Romars202129
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I'd be happy with just a ps4 port of Ultimax for now. Certainly make the wait for this game more bearable.
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Dragon Ball FighterZ - Characters, Specials, and Stages Discussion
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I'd be happy with just a ps4 port of Ultimax for now. Certainly make the wait for this game more bearable.
A PS4 port with the latest adjustments would be magical.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnFDFSzvns
New vid from Max, he's talking over 2 games he played with another person that knew what they were doing. It goes without saying but this game is fucking hype.
New vid from Max, he's talking over 2 games he played with another person that knew what they were doing. It goes without saying but this game is fucking hype.
So you got pushblocks (which actually seem pretty useful as they push the opponent very far) and snapbacks to try and set up an incoming mixup. I'm fine with spending resources to set up mixup scenarios.
Romars202129
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I'm halfway to buying a new ps3. I freaking loved that game.
It's awesome how far we've come in 25 years from Dragon Ball Z: Super Butōden.
On-topic, although the chances of a joke character are impossible, my "weird pick" would be either Arale or Tao Pai Pai. There's so much that could be done with Mercenary Tao to give him a fun fighting style, and the idea of an intro with him crashing onto the battlefield is great.
On-topic, although the chances of a joke character are impossible, my "weird pick" would be either Arale or Tao Pai Pai. There's so much that could be done with Mercenary Tao to give him a fun fighting style, and the idea of an intro with him crashing onto the battlefield is great.
Mr. Smiley
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Will be interesting to see how the meta evolves around Pursuit.
It's awesome how far we've come in 25 years from Dragon Ball Z: Super Butōden.
The fact that Arc is even paying homage to the Butoden series, itself (despite this game not bearing the Butoden moniker proper), makes me so happy. I'm glad someone else was able to pick out the references to some past attacks in that series.
I'm fully expecting Piccolo to have the likes of his dive kick + multiple kicks to the face from SB2 and Hyper Dimension, if this is any indicator.
Okay, so I just finished the first tournament in Super. What are the odds that Hit will be included in the launch roster? Does he show up more over the next 60 episodes or is he a minor character?
I need my team to be Majin Vegeta (give me this skin please), Hit and Krillin*
*I will take Mr. Popo, Mr. Satan or Dende as a substitute for Krillin.
I need my team to be Majin Vegeta (give me this skin please), Hit and Krillin*
*I will take Mr. Popo, Mr. Satan or Dende as a substitute for Krillin.
Hit shows up again in a 2 episode filler series after the next arc which I believe is within 60 episodes
No Tao is very short lived to be considered a villian. Your answer is this guy:Tao Pai Pai is definitely on my wish list.
First great villain in Dragon Ball imo
But Tao Pai Pai is freaking ruthless killing Bora so nonchalantly. He was the first to make Goku really angry, and the first opponent he couldn't defeat at first encounter.
cireza
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Looking at the current character select screen, and the size of the boxes for the 6 available characters, it looks like they can fit only 20 characters. (8 on the top line, 6 on both the middle and bottom lines).
I hope that some characters I really like from DBZ make it into the final roster...
I hope that some characters I really like from DBZ make it into the final roster...
lucebuce12
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Some cute Dragon Ball x Guilty Gear fanart. https://twitter.com/bocodamondo/status/875786289399951364
That dragon rush thing seems to be very annoying especially since you can abuse it forever and it seems to be safe on block, hope they tweak it and make it less safe or stamina based, would get annoying after a while if all you do is rush at your opponent with the press of a button and attempt to open him up...
You can parry it.
PdotMichael
Banned
No Tao is very short lived to be considered a villian. Your answer is this guy:
But Tao Pai Pai is freaking ruthless killing Bora so nonchalantly. He was the first to make Goku really angry, and the first opponent he couldn't defeat at first encounter.
You forgot Yamcha.
The greatest fighter in Dragon Ball!
Eh, from the videos it seems that even with the parry you just push them back MVC3 style and you don't get a free punish or something. Thing is a mechanic like that will be hell online when the lag might come into play and they start mashing the dragonrush at you.
It's a gap closer/chaser/combo starter/beam punish tool, way to powerful imho.
Out_Of_Ammo
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Seems you can easily punish it with a super if they keep spamming it, like Max did in that video with cell's barrier move.
NipplesAndToes23
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So I want to ask something I've been wondering for over a decade, why does Tien have three eyes?
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Same reason Oolong is a pig -- they're based on characters from the original "Journey to the West".
TeamLeftMatch
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I don't think even Toriyama knows. It night just be similar to the spiritual third eye.
Speaking of this game, I had a dream that Pikkon was a character reveal where he uses his hyper tornado. Now I want him in this game.
voodoopanda
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NeonZ
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Only the first arc is directly based on Journey to the West. There's a character with three eyes in Journey to the West, but I'm not sure if Tenshinhan would really be based on him, since Tenshinhan doesn't come in that first arc and otherwise they have basically no similarities.
Huh? Cho Hakkai/Zhu Bajie is Oolong. Woman lusting humanoid pig. He's actually the closest adaptation (aside from not being a fighter), considering how the girl kidnapping incident that introduces him also is his introduction in Journey to the West.
Riposte
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I'm just going to do this once to get it out of my system. Ideal/dream roster, with a clear focus on Super (particularly Universe 6) and cutting the fat when it comes with Z characters (only stuff you build a lot of fights around for single player). 30 characters, which may be asking too much, but is basically what I would hope for in a team fighter and may come to expect if you want to throw in DLC and/or a revision (more with a full on sequel).
Saiyans:
Goku
Gohan (Young)
Gohan (Adult)
Vegeta
Trunks (Future/Goku Black)
Gotenks*
Vegito
Other Heroes/Allies:
Krillin
Piccolo
Tien Shinhan*
Master Roshi OR Jaco OR Hercule*
Villains (and Reformed Villains):
Frieza
Android 17*
Android 18
Cell
Dabura*
Buu
Super Buu OR Kid Buu
Super:
Beerus
Tagoma(Ginyu) OR Champa OR Whis*
Zamasu*
Goku Black
Fused Zamasu
Universe 6:
Hit
Frost
Auta Magetta
Botamo*
Cabba
Caulifla
Kale
*-Slightly unsure about these, would be first to cut or swapped out. (Caulifa and Kale are a bit underdeveloped, but stand out character design wise, like a lot of Universe 6).
I don't see much value in filler or movie characters (Janemba would be fun though). I would love DB characters (Kid Goku, Tao, Arale, maybe even a shared Grandpa Gohan/Jackie Chun spot), but my bias is titled towards a focus on Super to make the game feel fresh. There have been so many games covering up to the Buu saga, even just considering 2D fighters. A lot of my logic is based around the admittedly unfounded idea that there is going to be a lot of focus on a single-player campaign, one that I'm, again, hoping shows favoritism toward Super.
There's four (and a half?) arcs they could go through: Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, Universe 6, and Goku Black (plus some more Universe 6 stuff with Hit and the other Saiyans, setting up Tournament of Power for a sequel). Fused Zamasu would make a great final boss, if not a Hit rematch or Goku vs Gohan. Someone like Tagoma may seem pretty forgettable compared to all sorts of characters you could pull from the series or movies, but he ends up playing a big role in Resurrection (anime), so you can get a bunch of single-player fights (including Frieza's training) out of him in an single-player version of that arc (plus a power-up where frog-Ginyu steals his body would be pretty fun); on the other hand, he isn't important at all (compared to Champa or Whis) and may not be the best possible choice in terms of the multiplayer (I lean on the idea that ASW are talented enough to strike a balance though). Obviously, if they can't make Tagoma a fun character, then dump him and just focus on what would make a great game.
So then, the Z material could be used as flashbacks to establish the characters who are relevant in the Super era (the ten participating in the ToP, more or less) in the form of highly abridged versions of those stories. For example, this is why I would prefer Super Buu over Kid Buu, because the former helps establish Gotenks, Adult Gohan, and Vegito, while the characters who fight Kid Buu are not lacking for screen time (fat Buu as an enemy). Saiyan/Namek would be fairly anemic, but I think with this set of characters (3 or so villains for Cell/Trunks's future and Buu), your bases would be covered (adding characters like Nappa, Android 19-20, etc. would feel like a bit of a waste even if they would be needed for a complete story).
While giving it some thought, I realized that a 3v3 fighter is a terrible format for a Dragon Ball campaign. Most fights are 1v1 and with plenty of 2v1, but it's not often for it to go beyond that. I have to imagine the single player will not make the most out of the 3v3 mechanics without either a lot of abstraction or divergence from the plot (e.g., you fight multiple Cells at once or Frieza fights along with him, acknowledged or otherwise). This wouldn't really be a bad thing I think.
Alright, with that, I'm retiring from dragon ball videogame fanfiction. Won't really be upset with who gets in as long as the game is fun. Fuck Broly if he gets in before Kale though.
EDIT: As for stages, I just want one that has a bunch of Frieza's troops in the background (Resurrection F) and any deflected shots blow them out of the sky.
Saiyans:
Goku
Gohan (Young)
Gohan (Adult)
Vegeta
Trunks (Future/Goku Black)
Gotenks*
Vegito
Other Heroes/Allies:
Krillin
Piccolo
Tien Shinhan*
Master Roshi OR Jaco OR Hercule*
Villains (and Reformed Villains):
Frieza
Android 17*
Android 18
Cell
Dabura*
Buu
Super Buu OR Kid Buu
Super:
Beerus
Tagoma(Ginyu) OR Champa OR Whis*
Zamasu*
Goku Black
Fused Zamasu
Universe 6:
Hit
Frost
Auta Magetta
Botamo*
Cabba
Caulifla
Kale
*-Slightly unsure about these, would be first to cut or swapped out. (Caulifa and Kale are a bit underdeveloped, but stand out character design wise, like a lot of Universe 6).
I don't see much value in filler or movie characters (Janemba would be fun though). I would love DB characters (Kid Goku, Tao, Arale, maybe even a shared Grandpa Gohan/Jackie Chun spot), but my bias is titled towards a focus on Super to make the game feel fresh. There have been so many games covering up to the Buu saga, even just considering 2D fighters. A lot of my logic is based around the admittedly unfounded idea that there is going to be a lot of focus on a single-player campaign, one that I'm, again, hoping shows favoritism toward Super.
There's four (and a half?) arcs they could go through: Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, Universe 6, and Goku Black (plus some more Universe 6 stuff with Hit and the other Saiyans, setting up Tournament of Power for a sequel). Fused Zamasu would make a great final boss, if not a Hit rematch or Goku vs Gohan. Someone like Tagoma may seem pretty forgettable compared to all sorts of characters you could pull from the series or movies, but he ends up playing a big role in Resurrection (anime), so you can get a bunch of single-player fights (including Frieza's training) out of him in an single-player version of that arc (plus a power-up where frog-Ginyu steals his body would be pretty fun); on the other hand, he isn't important at all (compared to Champa or Whis) and may not be the best possible choice in terms of the multiplayer (I lean on the idea that ASW are talented enough to strike a balance though). Obviously, if they can't make Tagoma a fun character, then dump him and just focus on what would make a great game.
So then, the Z material could be used as flashbacks to establish the characters who are relevant in the Super era (the ten participating in the ToP, more or less) in the form of highly abridged versions of those stories. For example, this is why I would prefer Super Buu over Kid Buu, because the former helps establish Gotenks, Adult Gohan, and Vegito, while the characters who fight Kid Buu are not lacking for screen time (fat Buu as an enemy). Saiyan/Namek would be fairly anemic, but I think with this set of characters (3 or so villains for Cell/Trunks's future and Buu), your bases would be covered (adding characters like Nappa, Android 19-20, etc. would feel like a bit of a waste even if they would be needed for a complete story).
While giving it some thought, I realized that a 3v3 fighter is a terrible format for a Dragon Ball campaign. Most fights are 1v1 and with plenty of 2v1, but it's not often for it to go beyond that. I have to imagine the single player will not make the most out of the 3v3 mechanics without either a lot of abstraction or divergence from the plot (e.g., you fight multiple Cells at once or Frieza fights along with him, acknowledged or otherwise). This wouldn't really be a bad thing I think.
Alright, with that, I'm retiring from dragon ball videogame fanfiction. Won't really be upset with who gets in as long as the game is fun. Fuck Broly if he gets in before Kale though.
EDIT: As for stages, I just want one that has a bunch of Frieza's troops in the background (Resurrection F) and any deflected shots blow them out of the sky.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
U6 saiyans except for cauliflower are Great value saiyans
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
All I really want is super buu. He's always been my favorite and I need to play as him to enjoy this game.
SpiceMelange
Member
It's not a parry it's a pushblock from what Max said on stream, and it's still safe pushblocked, he just gambled on the opponent still mashing after pursuit to counterhit.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
With a Buutenks/Buuhan transformation
If they were going to put in a second Buu in the game my money would be Super Buu only because he could potentially absorb his team mates which would be an interesting mechanic.
SpiceMelange
Member
That'd be a shitload of art budget to blow on a single mechanic
Romars202129
Member
I hope they make a n Alternate universe Battle ChiChi for this game, and make her the coolest hero ever.
Guys, I would love additions like Tao Pai Pai, Chi Chi and King Piccolo just as much as you guys but this is all pre-Z era. So I wouldn't get my hopes up for those.
I'd be surprised if there's nothing from Super in the game though, so that alone would break that 'wall', but still.
That said, I love the DB hype here. :3
I'd be surprised if there's nothing from Super in the game though, so that alone would break that 'wall', but still.
That said, I love the DB hype here. :3
Neko Mimi Mode
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Guys I don't think Kale is getting in over Broly.
In fact, I don't think they'll pay much attention to Super at all.
In fact, I don't think they'll pay much attention to Super at all.
My bad, you are right. I mistook him with the "kappa" one, which is Gojyo, which could be attributed then easily to Yamcha
The Omega Man
Member
I need this demo in my life please Sheng-long release this demo to us mortals.
NeonZ
Member
The one stage I really want is already in the game (space with Earth in the background).
People started speculating regarding more out there characters due to the comment about how eras of DB would be represented in the line up.
People started speculating regarding more out there characters due to the comment about how eras of DB would be represented in the line up.
Romars202129
Member
Agree, but not on Chichi or super. This is asw guys, you can expect them to go the extra mile to get in female characters. Also, didn't the producer say Caulifla was her favorite character?
lucebuce12
Member
Normally I don't care about stages that much either. But there are two things to keep in mind.
One, Arc Sys makes some A-M-A-Z-I-N-G stages.
Two, that moves actually have an effect on the stages you're in such as parry fireballs leads to stuff in the background getting destroyed. Doesn't affect gameplay but makes a big difference for spectators.
I'm hoping for Janemba and his stage.
and of course Gogeta
Its funny I was going to say I'd like a character like Janemba just because he's got a pretty distinct look with the almost demonic silhouette
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
That plus his powerset and method of movement would look pretty cool; breaking down into little cubes and using punching and beam spamming through "tears" of reality would be really unique.
I'm hoping Janemba and Broly definitely get in.
Diprosalic
Banned
I just need Beerus.
No Beerus no sale.
No Beerus no sale.