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[Grief.exe]

This is actually the opposite of how they should design the PC version.

"For instance, there’s no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the controller feels really good," Destiny 2 project lead Mark Noseworthy said in an interview with Australian website Finder. "'I’m firing, I’m firing, I’m firing, oh, I’m losing control of my gun a little bit.' That feels great, especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller that makes you feel it. With a mouse and keyboard, you don’t want the mouse moving without you moving it, so recoil doesn’t feel good, so there is no recoil on PC... The basic idea is that some things don’t work that don’t feel good, and those places there are going to be little forks in the road."

Note they have clarified this response to, "the recoil on PC will be heavily modified from the console version, not removed." The underlying ideologies when approaching a PC version are still completely flawed.

Noseworthy later tweeted a clarification from Destiny 2's PC lead David Shaw, who said that recoil won't be completely eliminated on PCs but just "heavily modified from console." You can watch E3 footage captured on the PC version of the game which shows very little drift as a semi-automatic weapon empties numerous bursts of fire into enemies. Compare that to how the original Destiny works on consoles, where many weapons see their aim drift upward or to the side over multiple shots.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/destiny-2s-guns-wont-recoil-on-pc-as-they-do-on-consoles/

 

[Gaz_RB]

what

 

[Ibuki]

This is absolute nonsense.

 

[sixteen-bit]

So don't expect crossplay

 

[Princess Carl]

Hahaha oh my god

 

[SodiumBenzoate]

Have these people never played PC shooters?

 

[benicillin]

I think they've since clarified that they are fine tuning recoil on guns on the PC version independent of the console version so they feel good. But there probably won't be as much kick, no.

 

[DocSeuss]

GOOD. Recoil is trash for a post-quake era

 

[Syril]

The lead on the PC version had to clarify and said it would be "heavily modified" instead.

 

[Hektor]

That explanation is freakin' hilarious.

 

[Grim Patron]

I mean it isn't on steam anyway does it still matter????

 

[HKA6A7]

They are right, look at CS:GO.
The recoil ruined the gunplay.

/s

 

[thechristoph]

So...what if I use a controller on PC?

 

[Night Angel]

The lead on the PC version had to clarify and said it would be "heavily modified" instead.

This is fine. No recoil is bad, but tuning it for the M+KB experience is better than having it uniform with consoles.

 

[Rickenslacker]

Not that I'd mind having laser guns, but have these people even played anything on PC?

 

[chugen]

They are right, look at CS:GO.
The recoil ruined the gunplay.

/s

lets bring that feature to the ak

 

[NandoGip]

There's no way this is accurate. He's definitely confusing recoil with another term. I expect clarification.

Doesn't even make sense.

 

[reKon]

And I won't be spending money on this game. Thanks for allowing me to save some cash.

 

[Nokterian]

Bungie...

This is just fucking clueless..

 

[Bread]

"For instance, there's no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the controller feels really good," Destiny 2 project lead Mark Noseworthy said in an interview with Australian website Finder. "'I'm firing, I'm firing, I'm firing, oh, I'm losing control of my gun a little bit.' That feels great

i think mark noseworthy is enjoying the vibration of the controller a bit too much

 

[Orayn]

This was clarified recently, they're retooling how recoil works on the PC version to make it feel right for M/KB but it's still in there.

https://twitter.com/ShockAndShaw/status/877942060048728064

The original quote sounds like he actually meant to say "auto aim"

 

[bananafactory]

OP missed an important detail

Noseworthy later tweeted a clarification from Destiny 2's PC lead David Shaw, who said that recoil won't be completely eliminated on PCs but just "heavily modified from console."

 

[Pics_nao]

As someone whose only FPS games on PC are Titanfall, and Overwatch, this is fucking stupid as shit. Game somehow manages to sound worse as time goes on.

 

[Grief.exe]

The initial argument is flat out wrong though. They should be encouraged to implement increased recoil on PC, not a reduction, due to the inherent increase in accuracy and control. Games with little to no recoil end up boring in the long run since there is nothing to improve.

Destiny also looks like it has fairly low TTK multiplayer, having no recoil combined with mouse aim limits the skill ceiling and promotes camping.

So even if they are just heavily modifying recoil instead of completely removing it, they still have the wrong base ideology.

 

[Nephtes]

Do I get recoil on the PC if I plug an Xbox controller into it?

 

[New002]

This is gold (Jerry).

 

[Afrodium]

It sounds like he's talking about rumble? He mentions that recoil would physically make your mouse move, which is... odd.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

What? Haha


What If someone uses a controller On PC? The aim assist for destiny on consoles is kind of ridiculous. I wonder if controllers on pc will have aim assist like consoles or they'll remove it altogether. Cause that will definitely change the feel of the game for controller players

 

[prag16]

I mean it isn't on steam anyway does it still matter????

 

[brunomartynhak]

To be honest, in one year and some months after moving mostly to PC, I still haven't learned how to properly control recoil with a mouse.

Seriously. My aim is good, but not the compensation, totally opposite with a controller (terrible aim, good compensation after getting into my target)

 

[Cels]

you know what would be funny

on pc, if you play with mkb you have no recoil, but if you plug in a controller you do have recoil

best of both worlds

 

[GavinUK86]

That doesn't make sense. Someone must have their wires crossed somewhere.

 

[bananafactory]

The initial argument is flat out wrong though. They should be encouraged to implement recoil on PC since the accuracy and control of your shots is so much higher. Games with little to no recoil end up boring in the long run since there is nothing to improve.

Destiny also looks like it has fairly low TTK multiplayer, having no recoil combined with mouse aim limits the skill ceiling and promotes camping.

So even if they are just heavily modifying recoil instead of completely removing it, they still have the wrong base ideology.

Yes but the thread title is also flat out wrong. It is present.

 

[fluffydelusions]

I mean it isn't on steam anyway does it still matter????

It will be on the Blizz app which millions of people use everyday.

 

[pantsmith]

The interview was done in Australian, so clearly something was lost in translation. (lol)

 

[BrettHeazy]

wat?!

 

[hydruxo]

there’s no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the controller feels really good

 

[darkinstinct]

GOOD. Recoil is trash for a post-quake era

But they have it on consoles.

 

[commish]

Title should be fixed to "PC recoil will be different than console recoil", and then every post can be updated to say "well, no shit, sherlock".

 

[Grief.exe]

Yes but the thread title is also flat out wrong. It is present.

This is like a Kellyanne Conway answer.

Here's this serious issue that needs to be addressed, and here is all the reasoning behind the arguments.

Ya? Well you messed up this unrelated detail.

 

[Solrac]

looks like playing with weqpons like bad juju and jade rabbit will be pretty much like cheating on pc

 

[arcticice]

there wasn't much recoil in the OG Destiny either.

 

[EL CUCO]

Fine by me

Title should be fixed to "PC recoil will be different than console recoil", and then every post can be updated to say "well, no shit, sherlock".

But yeah, what commish said is about right

 

[Tagyhag]

OP missed an important detail

Well that's good, no recoil would mean that this game would be easy as hell lol.

 

[GavinUK86]

Ah, that makes more sense.

Misleading title OP.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

 

[AcridMeat]

They're actively doing everything they can to make me dislike it on PC enough to not buy it.

I was planning on playing with a controller too...man what the hell their logic is totally off.

 

[New002]

It sounds like he's talking about rumble? He mentions that recoil would physically make your mouse move, which is... odd.

I think he meant mouse (cursor). So basically he's saying it's weird that your aimer on screen is going crazy because you're holding down left click, but in real life your mouse is stationary and hasn't moved (since no rumble feedback).

 

[UnluckyKate]

looks like playing with weqpons like bad juju and jade rabbit will be pretty much like cheating on pc

yeah, PC meta is superior then. No Gally meta !

 

[adversarial]

Destiny 2 devs have been saying a lot of dumb, disappointing shit lately, seems like.