Iced Arcade
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xbox fan but not a fan of aaron myself.
the posts in this thread are embarrassing as per usual on xbox related topics.
the posts in this thread are embarrassing as per usual on xbox related topics.
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Aaron Greenberg: "there are a lot" of big unannounced Xbox games.
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Why does Nintendo fund 2 new Metroid games? Shit doesn't sell yet they do it anyway because there's a relatively tiny fanbase that would get a console for these things.
This thread was a neutral message on a PR statement by a MS spokesperson with almost no commentary attached to it. Them devolving into getting bashed is because 90% of these threads are about Phil or somone else saying the same thing over and over again for years and nothing siginifcant coming out of it.
Didn't see the Psyonix crossplay thread. There being idiots on both sides isn't really significant to the discussion tho. If you can even call it that. "Lol MS should deliver on their promises at some point." "Omg GAFFaqs, shit slinging, what do you expect on this forum yadda yadda!"
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Theres reasons for that.
Sonys 1st party delivers and has been for years. MS has a history of blowing hot air and delivering very little especially since kinect.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Lots of very childish and unintelligent replies up in here.
He was asked a question and he answered it. This wasn't some sort of announcement.
They can't just say nothing. Are you freaking kidding me? The MS is dad speculation runs rampant enough because of their current drought. If they continued to say nothing as an answer to the most asked question of them from their consumers atm the world wouldn't be able to handle the level of elementary critical thinking that would ensue.
He was asked a question and he answered it. This wasn't some sort of announcement.
They can't just say nothing. Are you freaking kidding me? The MS is dad speculation runs rampant enough because of their current drought. If they continued to say nothing as an answer to the most asked question of them from their consumers atm the world wouldn't be able to handle the level of elementary critical thinking that would ensue.
Theslammer
Member
LOL
This is basically why comments like this from Phil Spencer and Aaron Greenberg are so infuriating..
Look how many exclusives both have released/announced this past year, it's not crazy to have doubts over MS having "a lot of big unannounced Xbox exclusives" or believing Sony will have more lined up. Especially as Sony's track record backs them up, MS' doesn't.
Makes no sense to hold this console to the standards of a new generation when that's not what it is.
Ricerocket
Member
That is how reputation works. Company 1 promises ___ years away and cancels half of them and Company 2 promises ___ years away and eventually releases them all. It's clear who you can trust with games and who tarnished their rep with making games.
I don't even own an Xbox, but god damn are Xbox threads unbearable these days. The sad truth is even if they did announce a couple of huge new first party IPs at E3 everyone would just say stuff like, "They're just going to get cancelled anyway." Bunch of children on this forum.
Aaron Greenberg kind of deserves it.
If they have projects to show, why not show them? They haven't been shy about chest beating ever.
Okay, am I missing the gag here? As this is Photo shopped.
MisterR
Member
At the end of the day Microsoft hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt. They are the boy who cried wolf.
Woops, didn't notice it was the wrong version. supposed to say 1080p
"Killer apps" are third party games. The only people who launch with Killer apps are Nintendo because they don't have third party support. You act as if Assassins creed, COD and Battlefront 2 aren't launching within a week or so of the Xbox one x
Woodchipper
Member
Still don't know what that means. Anyone else?
... and a minor exclusive called Spider-Man
Sony is a different situation. Last year they revelead four major exclusive games : god of war , days gone , death stranding and the last of us pt II ( and even more mid budget games like Uncharted lost legacy and Knack 2). But we also know that there are teams working on something new like Sucker Punch ( Infamous SS was released in 2014 ).
"whole generation"
And say what you want about the Wii U (I hated that pos) but it had a better first party output than the One has had so far.
So that's a bullshit image.
Seriously, there are so many missing from it.
Yeah maybe sort out your narrative before engaging in that stuff folks. I already wasted way too much time in here and also wasted yours. Sorry for that. Also sorry for not replying to the rest of your posts but yeah... Not worth our time lol.
Holy shit forgot about Spidey
My comment didn't say there was no one at all that liked it.
You highlighting that is strange since it doesn't contradict what i posted.
Gravity Rush 2
Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Kingdom Hearts I.5+II.5
Nioh
Yakuza Zero
Persona 5
Horizon
That's just the first four months this year and it already beats LukasTaves' laughable 4 year list into oblivion.
FerretGamer
Member
It's true, I've got a napkin full of game concepts that will be exclusive to the Xbox One. It's ok my studio doesn't exist... yet.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Not really a killer app at all when they will all be available on three other consoles all $100 - $250 cheaper than oneX. With a 90m install base at that.
And even if cod/battlefront 2 are significantly technically superior on oneX no one will know outside of digital foundry viewers because of their ps4 marketing agreements.
You're right, in the end it's just 2 different people's opinions. Just stated in a very absolute way. Also the way you both speak of Kamiya like he either has nothing to do with the game looking awsome/is the main reason some people think this game looked good was kinda funny.
Anyway, I don't want to appear like im bailing out of the "discussion", so if you want to continue this we can write pm's. I'm out of here now though.
AS I said in the other thread. Some people just like to watch the world burn.
The Spoony Hou
Member
I thought this was about original Xbox games...
anothertech
Member
Yep. It's a real statement by Aaron but says '1080p' instead of 4k, When he was defending Xbone games lower resolutions.
He will never live that stupidity down.
@aaron
Why would list wars end up as below if that were remotely true?
Primethius
Banned
Because those posters don't decide what is thread worthy?
What a dumb comment. There's a bunch of Phil Spencer threads all the time. How is this PR bit any less relevant?
The point still stands. The last three years of the 360 were awful coming off those amazing previous years.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Uno Venova
Banned
Of course, Nintendo is having one of the best exclusives years in their history and the other has been spinning their wheels for a while now.
LiquidSolid
Member
I love this narrative. Every time I hear this excuse I think "Do you really think Phil Spencer is that incompetent?" Because seriously, there's NO crossover between the hardware engineering teams and game developers, you can do both at the same time.
No need to go to pm. I spoke of kamiya as if he's human and can run into trouble making a game.
There's also nothing absolute about saying the reception on the game was lukewarm.
I thought it was a discussion... no quotes needed.
Humdinger
Member
Forgot Nier: Automata.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Not sure why you're u expected this thread to be better.
Humdinger
Member
Where did all the (deep announcer voice) exclusives go?
Nightengale
Member
The other part of this is the notion that hardware development will somehow slow down and be prioritized post-Scorpio. It's a multi-year cycle, and naturally Xbox's hardware team will be neck-deep to planning what the next box already.
Considering it's an extremely strong likelihood the next Xbox would be released in the next 3-4 years, there is no "refocusing", but rather simultaneous development.
Nightengale
Member
My list only tracks:
a. first-party exclusives
b. lifetime indie exclusives
c. timed AAA exclusives/strategic 3rd-party games that have exclusivity announced
gaming_noob
Member
Maybe Xbox is hard capped at a certain budget per year. Now that the HW is done, budget moves on dev of games. That could explain why Spencer recently mentioned he gave the green light on a few new projects.
soul creator
Member
A casual perusal of this board does obviously indicate that most people value Sony and Nintendo's first party games more than Microsoft's (and I can see why, though I think the "MS has no first party games" talking point is sometimes a little bit overblown), I just thought it was amusing because "we have some cool stuff that we haven't announced yet" is always an empty, banal statement, regardless of the company saying it, lol.
But it's not some huge deal or anything, and there's a grain of truth in the differences of first party reception, which is why I said it was "amusing" and not "omg why does everyone hate MS, what a huge double standard"
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