Don't mean to sound ignorant here, but I always presumed the shows were largely scripted. I definitely didn't think any of these sort of sexual encounters were real.
If it was filmed, that should be pretty open and shut against the people that allowed something to continue.
you don't sound ignorant. this shit is almost always a rig, which is why I hardly believe any of this and will gladly recant my words in the 1 year follow up of a legal conclusion to this case (which if true, heads should fucking roll).
Reality shows are pro wrestling and I'm always very cautious about picking up the pitchfork when something controversial like this happens. I'm perhaps naive, but I would guess almost all people except actual rapists disapprove of rape, so clamouring to claim disgust to show you big heartedness always leaves me a bit cold.
You are missing my point entirely. I completely agree that in cases where someone displays those obvious signs, that it is rape. Nothing ambiguous, nothing difficult, it's rape. What I'm arguing is in the case when people can actually black out but still operate "normally" (they just look a bit drunk).
^^ this is a really real thing that most grown ups with alcohol experience probably understand reasonably well. It's why people drive cars when smashed, it's why we get in fights, it's probably why some rapists rape and claim they didn't know better, it's PROBABLY IN SOME CASES (NOT ALL) also why some girls claim they were raped but the guy says she was in to it, etc etc.
I'll probably get hanged for the above, but alcohol is messy. making everything cut and dried doesn't actually do anyone any favours.
to be clear
So she's basically passed out on the fucking floor and he puts his dick in her mouth.
And this was filmed. And multiple people didn't stop it.
What. the. fuck.
^^ the reactions in this thread, I would be absolutely surprised if this is exactly what really occurred. Bystander syndrome is a real thing, but I can't imagine professionals judging content would all be just down with it and taping things.
lets see now
To recap: Multiple sources told People that BIP producers allegedly filmed cast member DeMario Jackson engaging in a sexual encounter with a female contestant who may have been too drunk to consent. Warner Bros. has declined to comment on the specifics of the allegations. Jackson, meanwhile, has defended himself to TMZ, stating, through sources, that he had oral sex with a female contestant in a hot tub and that the next day everything was fine. Now, sources close to the female contestant are telling TMZ her side of the story. Originally, our sister site the Cut withheld the name of the contestant due to the sensitive nature of the allegations and the fact that she had not yet spoken out about them. Now, however, we will present her side of things, as told to TMZ.
this all reads like gossip. Lets put people on trial folks! Smells like 'holy shit they were hammered' --> american legal advice preemptive statement --> gossip ensues.
GAF is stupid with this shit sometimes. maybe wait till the courtcase.
