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Dragon Ball FighterZ - Characters, Specials, and Stages Discussion

Spman2099

Member
The XenoVerse community is in an uproar because the DLC4 Future Trunks palette swap doesn't have Super Saiyan Rage mode.

They've also expressed concern that Dragonball Fighterz doesnt let you choose base forms of Saiyans and letting you choose to transform.

Trust me, the Dragonball community is mad fickle and really anal retentive about their canon. If a canonically weak character is higher tier than whatever the highest for Saiyan is, they will whine to the developers until they are nerfed.

I wouldn't start panicking yet. Perhaps the difference between an offensive point character and a support character is only about 15% less damaging combos, in which case you need another mixup or opportunity.

I think these ghouls are going to be largely ignored. A game like this was never meant to appease those little goblins. And let's be honest, they will probably buy the game anyway (because they are weak).

I got the exact opposite impression from that interview.

Yeah, I found that interview very encouraging.
 

A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
There are people that are straight upset about the videogames because someone like Saibaiman can fight and beat Goku.

These people are idiots and should be ignored
 

Village

Member
The reaction to this game is fun , in a social observation sort of way. Its really interesting to see people, like not understanding fighting games and balance.
 
Power levels you say..?

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Why call it Dragon Ball FighterZ tho, if the roster is supposed to include Super characters. Im expecting Beerus, and SSB Vegeta and Goku at most.
 

Village

Member
Why call it Dragon Ball FighterZ tho, if the roster is supposed to include Super characters. Im expecting Beerus, and SSB Vegeta and Goku at most.
I think you will get more dudes from different eras, I think they will be DLC

I think one of the first posts I said was " i'm waiting on the SS4 goku and SS4Vegeta " i'm already in my mind, putting that as DLC
 
Golden Freeza being in already tells us Super will be repped.

When it comes to DB reps, with Tao being deconfirmed, the only other ones I could imagine are Daimao, Roshi, General Blue, and maybe 23rd Budokai Chi Chi.

Daimao would basically be a clone with Piccolo in. Roshi would be interesting. Blue has the psychic abilities but likely isn't popular enough. Chi Chi was in Super DBZ, so it's possible.

I'd personally like Zarbon, but I can't see him (or most of Freeza's henchmen in general) getting a slot.
 

Fj0823

Member
The XenoVerse community is in an uproar because the DLC4 Future Trunks palette swap doesn't have Super Saiyan Rage mode.

They've also expressed concern that Dragonball Fighterz doesnt let you choose base forms of Saiyans and letting you choose to transform.

Trust me, the Dragonball community is mad fickle and really anal retentive about their canon. If a canonically weak character is higher tier than whatever the highest for Saiyan is, they will whine to the developers until they are nerfed.

I wouldn't start panicking yet. Perhaps the difference between an offensive point character and a support character is only about 15% less damaging combos, in which case you need another mixup or opportunity.

I just hope those characters are also real characters and not just gimmicks. For example I don't want a character with a really strong assist but with Dan-tier specials, no air dash and double jump.

I think they may be specifically talking about Hercule with that quote. Exploding gift assist OP?

The reason they are, we are, upset is not because of "muh canon" or shit like that, it's because it's pretty shitty to show images of a cool transformation in trailers and magazines and then come out and say:

"Oh that was just a cutscene guys, Super Saiyan Rage is not in the game"

You don't see anyone upset about Deformed Zamasu not being in the game because they never had the form appear in any kind of marketing, people already knew that form wasn't in and nobody has a problem with it.
 

sephi22

Member
The reason they are, we are, upset is not because of "muh canon" or shit like that, it's because it's pretty shitty to show images of a cool transformation in trailers and magazines and then come out and say:

"Oh that was just a cutscene guys, Super Saiyan Rage is not in the game"
Oh my bad. I stopped following the game after dlc started coming out and only came to know about the recent drama accidentally while browsing for DBF content.
 

cordy

Banned
Who is your favorite character?

Gohan.
I recently had a daughter and she is two years old. As I watch her grow up it reminds me of Gohan. He's smart and strong, maybe not as strong in the recent episodes, but he's tough.

What is your favorite Dragon Ball arc in the story?

My favorite, because of love Gohan, is the Cell arc from Dragon Ball Z and when he started going to high school as Super Saiyaman.

Been telling people that there will be more than 1 Gohan. Also, I been telling yall this is mostly gonna be a Z game. Yall can cut out all these other characters who probably won't be in. Dead em. They done. Finito. Take out all these Super reps. We in now.

Dragonball FighterZ

For DB I think that King Piccolo and probably Bulma will be represented there but that about it.
 
From the interview:

Does Dragon Ball FighterZ take a character’s power level into account? For example, could Yamcha actually beat Goku in this game?

We’re trying to balance that out with the 3v3 aspect. There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku. Thanks to the 3v3 feature we can balance that out with the Dragon Ball universe.

Good. Yamcha should just be a good assist but weak character just like the show.
 

Puruzi

Banned
Doesn't really say that there's only gonna be strong characters. She basically says that because of 3v3 it lets them have weaker characters so i'm not sure why people are getting uppity about power levels. Feel pretty good about decent character representation.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Been telling people that there will be more than 1 Gohan. Also, I been telling yall this is mostly gonna be a Z game. Yall can cut out all these other characters who probably won't be in. Dead em. They done. Finito. Take out all these Super reps. We in now.

Dragonball FighterZ

For DB I think that King Piccolo and probably Bulma will be represented there but that about it.
That kinda goes against her "rep all eras of DB" comment. Plus we've had DBZ games with GT characters before. As someone else said in this thread, FighterZ is just interesting wordplay.
 

sephi22

Member
If Tao is a flat no then DB is going to have really sparse representation, unless you're counting characters who stuck around later but did next to nothing (Roshi).
How many DB characters do you want in a fighting game that is titled Z but might have DB+Super characters?

I don't even know how anyone can expect more than Kid Goku, if even him. Also isn't Tao Pai Pai a jobber? Were people unironically expecting him to be in? I'm not too up to date on my DB lore

That kinda goes against her "rep all eras of DB" comment. Plus we've had DBZ games with GT characters before. As someone else said in this thread, FighterZ is just interesting wordplay.
I still don't think she said that all eras quote. I remember her saying something ambiguous about all generations of DB fans should be happy and I feel like she keeps getting misquoted. Would love to be wrong though.
 

Zalman

Member
Been telling people that there will be more than 1 Gohan. Also, I been telling yall this is mostly gonna be a Z game. Yall can cut out all these other characters who probably won't be in. Dead em. They done. Finito. Take out all these Super reps. We in now.

Dragonball FighterZ

For DB I think that King Piccolo and probably Bulma will be represented there but that about it.
Argues for no Super representation based on the title.
Proceeds to suggest DB characters.
 

A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
How many DB characters do you want in a fighting game that is titled Z but might have DB+Super characters?

I don't even know how anyone can expect more than Kid Goku, if even him. Also isn't Tao Pai Pai a jobber? Were people unironically expecting him to be in? I'm not too up to date on my DB lore

For the people complaining about a possible lack of diversity in movesets Tao would be an amazing addition.
 

NeonZ

Member
If Tao is a flat no then DB is going to have really sparse representation, unless you're counting characters who stuck around later but did next to nothing (Roshi).

I'm pretty sure that's what they'll be doing. In that French interview it was suggested Tenshinhan could make it in, and I could see his moveset being mostly DB based for example, since he had a wide array of techniques there, while in DBZ he basically just spams Kikoho. Same thing goes to Roshi. I could see them counting him as DB representation, even though he sticks around during the entire series, since his big battles were in DB.

How many DB characters do you want in a fighting game that is titled Z but might have DB+Super characters?

I don't even know how anyone can expect more than Kid Goku, if even him. Also isn't Tao Pai Pai a jobber? Were people unironically expecting him to be in? I'm not too up to date on my DB lore

Tao Pai Pai was the first person that completely crushed Goku. He also had hilariously memorable over the top attacks like killing someone who gave trouble to Goku by hitting him with his tongue once, or throwing a pillar and jumping on top of it to get to far away places.

He was easily defeated in all his later appearances though.
 

Fandangox

Member
I don't even know how anyone can expect more than Kid Goku, if even him. Also isn't Tao Pai Pai a jobber? Were people unironically expecting him to be in? I'm not too up to date on my DB lore

Who cares if he is a Jobber, mechanically/moveset wise he could have been interesting.
 

Boke1879

Member
IDK I think Super will be repped.

If not they are leaving too many characters on the table. Especially considering most Super characters are well liked.
 

Slaythe

Member
Trust me, DBS 17 looks just as cool & is actually a good character, whereas GT took a massive dump on 17.

I love his DBS version but after Future Trunks, the only 17 we can get is that one

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Which is still pretty unique as far as male fighters go in DBZ.

Man, please let all 3 be playable. Pls.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I don't even know how anyone can expect more than Kid Goku, if even him. Also isn't Tao Pai Pai a jobber? Were people unironically expecting him to be in? I'm not too up to date on my DB lore

Not so much expecting him as much as not seeing many other viable options from the early days. Tbh the only other DB villains that left any other sort of impression on me were Pilaf (joke option) and King Piccolo (probably too similar to his offspring to justify a slot).
 

Village

Member
Trust me, DBS 17 looks just as cool & is actually a good character, whereas GT took a massive dump on 17.

But You can get DBS 17, as an alt outfit to regular 17.

And Super 17 can be DLC you don't buy , but I buy. And then everyone is happy.

And then give me the super 17 fused with 18 outfit

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Look at this man... woman, genderless fusion robot. Point is I think they look dope and I want them in.

Also Give me an alt outfit of Xenovrse trunks pls thanks, also whats the over under of Towa being in the game
 

sephi22

Member
Who cares if he is a Jobber, mechanically/moveset wise he could have been interesting.

For the people complaining about a possible lack of diversity in movesets Tao would be an amazing addition.

Let me put it this way. For a game with limited roster spots, it'd be like putting Birdie over Sagat in Street Fighter or Spencer over Vergil in a MvC game for the sake of gameplay variety.

If the roster is big, then knock yourselves out, but his omission doesn't mean doom and gloom for DB representation, especially if he's a shit and unpopular character.
 

Village

Member
I don't follow GG or BB, but does ASW usually do costume DLC? I can see there being a good amount for it in this game.

Usually from what I understand no, but I think this franchise might uh, push so speak. I think they could legit make a great deal of money on such things, I think namco bandai knows this too.

I think this is going to be their first game where they start selling that sort of thing, it will just take a fucking while to do.
 

Lulubop

Member
Let me put it this way. For a game with limited roster spots, it'd be like putting Birdie over Sagat in Street Fighter or Spencer over Vergil in a MvC game for the sake of gameplay variety.

If the roster is big, then knock yourselves out, but his omission doesn't mean doom and gloom for DB representation, especially if he's a shit and unpopular character.

That's a damn good reason, wtf?

And no it's not the same, diversity in DB is much worse
 
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