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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs

HardRojo

Member
Gotta practice how to punish Ed's super lol, I baited it and when the time to punish came, I did fuck all but punish it properly lol.
 
I just don't understand, I've lost a bunch of matches in a row. And several of them were due to the fact that I can't seem to throw a fireball. Instead I keep doing DP's. Yes these are happening after I walk forward, but I'm doing half circles to try and remedy the problem but a DP still comes out some times. When I do the motion slowly I have a better fireball rate, but it still happens. I don't remember being this bad at doing it last year or during USF4. But it's been a huge problem for me lately the few times I've played this year.

I played one match against a Urien in which I looked like a complete moron just rotating fireballs and DP's. I stopped trying to win and just kept doing my motion to see which one would come out and he just waited and punished when I DP'd because he knew something was wrong to. But he probably assumed I meant to play like an idiot.
 

remz

Member
I just don't understand, I've lost a bunch of matches in a row. And several of them were due to the fact that I can't seem to throw a fireball. Instead I keep doing DP's. Yes these are happening after I walk forward, but I'm doing half circles to try and remedy the problem but a DP still comes out some times. When I do the motion slowly I have a better fireball rate, but it still happens. I don't remember being this bad at doing it last year or during USF4. But it's been a huge problem for me lately the few times I've played this year.

I played one match against a Urien in which I looked like a complete moron just rotating fireballs and DP's. I stopped trying to win and just kept doing my motion to see which one would come out and he just waited and punished when I DP'd because he knew something was wrong to. But he probably assumed I meant to play like an idiot.
My only advice is to just grind it out and try and do the input clean. I have the opposite problem in t7 with Eliza (fireballs instead of dp) and the only way I fix it is doing a bunch in training mode pregame
 
I take it you guys haven't seen DrDannyPham before now?

I follow him on Twitch all the time to try to spy his Gief tech. He's SUPER underrated and arguably right there with Ita and Stupendous (not quite at SnakeEyez tho).

I'm still pretty casual following the comps but I know a few guys. But yeah this is the first time seeing Danny and his Zangief played so damned crazy. Dude is a monster
 

jett

D-Member
Played some ranked matches to get that 5k(I got it after only five wins for some reason...). Seems I'm eternally about dat super bronze/ultrabronze/super bronze/ultrabronze/super bronze/ultrabronze/ life.

So what is the fucking point of v-reversals if people are just going to to throw me out of them. Happened every single time I tried one out.
 

Sayad

Member
So what is the fucking point of v-reversals if people are just going to to throw me out of them. Happened every single time I tried one out.

Don't be predictable with it, and save them for V-Reversaling H or M attacks only. If you get thrown every time, you're probably trying to V-Reversal teck-throw setups.
 

jett

D-Member
YAS FLUX

I always enjoy seeing a good Mika. How come I can't play like this. :| At least I've learned some new setups for the drop kick.

Don't be predictable with it, and save them for V-Reversaling H or M attacks only. If you get thrown every time, you're probably trying to V-Reversal teck-throw setups.

Aight thanks.
 
My only advice is to just grind it out and try and do the input clean. I have the opposite problem in t7 with Eliza (fireballs instead of dp) and the only way I fix it is doing a bunch in training mode pregame

I'm improving, but I'm still terrified of throwing a fireball. A regular ass fireball. One fuck up is a crush counter combo for my opponent into 50/50 city. I posted this match for anybody here to see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwnQ1f92kiU

To get to the point, check the DP at the 19 second mark and at the 22 second mark. Another thing in case anybody is wondering, I'm doing my inputs slowly to try and fix this because it kept happening when I would do faster motions.

Some of it is due to negative edge because of walking forward, but others have no forward input before I do the QCF motion. I'm so scared that I've been trying to throw fireballs from a down back charge or doing full half circle motions. Despite that it still happens. I get that my inputs aren't that good. I don't hit the punch button until after completing the motion or somehow doing an extra forward motion at the end. But I don't understand how that still creates a DP from just a QCF motion.

In the end I feel pretty demoralized. I wish I could boot myself back into the Silver class and work my way back up again because I'm so ass right now.
 

mbpm1

Member
Sorry, Flux, I had to root for East Coast and NLBC

good stuff though. I was surprised at the neutral jump at that second to last round though
 
I'm improving, but I'm still terrified of throwing a fireball. A regular ass fireball. One fuck up is a crush counter combo for my opponent into 50/50 city. I posted this match for anybody here to see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwnQ1f92kiU

To get to the point, check the DP at the 19 second mark and at the 22 second mark. Another thing in case anybody is wondering, I'm doing my inputs slowly to try and fix this because it kept happening when I would do faster motions.

Nah you're not doing the right input, at 19 seconds you literally input: down, down forward, down, down forward, forward, punch.
The shortcut for srk is down forward x2, which is what you input.
And then at 22 seconds you do the exact same thing.
 
I'm improving, but I'm still terrified of throwing a fireball. A regular ass fireball. One fuck up is a crush counter combo for my opponent into 50/50 city. I posted this match for anybody here to see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwnQ1f92kiU

To get to the point, check the DP at the 19 second mark and at the 22 second mark. Another thing in case anybody is wondering, I'm doing my inputs slowly to try and fix this because it kept happening when I would do faster motions.

Some of it is due to negative edge because of walking forward, but others have no forward input before I do the QCF motion. I'm so scared that I've been trying to throw fireballs from a down back charge or doing full half circle motions. Despite that it still happens. I get that my inputs aren't that good. I don't hit the punch button until after completing the motion or somehow doing an extra forward motion at the end. But I don't understand how that still creates a DP from just a QCF motion.

In the end I feel pretty demoralized. I wish I could boot myself back into the Silver class and work my way back up again because I'm so ass right now.
Wait, all of those DPs are attempts at fireballs? rofl You're a SFIV vet, so how is this happening?

In any game where I am afraid of getting a DP instead of a fireball, I just do a HCF motion instead of QCF motion to erase the input buffer.
 
Nah you're not doing the right input, at 19 seconds you literally input: down, down forward, down, down forward, forward, punch.
The shortcut for srk is down forward x2, which is what you input.
And then at 22 seconds you do the exact same thing.

Damn, you're right. I didn't see that before when I looked over it quickly . I now see that I'm somehow constantly doing that over and over. I don't understand how though. As far as I can tell, all I'm doing is a QCF motion. I've only been playing the game a few times every month or two since September last year. Somehow the long layoff has caused me to develop this, whatever the hell it is because I didn't have this issue before.

Wait, all of those DPs are attempts at fireballs? rofl You're a SFIV vet, so how is this happening?

In any game where I am afraid of getting a DP instead of a fireball, I just do a HCF motion instead of QCF motion to erase the input buffer.

I have no excuse, been playing SF4 on stick for 6 years and then SFV the past year. The accidental DP from a fireball happens to me like it has to every shoto player, but it's never been anywhere near that bad. Like I just said though I've somehow developed this during these long layoffs that I've taken. I'll complete the D, DF, F motion and then somehow do a DF, F before hitting punch. I have no idea how I developed this habit but I need to just spend some time doing nothing but constantly throwing fireballs to rid myself of it.
 

Sayad

Member
Can't you end qcf motion with u+f while doing a fireball to not get a DP even if you were walking forward like in KoF?!
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Haha, thanks for rooting for me. Interesting event, to say the least.

Sorry, Flux, I had to root for East Coast and NLBC

good stuff though. I was surprised at the neutral jump at that second to last round though

"Philadelphia" is on a roll that everyone in the East Group wants to stop. I could have gotten JB if I didn't go for some really dumb command grabs (and if I hadn't cracked and just done the WA in the combo to make it 1-1). Toronto came really close, too, but they couldn't clutch it out.
 
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