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Professor Beef
Banned
Maybe if Wiz changed the arena pricing to $20 flat instead of a $20 discount he'd sell those seats.
notworksafe
Member
with the entry numbers that have been shown so far we won't have to worry about arena seating next year anyway
Professor Beef
Banned
thank god
Mr Wizard with that hustle.
ShinMaruku
Member
The evo aims finally outstretch their reach.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
They are so fucking dumb. Seriously. Like do you REALLY think SFV being hard to play is why it's not doing well.
?????????????? WTF is your deal?
Combofiend's genius shall not be questioned! In time a new, glorious era for the FGC shall emerge, and anybody who's against it absolutely deserves to be left behind!
On a different note confirmation of no Tao Pai Pai for DBZ has me a bit worried about the variety of character archetypes that will be available.
On a different note confirmation of no Tao Pai Pai for DBZ has me a bit worried about the variety of character archetypes that will be available.
It was a joke in reference to china really liking KOF ( the extent of people stabbing each other over it) and from my understanding now make KOF. And has characters, and movesets that may have been inspired by street fighter.
That was da joke
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
well there's that chinese KOF knockoff that ended up getting actual KOF characters in it anyways
CommandThrower
Member
Well, there is Xuan Dou Zhi Wang(aka "King of Combat") that is reminiscent of KOF. Terry Bogard and Benimaru are guest characters.
Yeah, that game.
katsubento
Member
So what exactly caused this drop? I don't think it's Trump alone, that's a lot of people that dropped off the SFV boat (and other boats). I haven't been keeping up, are people not taking the patches well or what?
I don't really blame EVO if it was trending upwards and then things out of their control reversed that trend after booking these things a year in advance.
I don't really blame EVO if it was trending upwards and then things out of their control reversed that trend after booking these things a year in advance.
lucebuce12
Member
S2.5 came out a few weeks ago with Ed.
Though tbh if people liked Season 2 then I have trouble seeing why they wouldn't like S2.5 since it's even more offense-oriented because of the removal of the jump-back OS.
Probably a mix of Trump alienating a lot of people internationally and issues from the venue last year. I'm not sure if the numbers are finalised yet though, so numbers could go up all round.
Did they release official numbers?
Trump is making everything harder for everyone yet alone internationals. Don't know about anyone else but even with a state ID, in PA new ones won't even give you permission to fly from now on. I don't even want to talk about all the other BS. Politics is an easy way to get your blood pressure up.
Trump is making everything harder for everyone yet alone internationals. Don't know about anyone else but even with a state ID, in PA new ones won't even give you permission to fly from now on. I don't even want to talk about all the other BS. Politics is an easy way to get your blood pressure up.
Son you had your head stuck in the sand all this time?
Watch any Born Free interviews out there with the pros, they have all been going HAM on Season 2 of SFV.
I think it's a combination of a multiple factors that resulted in this decline:
*SFV caused a lot of people to get hyped and enter in EVO as it was a new game. A lot was riding on it and people tried to ride the hype bandwagon as much as they could. Now that hype bandwagon is gone and people who weren't really competitive in the game don't really want to compete in the game anymore.
*Accommodations and venue were not up to snuff based on people who went there. Lots of cramming in small spaces due to the amount of people. I think for a lot of people it was probably too much for them to come back to.
*People did not like the assigned seating arrangement of Mandalay Bay, they prefer the old style of seating in the older EVOs.
*A lot of major games have their own major tournament circuit now like SFV, Tekken, DOA, Arc games etc. EVO for some games is not the end all be all place to crown the world champion, it is actually just a grand slam as far as they are concerned. For example, people don't consider Infiltration the world champion of SFV, they consider it to be Knuckle Du. EVO still has the prestige but relative to before it means less in the grand scheme of things.
*The eventual decline of fighting games. A lot of the games still on that list are older games now, we got like 2 new games this year. The 2 new games we got this year are not that different from older games, people just aren't hype for the same Tekken 7 that has been at EVO or Injustice 2 which has had wack showings at EVO before (people seem to treat IJ2 the same as IJ1).
*Trickle down effect of SFV not pulling in the numbers. Where there isn't a lot of cross over, there are enough pot monster type people who enter multiple games just for the hell of it. When you lose such a chunk of SFV players, it trickles down and effects every other game as we are seeing.
*This is a huge conjecture on my part... but I think the donation drive hurt the entrant numbers too. I think if Pokken and Marvel 3 were both in then entrants would've been better because Pokken would've pulled some nice numbers overall and it would've trickled out to other games a bit. The whole donation thing just rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, it had the opposite effect that the one with Melee because it did not result in a snowball type momentum for Marvel 3 due to Marvel Infinite taking so much mind share at the same time.
*You also have far more overlap in types of games... you have two Smash games, two Capcom games and two anime games. There is no wild factor game in at EVO like Pokken was last year (which mind you got a thousand entrants in there). The lack of a wild game at EVO means that there is less incentive for the casuals to go to EVO because a new, untested game like that means people think they have a chance to do well (when of course they don't, it's the illusion).
There are probably more factors at play but that's how I see it.
ColonialHawk
Member
totally agree Dahbomb
Oh wow, really? I didn't know that it was that bad over there. I wanted to travel to America in the next couple years but I think I'll pass given Trumps attitude towards people in my particular background.
ColonialHawk
Member
Yeah the current political climate is just stupid and frustrating.
The pre-release hype/marketing for this game has been significantly worse than either SFxT and SFV.
Like people were actually hyped for those games. With Marvel Infinite, most people are just lamenting the fact that this game is so worse than Marvel 3 in so many ways. People couldn't shit on SF4 hard enough before SFV came out.
That interview was laughably bad even by my usual PR lip service standards. Relegating iconic comic book characters to "functions" is meme worthy.
What's your favorite "function" in a fighting games?
Like people were actually hyped for those games. With Marvel Infinite, most people are just lamenting the fact that this game is so worse than Marvel 3 in so many ways. People couldn't shit on SF4 hard enough before SFV came out.
That interview was laughably bad even by my usual PR lip service standards. Relegating iconic comic book characters to "functions" is meme worthy.
What's your favorite "function" in a fighting games?
I mean, I do like how my character plays usually over design or lore or w/e
But I still like things like looks, personality, or anything that makes my character more than a wireframe I control on screen
Also I recognize that I am a minority.
jesus combofiend these are marvel characters and marvel fans
Holy Order Sol
Member
put_cycloid_gamma_in_mvci
CommandThrower
Member
Command throws.
MiniBossBattle
Member
I want Dooms footdive function
Professor Beef
Banned
I mean he's not wrong, but he said it in the dumbest way imaginable lmao
Karsticles
Member
He's incredibly wrong.
Shouta
Member
That looks amazing, lol. Zhang Fei's moveset looks hella amusing.
Such a stupid response for someone who's supposed to give a PR speech about what basically is a fanservice game where apparently, most of the budget went into the characters licensing fee! What are you doing Peter?!!
ShinMaruku
Member
Why you think Xiao Hai is the best in the world in KOF?
ShinMaruku
Member
dat Elena is on point
in the end all that NeoGeo piracy SNK was harping about eventually paid off with KOF's unusual popularity in China
Khaos Kontrol
Banned
I wonder if Melee not being on Sunday had a significant impact on the arena ticket sales, considering it is one of the bigger games at EVO.