are subhuman and don't deserve equal rights?" #makesyouthink #2deep4me
Looks like the tweet has since been deleted. Can anyone tell me what it said?Looks like it's even worse than that.
I was the one who first posted in the GB thread about it when i saw stuff on Twitter but it was just rumblings; this just keeps escalating beyond what I expected.
I like how you can see the narrative changing as the story develops.Agreed. It wouldn't have even been on my radar otherwise. Looks like a must buy.
This gamergate chump is totally like Picasso.
Thanks, Ill take a look at that book.
Im not into the gamergate thing, but obviously seeing reactions looks its a very hot subject on this forum, and probably the rest of videogame industry as well.
Hell, I skip the Godfather now
Sure. But those beliefs and works don't tend to be outwardly racist, sexist, misogynistic, etc and explicitly designed around racist/sexist/misogynistic/etc ideas, plots, characters, and so on. And if they are, you can bet there would be as much criticism about those works as there is here
See the recent resurgence in criticism and spreading of awareness about the book, The Camp of the Saints
So the writer/producer (who posted here earlier) liked this tweet from a Gamergater account just a few hours ago:
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/874087165080121344
Now check out the linked article in that tweet, which by the way was written by another Gamergater Ian Miles Cheong (a prominent one):
LOL
Also, "game developer" in scare quotes, classy
Apparently having your life ruined and being constantly harassed for years is "manufactured drama".
This is all from the writer/producer of this game. And he "liked" this, along with other tweets complaining about SJWs, just a few hours ago.
But sure, they're totally reformed and distancing themselves from their GG past. Right?
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Fucking hell. Was this supposed to calm me?
From that article:
(emphasis mine)
Yes this is indeed a person who I trust when it comes depictions ofthe female, you know what make that the human experience.
However that blogpost did in fact provide some clarity. It is now beyond clear that they are asshats.
"yes, women are just deserving of respect and justice as men, but have you considered the perspective that women are subhuman and don't deserve equal rights?" #makesyouthink #2deep4me
Can you honestly say you read that entire post, and the only thing you can come away is this relatively disingenuous reading of a single line?
Relative to how pornographers were treated 100 years ago (thrown in jail), they lead pretty decent lives now.
Not into the gamergate thing or don't know what gamergate is?
Yes I read all of the pseudo intellectual posturing which constituted that article.Can you honestly say you read that entire post, and the only thing you can come away is this relatively disingenuous reading of a single line?
Relative to how pornographers were treated 100 years ago (thrown in jail), they lead pretty decent lives now.
This is totally believable, and I'm serious when I say that, so I'm not trying to be glib or sarcastic here.I have heard and saw gamergate posts here, but never participate on them. I dont know what gamergate is at all.
PSY・S;240296457 said:There's a "Swamp Food" sign on the right. Seems to be a theme.
Or maybe 'Swamp" is referring to the "Deep State" Swamp lmao
The guys who have a history of going off on internet-boy screeds about the evil of feminism don't really get the benefit of the doubt around being creeps when their first thoughts on how the world has changed from the past revolve around pornography.