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First Look at Chris Evans as Captain America

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WrikaWrek

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Marvel started digging a big ass grave when they picked who they picked to do Thor, Captain America and The Avengers.

Thor looks corny as shit, and Captain America is gonna average shit because that's all Johnston knows.
 

Tobor

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Solo said:
I hope Sculli and everyone else hyped for this understand that its being directed by Joe Johnston and written by Joss Whedon. No amount of half decent looking production stills can gloss over that fact. This will suck, even worse than Thor, which at least has Portman and Branaugh going for it.
:lol Solo.

Joss Whedon script doctoring Cap is exactly why I'm excited for it.
 

Solo

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:/ Whatever does it for you, Tobor. There isn't much more of a red flag for me than Whedon.

Also, the reason why I said "half decent" production photos is that half of them look good, and half of them look straight out of GI Joe: Rise of the Cobra.
 

WrikaWrek

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Solo said:
:/ Whatever does it for you, Tobor. There isn't much more of a red flag for me than Whedon.

Also, the reason why I said "half decent" production photos is that half of them look good, and half of them look straight out of GI Joe: Rise of the Cobra.

Shit, you're right
 

Tobor

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Solo said:
:/ Whatever does it for you, Tobor. There isn't much more of a red flag for me than Whedon.

Also, the reason why I said "half decent" production photos is that half of them look good, and half of them look straight out of GI Joe: Rise of the Cobra.
Good writing does it for me. True.

You seem to have a hard on for hating Marvel Studios anyway. Had Robert Towne come back from the grave and written the script you'd still be complaining.
 

Solo

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Tobor said:
You seem to have a hard on for hating Marvel Studios anyway.

Only because they suck. Hated Iron Man, hated Hulk, enjoyed IM2 somewhat, and Thor and Cap look crappy. When they make something great, I'll like them.
 

Sotha Sil

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PhoncipleBone said:


"You think this letter on my head stands for FRANCE"? This line cracks me up every single time. I read it with Arnold's voice for some reason. He's got the ships, he's got the men, he's got the money too!
 

yacobod

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Raguel said:
:lol :lol I love how it's always steroids. Hugh Jackman is now ripped! Must be steroids. Ryan Renolds! Must be roids. Chris Evans! Damn those roids. God forbid people (who are paid to do this) get off their fat asses and get in shape. Hell, believe it or not, regular people can get in shape too! It's not hard. But damn though. Evans got huge for Cap. He's always been pretty ripped, but man....it' must be the roids.


its because its probably steroids, how many times do you see news headlines with various stars being caught overseas with growth hormones and other shit, sure maybe it's not "steroids", but i'm sure these guys are working with trainers and are using steroids, gh, or other performance enhancers, not that there is anything wrong with it

i mean look at stallone in the expendables, GH city, as well as probably most of the cast, guys need to take the rose colored glasses off, fuck you go into most commercial gyms around the country and there are bound to be a few juice heads in each gym, like hollywood actors would be opposed to it if a role calls for them to bulk up quickly for a role

SMH
 
Meteorain said:
Well hot damn, I got conned. Looks good either way. Thought they were going with his Ultimates design?

It's based on it.

captain-america-design-1.gif
 

madara

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Wait...there is people that dont like Joss Whedon? Can we put them on an island so they dont infect others with the crazy zombie disease please? :D
 
Raguel said:
:lol :lol I love how it's always steroids. Hugh Jackman is now ripped! Must be steroids. Ryan Renolds! Must be roids. Chris Evans! Damn those roids. God forbid people (who are paid to do this) get off their fat asses and get in shape. Hell, believe it or not, regular people can get in shape too! It's not hard. But damn though. Evans got huge for Cap. He's always been pretty ripped, but man....it' must be the roids.


well, Cap got huge by using steroids so it makes sense
 

KevinCow

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madara said:
Wait...there is people that dont like Joss Whedon? Can we put them on an island so they dont infect others with the crazy zombie disease please? :D

There seem to be a number of people on the internet who are offended by the very idea that some people might have a remotely positive opinion towards anything that Joss Whedon has worked on.
 
KevinCow said:
There seem to be a number of people on the internet who are offended by the very idea that some people might have a remotely positive opinion towards anything that Joss Whedon has worked on.
I am not offended by the people that have a positive opinion of Whedon. To each their own.

I am highly annoyed by those that treat Whedon like he is a god when he is not. If anything the overly worshipful fans of him make it even harder to enjoy things that he does. I like Whedon's characters and story ideas, but despise his dialogue.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
For every Whedon fanatic, there is one who has to proclaim every time he's involved with something "OMG ITS GOING TO BE SHIT! LOL WHEDON SUCKS!!!"

So, it's about even.
 

JdFoX187

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Tobor said:
I trust Joss Whedon. He rewrote the script, thank goodness.
True, this will be the first movie in years that he's tackled with a finalized script before the first day of shooting.
 
WanderingWind said:
For every Whedon fanatic, there is one who has to proclaim every time he's involved with something "OMG ITS GOING TO BE SHIT! LOL WHEDON SUCKS!!!"

So, it's about even.
The Whedon fanatics are more numerous and much more vocal about it. Just look at many of the responses in this thread for proof. The moderate Whedon fans are the rare birds though.

I will also say that I appreciate him as a director as well. All of his directing work has been solid.

JdFoX187 said:
True, this will be the first movie in years that he's tackled with a finalized script before the first day of shooting.
He isn't shooting this. Only did rewrites.
 
WanderingWind said:
Pro-Whedon: Me, Tobor and KevinCow
Anti- You, Solo

ITT: A slight majority to Pro-Whedon!

So, no.

You forgot Madara. 2 to 1 in favor of Whedonites.

I am being more moderate with my hate. While the pro Whedon are being VERY pro and derogatory towards anyone who thinks otherwise. Only now is the discussion getting somewhat normal.

Solo is on the blind hate train. I am on the "I like some of what he does, but hate his dialogue" train.
 

JdFoX187

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PhoncipleBone said:
He isn't shooting this. Only did rewrites.
I'm talking about Johnston. His last three movies before this, The Wolf Man, Hidalgo and Jurassic Park III had incomplete scripts when he started filming. Hell, Jurassic Park III didn't even have a fucking script when filming started.
 
JdFoX187 said:
I'm talking about Johnston. His last three movies before this, The Wolf Man, Hidalgo and Jurassic Park III had incomplete scripts when he started filming. Hell, Jurassic Park III didn't even have a fucking script when filming started.
Ah, cool. It was just that your comment was in response to a mention of Whedon. But you are correct, Johnston going in with a finished script will be good. He gets a lot of hate, but he did Rocketeer, so I cant hate him.
 

segarr

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I don't care if a celeb uses roids to get ripped for a role. They're not competing against someone in a sporting event or anything. It's their body and they know the risks.

As long as the studios aren't forcing the actors to take them, I'm all for it. Why be against it? Honor? Role-Models? Really, I hope no one looks to celebs for moral guidance these days; never should have.
 

Takuan

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segarr said:
I don't care if a celeb uses roids to get ripped for a role. They're not competing against someone in a sporting event or anything. It's their body and they know the risks.

As long as the studios aren't forcing the actors to take them, I'm all for it. Why be against it? Honor? Role-Models? Really, I hope no one looks to celebs for moral guidance these days; never should have.
Truth.
 
I dont think it was roids. He looks rather normal, just large. Looks like he just worked his ass off to get in that shape, and that is good.

The funny thing is that all of a sudden I just envisioned him saying Cap's dialogue in the Lucas Lee voice. :lol
 

Dead

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JdFoX187 said:
I'm talking about Johnston. His last three movies before this, The Wolf Man, Hidalgo and Jurassic Park III had incomplete scripts when he started filming. Hell, Jurassic Park III didn't even have a fucking script when filming started.
I don't think JP3 had a complete script even when they finished filming :lol
 
Solo said:
I hope Sculli and everyone else hyped for this understand that its being directed by Joe Johnston and written by Joss Whedon. No amount of half decent looking production stills can gloss over that fact. This will suck, even worse than Thor, which at least has Portman and Branaugh going for it.

What the fuck this is being scripted by Whedon? Godamn it.
 

Krowley

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Scullibundo said:
What the fuck this is being scripted by Whedon? Godamn it.

He is re-writing it so that it will lead into his his avengers movie, and so that the two movies will feel more related.

Also, I think this is going to be great. For one thing, Whedon is a genius IMO. I generally love all his stuff, and I'm also liking the art direction shown in some of these shots too. Great vibe.
 

duckroll

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Okay it's time for to weigh in on this since the gang's all here. Everything I have seen and heard about Captain America tells me it will be good. I like that when they talk about the movie, the guys making it sound like they know what they're doing. I look how the production shots look like a mix of MASH and Rocketeer. Sure some of the Hydra stuff is really campy, but I think that fits with the tone of what I want a WW2 Cap movie to look and feel like.

But having said that all. I am sorry but our friend Solo is absolutely right. Joe Johnston has made nothing but turds since Rocketeer. Turd after turd in tons of different genres and in movies with varying types of tone. It's indicative that it's not a streak of bad luck, but some sort of incompetence. That has me concerned about the movie because even the shittiest directors can talk up how they "get" the concept of a superhero adaptation. Mark Steven Johnson talked up Daredevil a TON, and showed a very intellectual understanding of a good vision of Daredevil on film. But he was completely incapable of delivering that vision. Talk is cheap, actions are what gets results.

As for Whedon, I don't see him as a pro or con factor. He's an average TV writer who is generally overhyped by his fanbase. I don't think him alone can ruin anything on the script level, at worst he delivers the bare minimum that the director wants (if he's only writing) or what the fans want (if he's also directing). That doesn't make him bad, just boring. But it also means that if the production needs a strong writer to step it up and steer the ship right, he's hardly the guy to do it.
 

shintoki

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Scullibundo said:
What the fuck this is being scripted by Whedon? Godamn it.
Well... This movie falls down the shit hole.

At least we are getting some fantastic pics of how hot Evans is. Yum!
 
Krowley said:
He is re-writing it so that it will lead into his his avengers movie, and so that the two movies will feel more related.

Also, I think this is going to be great. For one thing, Whedon is a genius IMO. I generally love all his stuff, and I'm also liking the art direction shown in some of these shots too. Great vibe.

That's even worse. They're directly compromising this stand-alone film for the sake of that The Avengers film which is completely going to fuck all their properties up at once? I swear that the Avengers film is going to undo all the good will Marvel earned in the early years. It already managed to compromise Iron Man 2 by rearing its ugly head in the middle of the film. I don't understand why they see playing their franchises off against one another and diluting the value of each property in one movie a smart investment.

But yeah, okay - hype completely dropped for Captain America. Maybe Green Lantern will be the only decent film to come out of all this, with a very slight possibility of X-Men making it.

Apologies Solo, I DIDN'T KNOW.
 

Solo

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duckroll said:
But having said that all. I am sorry but our friend Solo is absolutely right.

ducky,

I'm glad you believed in me

-Solo

Scullibundo said:
dropped for Captain America. Maybe Green Lantern will be the only decent film to come out of all this, with a very slight possibility of X-Men making it.

Apologies Solo, I DIDN'T KNOW.

Green Lantern has a great cast, Campbell will direct the shit out of the action sequences, and WB seems to be giving it space. X-Men has Vaughn and an amazing cast, so it too will be good.
 

duckroll

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Speaking of other Marvel movies, it's almost November now. When were we supposed to officially get the Thor trailer online again? Isn't it soon?
 
Solo said:
ducky,

I'm glad you believed in me

-Solo



Green Lantern has a great cast, Campbell will direct the shit out of the action sequences, and WB seems to be giving it space. X-Men has Vaughn and an amazing cast, so it too will be good.

Unlike a lot of others, Vaughn is a big part of the reason that I'm not hyped for X-Men. Not a fan at all. The only film I like of his is Layer Cake. No, Stardust didn't do it for me, I'm sorry. Add FOX to the mix and you've got a real challenge on your hands. Like I've said before, only Singer's involvement (which will probably be limited) gives me hope.
 

Socreges

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So Cap America originates in the 1940s? But he's supposed to join Iron Man for the Avengers in the 21st century? How does that work?

I don't read comic books, so please try and avoid nerdy condescension. :)
 

duckroll

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Out of the 4 superhero films in 2011, I have to say Green Lantern is my #1 pick. Beyond that I think it's really a toss up and it's way too early to call. I want Thor to be really good, but the early footage wasn't encouraging at all. I want Captain America to be good, but... whatever I said above. I don't even know enough about X-Men First Class to comment much on it, but it's a Fox movie in the X-Men franchise, coming after X3 and Wolverine. Can't say that instills any confidence in me.

Socreges said:
So Cap America originates in the 1940s? But he's supposed to join Iron Man for the Avengers in the 21st century? How does that work?

I don't read comic books, so please try and avoid nerdy condescension. :)

Towards the end of WW2 after a major mission he falls into the ocean and is frozen in ice. The modern day SHIELD finds his body eventually and they defrost him to find that he's still alive. He then has to adjust to modern day life, and is a founding member of the Avengers.
 
Socreges said:
So Cap America originates in the 1940s? But he's supposed to join Iron Man for the Avengers in the 21st century? How does that work?

I don't read comic books, so please try and avoid nerdy condescension. :)

Was frozen, got thawed and now fights in the 21st century. I don't know exactly which story they'll use. The one I remember is that he got frozen in a glacier and nick fury and some shield agents found and unfroze him.
 
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