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June Wrasslin' |OT| Break Out Naan And Do The Needful, It's Time For MaharaJEEEEEZUSS

miserable

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Edit: reading through Wreddit and the amount "yeah but the heet " comments are disturbing

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imBask

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People have this werid love for "Heat"

hummmmmmm look i've watched a couple of documentary on wrestling so I know how the business works, heat is very important

I also listen to the Vince Russo Brand podcast so like I know what i'm talking about here
 
WWE deserves to get shit on for hyping up the women's match as historic, but 3/5 of those women are terrible, so I can't seriously expect this match to have ever been remembered down the line. It wasn't any good before the ending either and I can't expect Becky and Charlotte to do everything

I still expect we'll see a proper ladder match down the line that will be remembered historically for it being a good match.

Yeah there is a lot of obvious imagery of Ellseworth grabbing the case with incredible ease and handing it to Carmella in the first historic women's ladder match, and it wrongly puts the heat on him more so her, and there are a lot of viewers who truly believed this to be a historic match... I just wasn't buying that myself so I wasn't too focused on the consequences of the result.

I can see how lots of young viewers and casuals expected something truly historic, but I couldn't ever buy into this being anything other than a corporate marketing event. So WWE deserves the backlash for that, but it felt like very obvious heel booking to make Carmella an undeserving contender this way. I doubt Vince thinks about the viewers who expect a historic moment as he doesn't consider that fanbase's reaction and true disappointment

James should have just held the ladder or just pushed Becky off
 
WWE deserves to get shit on for hyping up the women's match as historic, but 3/5 of those women are terrible, so I can't seriously expect this match to have ever been remembered down the line. It wasn't any good before the ending either and I can't expect Becky and Charlotte to do everything

I still expect we'll see a proper ladder match down the line that will be remembered historically for it being a good match.

Yeah there is a lot of obvious imagery of Ellseworth grabbing the case with incredible ease and handing it to Carmella in the first historic women's ladder match, and it wrongly puts the heat on him more so her, and there are a lot of viewers who truly believed this to be a historic match... I just wasn't buying that myself so I wasn't too focused on the consequences of the result.

I can see how lots of young viewers and casuals expected something truly historic, but I couldn't ever buy into this being anything other than a corporate marketing event. So WWE deserves the backlash for that, but it felt like very obvious heel booking to make Carmella an undeserving contender this way.

James should have just held the ladder or just pushed Becky off

3/5s?

Nattie, Becky and Charlotte are all great.

Carmella is decent

Only Tamina is anywhere close to terrible


And again the heat isn't on Elsworth either. It's on the company.
 
Enzo's been wrestling longer since he started training in 2012. Lana's training began in 2016 I'm pretty sure.

Lana's selling was very bad too. Like she thought if she just kept screaming, people would believe she's in pain.

So much of the woman's roster does this, including NXT. Carmella is the worst offender

I hope Ellsworth cashes in and wins

Fuck it, shit on all the optimists defending this like it'll end good to justify the decision. Go all the way

Considering fans were cheering for Ellsworth they'd eat this up no doubt.
 
Kawato has a tag match with Tana against Naito and Takahashi for Kizuna d1.

That's one hell of a learning tree.

And then he's got a singles match with Dick Togo a few weeks later on the Lion's Gate show - some real high profile matches for him in a short space of time and easily the two biggest matches of his career to date. I think they've got high hopes for Kawato now, he's developed into a real spitfire of a young lion.
 
3/5s?

Nattie, Becky and Charlotte are all great.

Carmella is decent

Only Tamina is anywhere close to terrible


And again the heat isn't on Elsworth either. It's on the company.

Pretty sure Nattie sucks.

Carmella is decent and has potential, or at least the presence down like Jinder.

The fans are desperate for women to be taken seriously but this was never the match for that outside of being a first ever.

Those historic moments should come naturally and through good booking.

We really need to see the right women get the focus. Naomi is a hard worker. Becky and Charlotte are A+

Lana is trash. Tamina sucks. Nattie is way worse than what she should be.

Emma is nowhere, Alicia Fox deserves more credit, Nia is too early, Bayley is a mess, Sasha can go, Dana can improve

The roster is too small for this split and we see limited feuds because of it

The heat's on the company but Ellseworth is the one who will feel it on TV. Which will be bad if they cant at least let Carmella get the attention
 
Honestly if fans are really upset over the woman's MITB they should just cancel their subs and not re-sub on free trials. It's the only thing WWE will pay attention to.
 
Pretty sure Nattie sucks.

Carmella is decent and has potential, or at least the presence down like Jinder.

The fans are desperate for women to be taken seriously but this was never the match for that outside of being a first ever.

Those historic moments should come naturally and through good booking.

We really need to see the right women get the focus. Naomi is a hard worker. Becky and Charlotte are A+

Lana is trash. Tamina sucks. Nattie is way worse than what she should be.

Emma is nowhere, Alicia Fox deserves more credit, Nia is too early, Bayley is a mess, Sasha can go, Dana can improve

The roster is too small for this split and we see limited feuds because of it

The heat's on the company but Ellseworth is the one who will feel it on TV. Which will be bad if they cant at least let Carmella get the attention

Nattie doesn't suck like at all. Not in the ring anyway.

And disagree that this wasn't the right match. It was great and only getting better before that farce of an ending.
 

Sephzilla

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Nattie is a bit overrated in my opinion. She's someone who I feel like is good but could be great if she just tried a little harder.
 

Kaladin

Member
I'll be honest, I ain't mad at Jinder or Corbin getting the wins last night. Jinder is making a fan out of me. He has the character work down, he just has to get better in the ring. Corbin was a good pick for the MITB too. While you wanted AJ or Nakamura to win, Corbin is the one that needed it most. It will elevate him. He's becoming a good "fuck your favorites" kind of character.

On the other hand, I don't know what happened with the rest of the show aside from the Usos being awesome heels.
 
Who cares about shit were booking. The G1 blocks get announced tonight.

What outsiders are we expecting?

I think Go shiozaki and marufuji

Only participants today, the blocks are announced on the 26th and the matches on the 27th.

Not sure there'll be too many surprises this year, tbh - Juice deserves a spot. Suzuki will be in it for sure, maybe ZSJ and Davey Boy Jr. as well. Unless they drop some NJPW guys from last year's line-up, that leaves one open spot for grabs - Cody, or someone interesting?

Saw lots of people begging for Sekimoto and Riddle, both are booked in London during the G1. Others have touted the possibility of Kento, he'd probably have to eat some shit but it'd be a real high profile opportunity. WALTER would be my pick for an outside name, though - based on nothing more than I'm sure he'd be a perfect fit for NJPW.
 
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