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[Tripon]

Washington (CNN)At least three Republican senators are expected to publicly oppose the Senate's health care proposal Thursday afternoon, a Senate GOP source familiar with their plans told CNN.

An aide confirmed Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky is expected to be one of those three senators.

Republicans can only lose two members of their 52-senator caucus in order to pass their proposal to repeal and replace Obamacare.

The news of three senators opposing the plan was first reported by NBC News. A number of other GOP senators are avoiding outright supporting the new health care bill unveiled by Republican leaders Thursday morning -- saying they need more time to read the fine print before taking a stand.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/polit...-bill-support0551PMVODtopLink&linkId=38990949

It's probably Ted Cruz. The guy claims he's a conservative, but when it was time to call for Donald Trump, he fucking did it.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

They will fall in line.

 

[zero_suit]

Don't fall for it.

 

[tuxfool]

This is all theatre.

This is meaningless. They'll make some insignificant changes and those people will be aboard.

 

[thestopsign]

Murkowski, Paul, and Collins are probably all against it. Good news if true!

 

[Flying Toaster]

They will either fall in line.

Or the Turtle knew this would happen and this is the GOP's way to say they tried...

I have no clue anymore.

 

[selfnoise]

The other two are Collins and Murkowski. Paul will cave and they'll pass it.

 

[kadotsu]

Sure

 

[Ahasverus]

Suuuuure

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They will fall in line.

Paul won't, but they don't need him if they can ensure 1 other No turns Yes.

I think there's more than 3, though, they're just reporting 3 because it's the threshold for it failing. We'll have to see who those senators are.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

it's passing prepare yourselves

 

[RPGCrazied]

One can hope. They will oppose it, then get special favors, and turn into a yes.

 

[Flying Toaster]

Anecdotal I know but here in Arizona Flake is taking a lot of shit for this bill. He will vote for it but his office has sent out a few emails saying that he stands behind certain aspects of Obamacare.

 

[LegendofLex]

As someone on Twitter pointed out, they're probably just doing this so they can turn heel when special offers and/or meaningless concessions are made

 

[sturgboski]

I don't believe Republican lies.

 

[Dead Prince]

Surejan.gif

 

[BitStyle]

Not buying it

 

[Inyourprime]

I'll believe it when I see that happen on the senate floor. Until then, nope.

 

[VendettaRed07]

I believe Rand will vote no

I don't believe others will if they are still unnamed.

 

[KingV]

They will either fall in line.

Or the Turtle knew this would happen and this is the GOP's way to say they tried...

I have no clue anymore.

It would not surprise me if they arranged to have exactly three oppose it. Turtle probably knows it's going to be doomsday for the Senate majority in 2020 if this passes, but also knows much of his caucus is scared of primaries if it fails.

So, he's going to find the three least vulnerable and have them oppose it to kill it.

 

[BotoxAgent]

Taking a page from McCains playbook? Lol

 

[BrutishMrFish]

It's probably Ted Cruz. The guy claims he's a conservative, but when it was time to call for Donald Trump, he fucking did it.

But kissing Trump's ass is nothing special for conservatives, so it could be anybody in the GOP.

 

[capslock]

Yeah, ok. "J Law Gif"

 

[Steel]

Just to confirm, this would need to go back to the house after the vote anyway, right?

Paul won't, but they don't need him if they can ensure 1 other No turns Yes.

I think there's more than 3, though, they're just reporting 3 because it's the threshold for it failing. We'll have to see who those senators are.

I certainly hope it's more than 3. Definitely agree that Paul won't change. Being opposed to everything that's not his exact ideal is the only thing that you can count on with him.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

It would not surprise me if they arranged to have exactly three oppose it. Turtle probably knows it's going to be doomsday for the Senate majority in 2020 if this passes, but also knows much of his caucus is scared of primaries if it fails.

So, he's going to find the three least vulnerable and have them oppose it to kill it.

This hasn't ever worked. The entire party is blamed for it. Those vulnerable senators will still lose.

 

[TheCochese]

Put up or shut up.

 

[ultron87]

So basically call Senators not on this list then. Don't have this let you think "oh, well it won't pass then".

 

[hobozero]

saying they need more time to read the fine print before taking a stand

Translation:

 

[chefbags]

Translation:

LOL so perfect it's fucking ridiculous.

 

[Flying Toaster]

So basically call Senators not on this list then. Don't have this let you think "oh, well it won't pass then".

Everyone should be calling their senators regardless because this is madness.

 

[ebullientprism]

It might be true.

Perhaps the bill doesnt kill poor people fast enough. Or maybe it doesnt kill enough poor people.

It can always be better.

 

[Futurevoid]

Join statement from 4 Senators:

"Open to negotiation"

i.e. make small changes and we're in. Collins and Murkowski will likely be the 2 no's left by the end giving them cover.

 

[Slacker]

I do love a good night at the theater!

 

[liquidtmd]

"We are concerned"

* Falls in line and votes for it

"We were concerned. We remain concerned but fuck it"

 

[impirius]

Please try not to faint from shock when three of them end up voting for it

 

[Shamrock7r]

Join statement from 4 Senators:

"Open to negotiation"

i.e. make small changes and we're in. Collins and Murkowski will likely be the 2 no's left by the end giving them cover.

I was expecting comic sans font

 

[RPGCrazied]

Of course Cruz is one of them. This bill doesn't kill poor people fast enough. Can't vote for that.

 

[kirblar]

"Doesn't Hurt Enough People"

That's not the group of 3 you wanted. Collins/Murkowski will vote against, it'll pass 50+1 vs 49.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Three of the most conservative senators are concerned it doesn't do enough to fuck over the poor and middle class.

This is nothing. They're going to vote for it.

 

[BobTheFork]

That just means there are 49 senators that need to get bitched at.

 

[charpunk]

Yeah okay. Guys like McCain like to talk tough until it's actually time to vote.

 

[zero_suit]

"We are concerned"

* Falls in line and votes for it

"We were concerned. We remain concerned but fuck it"

Sounds like McCain over the last 15 years.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Here comes Pence to use his vote to fuck as all. Can't wait. /s

 

[WedgeX]

Politico says:

#BREAKING: Republican Sens. Ted Cruz, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee and Rand Paul said Thursday that they are "not ready" to support the Senate Republicans' Obamacare repeal plan. Senate Republicans can only lose two members and still pass a bill.

 

[Anoregon]

It's all according to McConnel keikaku. None of this shit is real.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Politico says:

"Not ready" so they'll get some minor concession and then pass it. Whoopee

 

[Zyae]

four now

 

[PandaPandaPanda]

Politico says:

"not ready"

*makes minor amendment*

"i'm ready now"

hey constituents (if they even have the balls to even face them-many of which don't), I tried but at least I got the minor amendment to the bill

 

[Beartruck]

They will either fall in line.

Or the Turtle knew this would happen and this is the GOP's way to say they tried...

I have no clue anymore.

Mcconnell has stated he's not whipping votes for this, so it really could go either way.

 

[ahoyhoy]

Best thing about this song and dance is that they'll brag about how they played us all along to maximize their political capital and save some seats in districts opposed to this reform.

And the voting public won't give a shit.