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New Nintendo 2DS XL - Hardware Review Thread
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Finale Fireworker
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3D is the nightmare.
Also, Nintendo has released two skus of the regular n3DS in the US. One came out with Happy Home Designer and the other one came out with Pokémon on the VC. Did you not know that? You've had access to the regular n3DS for almost two years.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Because $$$$$.
They've already sold 65 million 3DS systems, meaning there is a higher install base to sell the games to. I also imagine 3DS games, comparatively speaking, cost a pittance to produce.
DS is the third pillar
For the same reason they didn't consider the DS a successor to the GBA.
Covering their backs in case things go south.
Cloggerdude
Member
So is the US only getting the turquoise model for now? Why in the world would you not release the white/orange model here as well?
I may pick one up, but not until there is another color option available.
I may pick one up, but not until there is another color option available.
This was a unit by unit problem on 3ds xls too.
2DS is still good enough for kids ans cheaper for parents
But I think it is a problem the N2DS didn't hit the 100 range
2DS was like 100 cheaper than 3DS, while N2DS is only ~50 cheaper than N3DS.
That game will be just fine on n2DS, since the 3D effect in that game is one of the worst on the system. I'm sure Monster Games was preoccupied with getting the game to run at all on the hardware, but it feels like a last minute inclusion compared to everything else.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Lol it was already talked about in this thread. The core market for 2DS/3DS does not care about 240p and TN panels. That's the 10% or less of people who mainly post on NeoGAF. It makes no sense for Nintendo cater to those people when the main people buying 2DS/3DS are just looking for an outlet to play Mario Kart, Pokémon, or Animal Crossing. Cheapest possible handheld for Nintendo to construct is the best choice when their market doesn't care about screen resolution or panel type.
Makes complete sense.
ss_lemonade
Member
Is there a TN/IPS lottery too with this?
I agree, the 3D is none too impressive in Xenoblade. I don't like how it moves the UI to the foreground, it feels very intrusive.
hardly,
It is a budget device, low cost shit
People expecting IPS and OLED are delusional
So according to the DF review, the speakers are now at the bottom and at times sound can be muffled due to the interference from your own palms? That's not great
I was worried about this, sad to hear that the speaker placement is as bad as I thought it would be when I first saw them. Thats a deal breaker for me unfortunately. I need good sound for my games, and I don't want to have to awkwardly hold the 2DS and get hand cramps. Horrible design decision!
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
I agree it's not impressive, but without the 3D on, even in its lowest setting, the overall graphics look smeared. It's tough because they downscaling a 480p game down to 240p and it looks like it. The screen resolution is too small and its tough to cram everything they need to. That said, it's amazing they got this game running on a 3DS because its one of the best looking and performing Wii games, period.
I LOVE XBC and I think it's a great 3DS game, but if visuals are super important to you - the game is cheaper to play off the WiiU GamePad from the eShop. It's only $20 there if you already own a WiiU. But I think having it portable, bad visuals and all, is worth the price of the 3DS version. Anyway you can play XBC, you can't lose. My favorite JRPG of al time.
I never understood the complaint of the 3D is not as if someone is forceing you to play in 3D mode just turn the damn slider mode if you want to play in 2D.
The option is there for people that like 3D and those that don't.
New 3ds is still the best option, this a more cheaper to produce model like micro gba.
The option is there for people that like 3D and those that don't.
New 3ds is still the best option, this a more cheaper to produce model like micro gba.
Reallink
Member
New 3DS XL is 2 and a 1/2 years old and has retailed for $199 ($175 on sales) that whole span. $149 should by all accounts be a permanent price drop on the N3DS XL by now. The sheer stupidity in these reviews astounds, applauding a whopping $25 - $50 savings for a downgraded product 2.5 years late, with the same same dog shit displays that are bettered by $20 Chinese tablets.
Polioliolio
Member
Indeed. I'm waiting for the right price and game selection.
Hoping for a black friday deal or something, because I'm eager to start playing ARMS and Mario Kart.
My quick review: nothing mindblowing but very light and more comfortable to hold because there's more space to put your fingers on the shoulders since the hinges are now on the outside.
The stylus is short, but the buttons and finishing touches feel pretty good. Personally, I wouldn't give up the 3D, but this is a nice budget alternative.
The stylus is short, but the buttons and finishing touches feel pretty good. Personally, I wouldn't give up the 3D, but this is a nice budget alternative.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
Wow, are they really that hard to find? I sort of wanted to pick up a mint one before the system is dead since it's my favorite handheld. *sigh* ~NOA~
dickroach
Member
I still see the n3DSXL in Best Buys and Targets. real limited quantity, but still.
I haven't seen the regular n3DSs in like a year.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
Wait... Did Nintendo just all the sudden get good at designing hardware? From the Wii era to present I've found their designs fairly lackluster, while the Switch and this 2DXL look much more refined than what I am used to seeing from them.
BossDarkseid
Member
Quite tempted to get one.
Have a decent amount of 3DS titles I'd still like to play and the Metroid Game, maybe Ultra Sun/Moon and the Radiant Historia "remake"/Strange Journey "remake" would be really fun.
Have a decent amount of 3DS titles I'd still like to play and the Metroid Game, maybe Ultra Sun/Moon and the Radiant Historia "remake"/Strange Journey "remake" would be really fun.
Too many 3DS games I didn't even knew existed still need to be played by me though.
He uses Toad in Mario Kart...I don't know I how I feel about this.
Because;
-The 3DS has a bigger install base than the Switch,
-The 3DS is cheaper than the Switch thus easier to push parents to buy them,
-The 3DS has 8 main series Pokémon games plus 5 on the virtual console, the Switch however doesn't have one yet.
-Despite the Switch able to be used as a handheld, it's much easier to throw the 3DS in the bag than the Switch.
Maintenance
Member
I'm in if I can find one here. Shame they don't have any solid colors, I hate mixing. It looks trashy.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
I really dispise people shitting all over the 3D at every opportunity. It's a great feature on the N3DS and I'm going to miss it going forward. Go buy a Switch and stfu.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
b00_thegh0st
Member
I've bought every 3DS model. On each of them, including the "new" series, I experienced 3D crosstalk ("ghosting") that distracted me from the actual look & gameplay of what I was playing. I've adored the (3)DS library and that new 2D XL one will be the one I'll keep. Technology just wasn't there for flawless glasses-free 3D (at that price anyway).
Looks like this is a good option for people who are late to the 3DS party and want to jump in at the lowest price. I'll stick with my N3DS though.
I ditched the XL because I got unbearable hand craps playing platformers or anything action-heavy. N3DS is better for this but still not perfect. I started looking into grips for my regular N3DS and weirdly enough the best looking one (Cyber) isn't available anywhere for cheap.
This one looks a bit crappy/cheap but gets some good reviews.
I ditched the XL because I got unbearable hand craps playing platformers or anything action-heavy. N3DS is better for this but still not perfect. I started looking into grips for my regular N3DS and weirdly enough the best looking one (Cyber) isn't available anywhere for cheap.
This one looks a bit crappy/cheap but gets some good reviews.
Magicpaint
Member
I'll probably get this as a supplementary piece because I really love the design, but as long as 3D is enabled in any game, I'll stick to my 3DS XL.
LizardKing
Member
Absolutely this. Everybody is calling this N2DSXL cheap but in my mind it should replace the $99 2DS at that price while the N3DSXL is dropped to $150 to end the 3DS lifespan. We're at that point where even the Wii and just about every other hardware was $99 at this point. I don't think it's too much to ask for the 3DS to be at $150, with a feature stripped budgeted model to be at the end of life hardware price of $99. Hell even that would be a price hike for end of life N3DSXL, but pretty understandable considering inflation.
My honest first thought when they said $150 is damn that's kinda high. Not really what you want in the budget line. I was shocked when people started to say that was cheap.
Man I'm really torn on this. I currently own a n3DS XL, but really like the aesthetic of this new 2DS XL. I like that it weighs less, never cared much for 3D, and don't use system speakers so some of these negatives don't apply to me...
Anyone "upgrading" from a n3DS XL to this?
Anyone "upgrading" from a n3DS XL to this?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Then we would have had an even better iteration now.
show me your skeleton
Member
i love the look of this but man, wish they improved the battery life.
Ew, I'd advise against it
It's always weird reading these reviews since the original 3DS. The hardware is crap, even with the little adjustments it is stays bad but nevertheless the reviews are giving the 3DS line a thumb up. It's nice to have this flip now for the cartridge but the TN/IPS lottery is a neck breaker.
And the price is ridiculous. Sorry but the cheapest smartphone is better then the 2DS and not just recently but for quiet some time now, this should be 75 Dollar, 99 Dollar at most. It's clear as day Nintendo wants to have the N3DS price still at nearly 200 bucks. I was lucky to get an N3DS XL in some special sale with an IPS panel on top, so I can sell now my old 3DS XL but this handheld line on the regular market is a rip off.
The reviews should be a lot harsher, from the beginning.
@Mr-Joker
The arguments are pretty awful. Every generation has an end and the 3DS is at it's end as is visible in the sales, that are a lot worse then they were with the NDS back then. Nintendos reasons are mostly emotional, not rational. Japanese companies shun the competition of the global market and it's rules, they produce a hybrid but since the Wii U flopped they don't know if they can truly focus on one platform only, so they stick to the 3DS and since the sales are declining, they produce another iteration to boost sales and to hold the old price, so the profit margin stays as big as possible or is increasing. Also Nintendo is feeling safe at the moment, because there is no real competition even though there is the Vita but everything is settled and Sony doesn't make any move, so no problem there.
The install base sounds good but as said above, every old hardware has a (way) higher install base, so that's usual. The price is an argument but it has nothing to do with parents but people in general. The idea that Handhelds would be mainly for children is rather strange. As if 60-70 million handheld owners with dozens of games each would be children. Pokèmon as a brand is a good argument but not old games. They are already released, it's not like you need to hold a platform alive for games you already released and sold. And regarding the mobility: Let's be honest, we are living in a time of netbooks and tablets. And people don't have an issue throwing them in their bags.
And the price is ridiculous. Sorry but the cheapest smartphone is better then the 2DS and not just recently but for quiet some time now, this should be 75 Dollar, 99 Dollar at most. It's clear as day Nintendo wants to have the N3DS price still at nearly 200 bucks. I was lucky to get an N3DS XL in some special sale with an IPS panel on top, so I can sell now my old 3DS XL but this handheld line on the regular market is a rip off.
The reviews should be a lot harsher, from the beginning.
@Mr-Joker
The arguments are pretty awful. Every generation has an end and the 3DS is at it's end as is visible in the sales, that are a lot worse then they were with the NDS back then. Nintendos reasons are mostly emotional, not rational. Japanese companies shun the competition of the global market and it's rules, they produce a hybrid but since the Wii U flopped they don't know if they can truly focus on one platform only, so they stick to the 3DS and since the sales are declining, they produce another iteration to boost sales and to hold the old price, so the profit margin stays as big as possible or is increasing. Also Nintendo is feeling safe at the moment, because there is no real competition even though there is the Vita but everything is settled and Sony doesn't make any move, so no problem there.
The install base sounds good but as said above, every old hardware has a (way) higher install base, so that's usual. The price is an argument but it has nothing to do with parents but people in general. The idea that Handhelds would be mainly for children is rather strange. As if 60-70 million handheld owners with dozens of games each would be children. Pokèmon as a brand is a good argument but not old games. They are already released, it's not like you need to hold a platform alive for games you already released and sold. And regarding the mobility: Let's be honest, we are living in a time of netbooks and tablets. And people don't have an issue throwing them in their bags.
I'm really tempted to get this to replace my N3DS as I really do prefer the larger screen, but the N3DSXL is still cheap here in UK (about £110 used) so I'm not sure. It'll mainly be for playing through Xenoblade before 2 comes out, though.
Does look damn good, my favorite 3DS design for sure.
Does look damn good, my favorite 3DS design for sure.
jts
...hate me...
Then that one should have been released in 2011, smartass. Nice try.
Sorry Toni, I also never liked those "what we got now, we should've gotten years ago". It's not how it works, most of the time.