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First Spider-Man: Homecoming reactions
- Thread starter Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Paul Giamatti might have been the worst part of that movie.
I didn't know that they started shooting Bronson's biography already.
You know he WANTED that role?
Was Lizard one of the villains that Raimi wanted to do?
Syphon Filter
Member
dam this is horrible lol.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
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The two villains I heard tossed around most often for SM4 were The Lizard and Vulture.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's like the last page of Wanted but if Eminem's mom was a monitor lizard.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Raimi had allegedly wanted to use Lizard since Spider-Man 2.
A part of me is sad that this reality will never see Raimi's Spider-Man 4 come to fruition
That movie sounded like it was going to be something
PS2 money putting in work
Today, I will remind them
https://youtu.be/MLCfIGPY6i8
And then there's the whole thing of Uncle Ben dying because Peter was buying chocolate milk
And then his British voice slips in when he's crying for help
And then there's a montage when he's looking at dude's wrists
Like, why man
But I'd still probably place both ahead of Seppuku Squad, because the action at least looks real nice
That movie sounded like it was going to be something
PS2 money putting in work
This again describes something more like Transformers 5 or Suicide Squad, I just don't get how they could be considered "trash of the highest degree." And I'm not even trying to defend them. Even if I didn't like them I would still think some of these comments are outrageous.
Today, I will remind them
https://youtu.be/MLCfIGPY6i8
And then there's the whole thing of Uncle Ben dying because Peter was buying chocolate milk
And then his British voice slips in when he's crying for help
And then there's a montage when he's looking at dude's wrists
Like, why man
But I'd still probably place both ahead of Seppuku Squad, because the action at least looks real nice
THROW THE DAMN TOWEL!
Fuck I remember waiting so long to deliver on that, too.
Connors was dangled in front of us for so long.
Starfish Hero
Member
That makes sense, they basically took the Lizard's character and gave him metal tentacles
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Raimi teasing us with Lizard, then never getting to deliver. Just imagine how awesome Dylan Baker woulda been in the role.
Syphon Filter
Member
Dam Spiderman 4 was going to happen? How come it didn't?
MugiwaraCole
Member
EXACTLY. *screams internally*
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Is there more?
The pay off would have been pretty good since Peter already had a relationship with him. The Lizard didn't even have to be more than a force-of-nature monster since the audience already had built up a connection with the character as a regular human. It would have made it even more hard to believe Connors was the Lizard since he doesn't seem at all like a villain. It could have been a perfect opportunity for a mystery where Peter tries to find out who is the Lizard. General audiences would have been shocked while comic fans would have been waiting for the reveal, just like with Bucky being the Winter Soldier.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
From what I recall, the script never really came together and Sony didn't have a whole lot of confidence in the project (they announced Amazing Spider-Man the day after SM4 was canned).
The saddest thing about that is Raimi's top choice for Vulture was John Malkovich.
ForkNetwork
Banned
Did we see the same Spiderman 2?
The one with the train scene?
The 2nd best superhero movie?
Its ok if you dont like it
Sony had locked down a release date that Raimi didn't feel comfortable trying to hit, so they both called it off
There were some hilarious plot details floating around a while back, but I can't find them.
All I remember is Malkovich as Vulture, Anne Hathaway as Vultress (yes, really), and Peter would have a son.
Permanently A
Junior Member
ech, I don't want to see the lizard in MCU. it would just look unpleasing unless they went for the crocodile head look
Sibersk Esto
Banned
For Lizard? No.
But Black Cat concept art exists for SM2
Hell there's concept art for Doc Ock from Spider Man 1
MiloHoffman
Member
but Max just wanted to be Spiderman's friend sad thing he dies at the end = /
Isn't that the question of the day?
cr0w
Old Member
Raimi said that Vultress stuff was bullshit, Hathaway was gonna play Black Cat.
WrenchNinja
Member
Explains why Black Cat was in the Spider-Man 2 video game so much
MugiwaraCole
Member
Not sure doubting the MCU nailing the look makes a lick of sense.
No it doesn't.
She was in the game because Spider-Man movie games always add a ton of characters with nothing to do with the movies.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
WrenchNinja
Member
Not like this they aren't, Black Cat was weirdly in the game a lot and tied into the story and themes of Spider-Man 2. It wasnt like Shocker in the first game who showed up a couple of times just to be someone to fight. I would think Treyarch was influenced by some of this early stuff since they had to have worked with some of the film production to get the game released on time to coincide with the movie.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Hot take: Why are you here?
I like how this post basically admits the "superhero movies will burst!" hot take is finally dead and buried.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
Before the accident, yep.
The scene with his electrocution and electric eel bites has a shot of his teeth getting forcibly re-aligned. Because that's what electrocution and electric eel bites do.
Also, one of those eels jumps into his body via mouth entry, apparently.
As for the hair, guess all that got burned off.
Thankfully he got some sick dubstep powers.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Yeah. Exactly like that. Honestly, I doubt it had much to do with whatever was going on with the movie. They tend to just throw some of his best rogues in the movie tie-ins.
Never really get this line of thinking. They're just action movies based on comic material. Should action movies have fallen out of taste by now? Should romantic comedies? We get like 5 a year on average these days, vs however many total movies release in the same timeframe.
And "should" implies the movies aren't still, you know, printing money at historical box office rates. You'd have to be an idiot to seriously walk into a movie studio and suggest they stop making them right now lmao.
WrenchNinja
Member
Shocker and Vulture's appearance's in the first game are largely irrelevant to the main story, as are Mysterio and Rhino in the sequel. Black Cat was tied to Peter's growing divide between his normal life and hero life and how he was losing grips with both.
Like take for example their final scene: https://youtu.be/YWGUuGaV1uM
Anyway, this isn't really the place to talk about this. So agree to disagree.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I did that with Amazing Spider-Man 2 and still walked away disappointed.
I did that with Batman v Superman too. In fact, I went in expecting a festering pile of shit. I still walked out disappointed and angry at just how horrible it was.
My expectations for both of those were buried a few inches below the surface. I didn't bury the expectations deep enough. Burying my expectations just outside of hell could not have prepared me for BvS.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Carnage and Wilson Fisk were important plot characters in the ASM2 game. Wilson Fisk didn't even exist in the same movie universe as Spidey at that time lmao. It do not matter.